Tomo Posted January 2, 2023 Report Share Posted January 2, 2023 Not sure how accurate these are but interesting that it states 15k per week for Nahki on his old contract.... https://www.capology.com/club/bristol/salaries/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vidal Posted January 2, 2023 Report Share Posted January 2, 2023 It’s absolute bollocks. 9 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Negan Posted January 2, 2023 Report Share Posted January 2, 2023 1 minute ago, Vidal said: It’s absolute bollocks. Probably isn’t too far from the truth tbf. Be surprised if Semenyo is happy to stay on that for another 18 months. Makes sense for him to either sign a 3 year deal or force a move away 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo Posted January 2, 2023 Author Report Share Posted January 2, 2023 Another source https://salarysport.com/football/sky-bet-championship/bristol-city/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vidal Posted January 2, 2023 Report Share Posted January 2, 2023 3 minutes ago, Negan said: Probably isn’t too far from the truth tbf. Be surprised if Semenyo is happy to stay on that for another 18 months. Makes sense for him to either sign a 3 year deal or force a move away It’s miles off for a number of players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cidercity1987 Posted January 2, 2023 Report Share Posted January 2, 2023 8 minutes ago, Tomo said: Another source https://salarysport.com/football/sky-bet-championship/bristol-city/ You might as well list your own guesses and they'll be no more or less accurate than the two you've posted I think this one is closer to the mark though 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottishRed Posted January 2, 2023 Report Share Posted January 2, 2023 According to this website Aden Fint is on £25k a week at Stoke 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Port Said Red Posted January 2, 2023 Report Share Posted January 2, 2023 20 minutes ago, Tomo said: Not sure how accurate these are but interesting that it states 15k per week for Nahki on his old contract.... https://www.capology.com/club/bristol/salaries/ So Ayman Benarous is on more than double Semenyo's wage and on more than Alex Scott. Seems reasonable. 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
And Its Smith Posted January 2, 2023 Report Share Posted January 2, 2023 Football Manager is probably a much closer estimate 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numero Uno Posted January 2, 2023 Report Share Posted January 2, 2023 Why do people give this bollocks the time of day? Like the same people would be happy and wouldn't be screaming like a bastard and issuing a lawsuit to their Employer if their salary was published on some random website.............. IT'S A GUESS - every single time. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy082005 Posted January 2, 2023 Report Share Posted January 2, 2023 33 minutes ago, Vidal said: It’s absolute bollocks. There is no way Matty James is on £27k 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted January 2, 2023 Report Share Posted January 2, 2023 21 minutes ago, And Its Smith said: Football Manager is probably a much closer estimate I suspect football manager is the source of some of these! @Tomofirstly, salary info isn’t in the public domain, so anything these types of website list can’t be taken as being correct. Some might be a good estimate, because something was leaked at the time of signing, but most will be guesswork, educated guesswork in some cases…and some will be wildly out. But these sites are also not up to date. The same sites had Danny Simpson on £18k p.w. last season. Don’t forget a lot of contracts these days (and in the past too) will be based on a basic salary plus a series of add-ons, mainly appearance based, but not forgetting annual contract bonuses, or even increases based on targets hit. So, although we can all guess at wages, they are just that….guesses. Even Kasey Palmer who said in a court of law that he was on £110k p.m (not p.w) when at Chelsea, didn’t necessarily mean when he signed for us he was on that here. We may have offered him less, but 4 year deal sweetened it, or we paid him a signing in fee. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo Posted January 2, 2023 Author Report Share Posted January 2, 2023 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Davefevs said: I suspect football manager is the source of some of these! @Tomofirstly, salary info isn’t in the public domain, so anything these types of website list can’t be taken as being correct. Some might be a good estimate, because something was leaked at the time of signing, but most will be guesswork, educated guesswork in some cases…and some will be wildly out. But these sites are also not up to date. The same sites had Danny Simpson on £18k p.w. last season. Don’t forget a lot of contracts these days (and in the past too) will be based on a basic salary plus a series of