Red Skin Posted October 30, 2022 Report Share Posted October 30, 2022 Booing Graham Potter. Really? This bloke got you playing decent football, established you as a solid top flight team, brought in a shed load of money from player sales. I know we all love our team, but why would you begrudge him going on to further his career at a bigger club? It's not as if he came through their own backroom coaches hierarchy is it? They nicked it from Swansea FFS. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chinapig Posted October 30, 2022 Report Share Posted October 30, 2022 I've had some fun debating this with Brighton fans, who keep changing their tune. The main arguments: 1. He sold his soul. But I ask, did he sell his soul when he left Swansea? 2. That doesn't count because he made his reputation at Brighton. No I say he did that with the amazing job he did at Ostersunds. Why didn't Brighton snap him up from there? 3. But he left Swansea in the close season so that doesn't count. He left Brighton after 6 games of this season, which is different. No it isn't, managers don't control when job offers come up. And if you want a transfer window for managers you won't be able to sack a manager however bad the results are until the window opens. 4. Actually it's not really about Potter, Chelsea have taken his support staff, which isn't fair. In most cases support staff follow managers around. Why should this be different for Potter? 5. Yes but they have poached our players too. One actually, to the tune of £65m. Doesn't seem to have weakened them at all. If that's poaching Brighton are welcome to poach one of our young players for that much. 6. We are a well run club and Chelsea aren't. Bit of a false equivalence but Brighton are indeed well run so why not trust them to manage the transition? They've already recruited a very good manager after all because their planning is so good. As I say, great fun debating with fans who instead of celebrating a great win were still consumed with anger. It's only a game people! 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winterstoke toad Posted October 30, 2022 Report Share Posted October 30, 2022 Fair play to them nothing wrong with booing someone who was employed by your club then left because they got a better opportunity, we do it here at city every other game . 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarcusX Posted October 30, 2022 Report Share Posted October 30, 2022 5 minutes ago, Winterstoke toad said: Fair play to them nothing wrong with booing someone who was employed by your club then left because they got a better opportunity, we do it here at city every other game . No we don’t. I can’t think of any players we’ve boo’ed who has simply gone on to a bigger club with no other factors. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
italian dave Posted October 30, 2022 Report Share Posted October 30, 2022 11 minutes ago, Winterstoke toad said: Fair play to them nothing wrong with booing someone who was employed by your club then left because they got a better opportunity, we do it here at city every other game . Except when they’re about to take a corner that leads to a goal against us 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winterstoke toad Posted October 30, 2022 Report Share Posted October 30, 2022 25 minutes ago, MarcusX said: No we don’t. I can’t think of any players we’ve boo’ed who has simply gone on to a bigger club with no other factors. Joe Bryan got boo’ed a lot when we played Fulham in the cup . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCFCGav Posted October 30, 2022 Report Share Posted October 30, 2022 I probably wouldn’t have booed but no issue with it. The question I always ask is, what did they win/help win while at the club. Potter established them as a prem club and traded well and that’s very good, but didn’t win them anything (was it Hughton who won the Championship with them?). Cotts won us two trophies and is therefore immortal in my eyes. LJ did a grand job of establishing us and play-off pushing but never truly achieved anything - like Potter. So if LJ rocked up with a new team, I wouldn’t judge if people booed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Geoff Posted October 30, 2022 Report Share Posted October 30, 2022 1 hour ago, chinapig said: I've had some fun debating this with Brighton fans, who keep changing their tune. The main arguments: 1. He sold his soul. But I ask, did he sell his soul when he left Swansea? 2. That doesn't count because he made his reputation at Brighton. No I say he did that with the amazing job he did at Ostersunds. Why didn't Brighton snap him up from there? 3. But he left Swansea in the close season so that doesn't count. He left Brighton after 6 games of this season, which is different. No it isn't, managers don't control when job offers come up. And if you want a transfer window for managers you won't be able to sack a manager however bad the results are until the window opens. 4. Actually it's not really about Potter, Chelsea have taken his support staff, which isn't fair. In most cases support staff follow managers around. Why should this be different for Potter? 