pl00peh91 Posted August 13, 2022 Report Share Posted August 13, 2022 (edited) The key to our poor start so far has been a significant drop off in performance levels in the second half, it’s been a consistent theme so far in all three of our league games. Just wondered what your views are on why we can’t play our game for 90 minutes, is it lack of fitness, lack of ability or something else? We do seem to play a fairly high tempo passing style in the first half so maybe we just can’t keep that intensity for a whole game, but the sheer scale of the drop off in each game has been alarming, to say the least. Edited August 13, 2022 by pl00peh91 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rossi the Robin Posted August 13, 2022 Report Share Posted August 13, 2022 And the second half of the first half Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snufflelufagus Posted August 13, 2022 Report Share Posted August 13, 2022 Fitness? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RudiRed Posted August 13, 2022 Report Share Posted August 13, 2022 We haven't played for spells in the first half. Other than the first 20 against Hull we were very average. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BcFcOneLove Posted August 13, 2022 Report Share Posted August 13, 2022 6 minutes ago, Rossi the Robin said: And the second half of the first half Not sure because the last 15 minutes of the first half against Sunderland, we were dominating... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledAjax Posted August 13, 2022 Report Share Posted August 13, 2022 We seem to be pretty rigid, and not very adaptable. Essentially we've recruited for an attacking and passing 352, and we've played that in pre-season. That's what we do. We're able enough to put it to good effect in the first 30 minutes or so of a game. Then the opposition figure us out, we lose out on a few refereeing decisions, miss a few chances, take a few tough tackles. Whatever it might be, we get shaken up and lose that ability to execute our plan. And that's it. That's the plan. We don't change it up, and we don't adapt to nullify whatever it is that's shaken us. We're still playing well at times, but the inability to put Plan B into play is hurting us. 6 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red DNA Posted August 13, 2022 Report Share Posted August 13, 2022 2 minutes ago, ExiledAjax said: Then the opposition figure us out, … … …… but the inability to put Plan B into play is hurting us. Exactly that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numero Uno Posted August 13, 2022 Report Share Posted August 13, 2022 13 minutes ago, Snufflelufagus said: Fitness? No, quality. The more you lose possession of the ball the more running you have to do to get the bastard back. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ray savino Posted August 13, 2022 Report Share Posted August 13, 2022 Fear? I think we lack a midfield destroyer, fighter, calm downer, bloody leader. Guess what we haven’t had that character for years. Our midfield seem to invite pressure. Yes we make crap mistakes in defence but it’s always inevitable as our midfield drop so deep so almost inevitable so many balls into our box we’re going to concede. We have no real outlet up front without AS in the team. So when we aimlessly panic and hoof the ball anywhere upfield we just lose possession as there’s no one to press the opposition effectively, physically unless AS plays. We need a solid organising midfielder, and a fast, pressing physical forward to fill in for when AS doesn’t play. Or we play 2 upfront and add an extra body for protection in midfield. We just get overrun in the second half. I think big efforts from Mr Lansdown to get in that investment. He was right about one thing that’s for certain - we need some fresh ideas and enthusiasm invested in our club as well as money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Posted August 13, 2022 Report Share Posted August 13, 2022 It can only be one of two things : 1) Fitness. Mr Rennie has been much lauded but has he got this squad as fit as possible? Don’t know. 2) Half time adjustments. Other managers react and slightly alter their tactics or strategies. Perhaps Mr Pearson doesn’t react? Don’t know. Could be either, could be both, could be none. But whatever it is, it’s not looking pretty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AppyDAZE Posted August 13, 2022 Report Share Posted August 13, 2022 Could be worse. Man United can't play in either :laugh: :laugh: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lack of Action Man Posted August 13, 2022 Report Share Posted August 13, 2022 41 minutes ago, ExiledAjax said: We seem to be pretty rigid, and not very adaptable. Essentially we've recruited for an attacking and passing 352, and we've played that in pre-season. That's what we do. We're able enough to put it to good effect in the first 30 minutes or so of a game. Then the opposition figure us out, we lose out on a few refereeing decisions, miss a few chances, take a few tough tackles. Whatever it might be, we get shaken up and lose that ability to execute our plan. And that's it. That's the plan. We don't change it up, and we don't adapt to nullify whatever it is that's shaken us. We're still playing well at times, but the inability to put Plan B into play is hurting us. Can’t disagree with any of this. Good assessment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledAjax Posted August 13, 2022 Report Share Posted August 13, 2022 43 minutes ago, Red DNA said: Exactly that. No, I don't think it is that simple. I don't think Wigan really figured us out today. Today I thought we got frustrated with the ref, and with Wigans hard tackles. I think the Bennett lash out being a yellow not a red really got into our heads. We lost the precision, began overthinking, and Wigan grew into it. Sunderland figured us out, changed their game, got the goals they needed, and then reverted to type. From what I've seen there have been different reasons for our mid/late game failures. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted August 13, 2022 Report Share Posted August 13, 2022 We spent 15 minutes at the start of the second half, controlling possession, making them chase us…albeit we didn’t do much with it. So you can’t just say “we didn’t play second half” because we tried to take the sting out of any immediate onslaught they might’ve tried….and we did. Game looked life drifting, but that little passage of play, Atkinson yellow, then injured, subbed etc seemed to shift the balance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numero Uno Posted August 13, 2022 Report Share Posted August 13, 2022 9 minutes ago, Davefevs said: We spent 15 minutes at the start of the second half, controlling possession, making them chase us…albeit we didn’t do much with it. So you can’t just say “we didn’t play second half” because we tried to take the sting out of any immediate onslaught they might’ve tried….and we did. Game looked life drifting, but that little passage of play, Atkinson yellow, then injured, subbed etc seemed to shift the balance. Even allowing for that the keeper shouldn’t be punching fresh air at an in swinging corner Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveybadger Posted August 13, 2022 Report Share Posted August 13, 2022 Antoine Semenyo. Having him as an out is such a big thing. Not saying it’s just him but it’s a big part. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledAjax Posted August 13, 2022 Report Share Posted August 13, 2022 35 minutes ago, Davefevs said: Game looked life drifting, but that little passage of play, Atkinson yellow, then injured, subbed etc seemed to shift the balance. Is it concerning that we don't seem to able to absorb something like that? If all it takes for us to be shocked out of a good performance is an injury then should that be looked at? If it is concerning then should we a) be surprised and b) worried for the long term? I've asked three questions there and for me the answers are yes, no, and no. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted August 13, 2022 Report Share Posted August 13, 2022 13 minutes ago, ExiledAjax said: Is it concerning that we don't seem to able to absorb something like that? If all it takes for us to be shocked out of a good performance is an injury then should that be looked at? If it is concerning then should we a) be surprised and b) worried for the long term? I've asked three questions there and for me the answers are yes, no, and no. We should be able to, but you could argue at least this week we stayed on it to get a point. Small positives. I guess I’m quoting correlation not causation too! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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