add-ons, mainly appearance based, but not forgetting annual contract bonuses, or even increases based on targets hit. So, although we can all guess at wages, they are just that….guesses. Even Kasey Palmer who said in a court of law that he was on £110k p.m (not p.w) when at Chelsea, didn’t necessarily mean when he signed for us he was on that here. We may have offered him less, but 4 year deal sweetened it, or we paid him a signing in fee. Yep all guess work Fevs.... I wouldn't expect Naismith to be on 15k per week imho. He came from Luton. Possibly on 8k to 10k though.... Edited January 2, 2023 by Tomo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Isewater Posted January 2, 2023 Report Share Posted January 2, 2023 I don’t believe any of it but just watch people start to have a go at James for being overpaid and the club for underpaying Semenyo, Max etc . 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northern Red Posted January 2, 2023 Report Share Posted January 2, 2023 10 minutes ago, Major Isewater said: I don’t believe any of it but just watch people start to have a go at James for being overpaid and the club for underpaying Semenyo, Max etc . Exhibit A: 1 hour ago, Negan said: Probably isn’t too far from the truth tbf. Be surprised if Semenyo is happy to stay on that for another 18 months. Makes sense for him to either sign a 3 year deal or force a move away 2 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glynriley Posted January 2, 2023 Report Share Posted January 2, 2023 1 hour ago, Negan said: Probably isn’t too far from the truth tbf. Be surprised if Semenyo is happy to stay on that for another 18 months. Makes sense for him to either sign a 3 year deal or force a move away You reckon we signed Sykes on bigger wages than Dasilva…?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Posted January 2, 2023 Report Share Posted January 2, 2023 1 hour ago, Andy082005 said: There is no way Matty James is on £27k He was reportedly on over £30k pw at Leicester. Whilst we certainly won’t be paying him £27k pw, he will be one of the highest earners and definitely over £15k. He wouldn’t have come here for less than half the wage he was already on. 34 minutes ago, Tomo said: Yep all guess work Fevs.... I wouldn't expect Naismith to be on 15k per week imho. He came from Luton. Possibly on 8k to 10k though.... Don’t be so sure mate. As far as I understood it, and I was advised of this upon his signing, £15k is very close to the mark. Whilst Luton are not the highest payers, Naismith was in demand and as we know, Gould has said that we will still pay top 10 wages in free agency. I’d very confidently say that £15k pw is correct. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vidal Posted January 2, 2023 Report Share Posted January 2, 2023 7 minutes ago, Harry said: He was reportedly on over £30k pw at Leicester. Whilst we certainly won’t be paying him £27k pw, he will be one of the highest earners and definitely over £15k. He wouldn’t have come here for less than half the wage he was already on. Don’t be so sure mate. As far as I understood it, and I was advised of this upon his signing, £15k is very close to the mark. Whilst Luton are not the highest payers, Naismith was in demand and as we know, Gould has said that we will still pay top 10 wages in free agency. I’d very confidently say that £15k pw is correct. All guesswork. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Port Said Red Posted January 2, 2023 Report Share Posted January 2, 2023 39 minutes ago, Davefevs said: I suspect football manager is the source of some of these! @Tomofirstly, salary info isn’t in the public domain, so anything these types of website list can’t be taken as being correct. Some might be a good estimate, because something was leaked at the time of signing, but most will be guesswork, educated guesswork in some cases…and some will be wildly out. But these sites are also not up to date. The same sites had Danny Simpson on £18k p.w. last season. Don’t forget a lot of contracts these days (and in the past too) will be based on a basic salary plus a series of add-ons, mainly appearance based, but not forgetting annual contract bonuses, or even increases based on targets hit. So, although we can all guess at wages, they are just that….guesses. Even Kasey Palmer who said in a court of law that he was on £110k p.m (not p.w) when at Chelsea, didn’t necessarily mean when he signed for us he was on that here. We may have offered him less, but 4 year deal sweetened it, or we paid him a signing in fee. A few years back I had to train the Payroll team at Liverpool football club on the new software we installed. They were different to Chelsea and Manchester Utd in that the players payroll was in house, rather than through an agency like PWC. No figures were ever mentioned, but I was surprised by some of the "bonuses" player s would receive, like a loyalty bonus for staying for the 2nd year of a 3 year contract. Other things like a signing on fee being spread over the period of the contract on a quarterly, half year, or yearly basis, were interesting. As was the idea that they loved having options as to where to send the payslips because "players don't get their payslips, agents do!" 