5. Yes but they have poached our players too. One actually, to the tune of £65m. Doesn't seem to have weakened them at all. If that's poaching Brighton are welcome to poach one of our young players for that much. 6. We are a well run club and Chelsea aren't. Bit of a false equivalence but Brighton are indeed well run so why not trust them to manage the transition? They've already recruited a very good manager after all because their planning is so good. As I say, great fun debating with fans who instead of celebrating a great win were still consumed with anger. It's only a game people! And the same coaching staff they nicked from Swansea together with the analyst. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin phantom Posted October 30, 2022 Admin Report Share Posted October 30, 2022 1 hour ago, Red Skin said: Booing Graham Potter. Really? This bloke got you playing decent football, established you as a solid top flight team, brought in a shed load of money from player sales. I know we all love our team, but why would you begrudge him going on to further his career at a bigger club? It's not as if he came through their own backroom coaches hierarchy is it? They nicked it from Swansea FFS. He's ex Brighton No reason to support anything no longer connected to the club 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red-Robbo Posted October 30, 2022 Report Share Posted October 30, 2022 1 minute ago, phantom said: He's ex Brighton No reason to support anything no longer connected to the club True, but - personally - I never understand booing ex-players or managers unless they A) Messed us about/Left under contentious circumstances B) Slagged the club/city/supporters/accent off after leaving or C) Play for the Gas. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted October 30, 2022 Report Share Posted October 30, 2022 1 hour ago, MarcusX said: No we don’t. I can’t think of any players we’ve boo’ed who has simply gone on to a bigger club with no other factors. Kodjia? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
basshead Posted October 30, 2022 Report Share Posted October 30, 2022 1 hour ago, Winterstoke toad said: Joe Bryan got boo’ed a lot when we played Fulham in the cup . Yea Joe Bryan and Reid get dogs abuse and paterson one good game in seven gets applauded 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Skin Posted October 30, 2022 Author Report Share Posted October 30, 2022 2 hours ago, chinapig said: One actually, to the tune of £65m. Doesn't seem to have weakened them at all. If that's poaching Brighton are welcome to poach one of our young players for that much. He went there before Potter arrived didn't he? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chinapig Posted October 30, 2022 Report Share Posted October 30, 2022 Just now, Red Skin said: He went there before Potter arrived didn't he? Yes but that doesn't seem to have registered with their fans. As I say they called it poaching. I call it a lucrative transfer that is benefiting Brighton more than Chelsea. Chelsea fans are not impressed! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winterstoke toad Posted October 30, 2022 Report Share Posted October 30, 2022 26 minutes ago, basshead said: Yea Joe Bryan and Reid get dogs abuse and paterson one good game in seven gets applauded Patterson got boo’ed Not surprised about Reid he left after one good season to our local rivals I don’t think there’s a club out there who wouldn’t boo him . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Shadow Posted October 30, 2022 Report Share Posted October 30, 2022 17 minutes ago, Winterstoke toad said: Patterson got boo’ed Not surprised about Reid he left after one good season to our local rivals I don’t think there’s a club out there who wouldn’t boo him . Can't remember him playing for Rovers. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winterstoke toad Posted October 30, 2022 Report Share Posted October 30, 2022 18 minutes ago, Red Shadow said: Can't remember him playing for Rovers. Rovers haven’t been proper rivals for years tbh . In mine and my mates lifetimes we can only remember playing them in the jpt 2-1 game . Until we start playing each other again Cardiff are our derby games , even Swindon have given us a derby in recent years . 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Monaghan Posted October 30, 2022 Report Share Posted October 30, 2022 2 hours ago, MarcusX said: No we don’t. I can’t think of any players we’ve boo’ed who has simply gone on to a bigger club with no other factors. Maynard? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laner Posted October 30, 2022 Report Share Posted October 30, 2022 41 minutes ago, Winterstoke toad said: Patterson got boo’ed And then applauded our fans when he went to take a corner. Our fans simply applauded back. Very respectful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
italian dave Posted October 30, 2022 Report Share Posted October 30, 2022 15 minutes ago, Ghost Rider said: Maynard? I think the “other factors” was probably mentioned with him in mind Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Shadow Posted October 30, 2022 Report Share Posted October 30, 2022 18 minutes ago, Winterstoke toad said: Rovers haven’t been proper rivals for years tbh . In mine and my mates lifetimes we can only remember playing them in the jpt 2-1 game . Until we start playing each other again Cardiff are our derby games , even Swindon have given us a derby in recent years . Maybe it's an age thing. I couldn't give a flying **** how Cardiff are doing. As far as I'm concerned having watched City since 1967-68 and been at school with and worked with their lot, especially through the 1980's, and endured the 1990 title debacle, my feelings for Cardiff don't come anywhere close to how I absolutely despise the cesspit dwelling gaseous parasites. Their result is the only one I look for after ours. I want them relegated to non league asap, or to cease to exist. 4 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarcusX Posted October 30, 2022 Report Share Posted October 30, 2022 55 minutes ago, Ghost Rider said: Maynard? As I said “simply leaving for a better team” He was boo’d because of the comments about his kids accents wasn’t he? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted October 30, 2022 Report Share Posted October 30, 2022 1 hour ago, Winterstoke toad said: Rovers haven’t been proper rivals for years tbh . In mine and my mates lifetimes we can only remember playing them in the jpt 2-1 game . Until we start playing each other again Cardiff are our derby games , even Swindon have given us a derby in recent years . Cardiff will never be our main rivals. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarcusX Posted October 30, 2022 Report Share Posted October 30, 2022 2 hours ago, Super said: Kodjia? Kodjia refused to play, some may disagree with that as a valid reason though 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wanderingred Posted October 31, 2022 Report Share Posted October 31, 2022 Apart from a small hardcore of old timers, they are mostly a new fanbase that have known nothing but success in their shiny new stadium. Doesn’t surprise me in the slightest that they do things like this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aa_bcfc Posted October 31, 2022 Report Share Posted October 31, 2022 15 hours ago, Winterstoke toad said: Rovers haven’t been proper rivals for years tbh . In mine and my mates lifetimes we can only remember playing them in the jpt 2-1 game . Until we start playing each other again Cardiff are our derby games , even Swindon have given us a derby in recent years . There is only one derby mate and it’s not Cardiff, Swansea or Swindon. I suppose those teams could be classified as rivals. We haven’t had a Bristol derby for years and I’m happy for it to stay that way. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aa_bcfc Posted October 31, 2022 Report Share Posted October 31, 2022 15 hours ago, Red Shadow said: Maybe it's an age thing. I couldn't give a flying **** how Cardiff are doing. As far as I'm concerned having watched City since 1967-68 and been at school with and worked with their lot, especially through the 1980's, and endured the 1990 title debacle, my feelings for Cardiff don't come anywhere close to how I absolutely despise the cesspit dwelling gaseous parasites. Their result is the only one I look for after ours. I want them relegated to non league asap, or to cease to exist. Very well said. Pretty much my thoughts exactly having watched City since 1957 and am still to get over 1990. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted October 31, 2022 Report Share Posted October 31, 2022 (edited) He is a Brighton fan as well as football finance and an interesting take, think his support significantly predates their move to Amex but could be wrong. He maybe right, maybe wrong but it's not a take I've seen elsewhere. Edited October 31, 2022 by Mr Popodopolous Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clutton Caveman Posted October 31, 2022 Report Share Posted October 31, 2022 20 hours ago, Winterstoke toad said: Fair play to them nothing wrong with booing someone who was employed by your club then left because they got a better opportunity, we do it here at city every other game . From the team he picked and the way they played perhaps mentally he is still with Brighton Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chinapig Posted October 31, 2022 Report Share Posted October 31, 2022 1 hour ago, Mr Popodopolous said: He is a Brighton fan as well as football finance and an interesting take, think his support significantly predates their move to Amex but could be wrong. He maybe right, maybe wrong but it's not a take I've seen elsewhere. He is a lifelong fan I believe. Judging by the abuse Potter got and is getting I'm not sure what he says represents all Brighton fans though. After all, if the issue is Boehly and they have no problem with Potter why even boo him at all? Not one of Kieran's most objective comments then. Perhaps he should do a sentiment analysis of social media posts from Brighton fans to get a more accurate view? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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