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Posted January 2, 2023 Report Share Posted January 2, 2023 11 minutes ago, Vidal said: All guesswork. Not in the case of Naismith it’s not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledAjax Posted January 2, 2023 Report Share Posted January 2, 2023 7 minutes ago, Port Said Red said: A few years back I had to train the Payroll team at Liverpool football club on the new software we installed. They were different to Chelsea and Manchester Utd in that the players payroll was in house, rather than through an agency like PWC. No figures were ever mentioned, but I was surprised by some of the "bonuses" player s would receive, like a loyalty bonus for staying for the 2nd year of a 3 year contract. Other things like a signing on fee being spread over the period of the contract on a quarterly, half year, or yearly basis, were interesting. As was the idea that they loved having options as to where to send the payslips because "players don't get their payslips, agents do!" Did you ever see a pay ratchet? A clause or something that says "if another player gets a wage rise or gets paid more than I do, then my pay goes up by X%, or matches it, or is reviewed etc". I've heard they do exist in some contracts, but suspect they're pretty unusual. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unan Posted January 2, 2023 Report Share Posted January 2, 2023 Remember a few years ago when an employee left a sheet of paper with all the players wages in a coffee shop in Clifton? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
And Its Smith Posted January 2, 2023 Report Share Posted January 2, 2023 1 hour ago, Davefevs said: I suspect football manager is the source of some of these! @Tomofirstly, salary info isn’t in the public domain, so anything these types of website list can’t be taken as being correct. Some might be a good estimate, because something was leaked at the time of signing, but most will be guesswork, educated guesswork in some cases…and some will be wildly out. But these sites are also not up to date. The same sites had Danny Simpson on £18k p.w. last season. Don’t forget a lot of contracts these days (and in the past too) will be based on a basic salary plus a series of add-ons, mainly appearance based, but not forgetting annual contract bonuses, or even increases based on targets hit. So, although we can all guess at wages, they are just that….guesses. Even Kasey Palmer who said in a court of law that he was on £110k p.m (not p.w) when at Chelsea, didn’t necessarily mean when he signed for us he was on that here. We may have offered him less, but 4 year deal sweetened it, or we paid him a signing in fee. I don’t think it is the source. If I look at wages on FM I very rarely think many seem ridiculous. I would say it’s pretty simple to guess close to accurate. Debate on Naismith above for example….no transfer fee will have a strong impact on wage/loyalty bonus. I don’t think transfer fee gets considered by everyone when trying to estimate wages. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
And Its Smith Posted January 2, 2023 Report Share Posted January 2, 2023 14 minutes ago, Port Said Red said: A few years back I had to train the Payroll team at Liverpool football club on the new software we installed. They were different to Chelsea and Manchester Utd in that the players payroll was in house, rather than through an agency like PWC. No figures were ever mentioned, but I was surprised by some of the "bonuses" player s would receive, like a loyalty bonus for staying for the 2nd year of a 3 year contract. Other things like a signing on fee being spread over the period of the contract on a quarterly, half year, or yearly basis, were interesting. As was the idea that they loved having options as to where to send the payslips because "players don't get their payslips, agents do!" I believe loyalty bonuses and signing on fees being spread over a contract are common practise across football nowadays Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Port Said Red Posted January 2, 2023 Report Share Posted January 2, 2023 17 minutes ago, ExiledAjax said: Did you ever see a pay ratchet? A clause or something that says "if another player gets a wage rise or gets paid more than I do, then my pay goes up by X%, or matches it, or is reviewed etc". I've heard they do exist in some contracts, but suspect they're pretty unusual. I think that could only possibly happen if the players had the same agent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vidal Posted January 2, 2023 Report Share Posted January 2, 2023 24 minutes ago, Harry said: Not in the case of Naismith it’s not. Of course it is. The only way it wouldn’t be is if you are the one who drew up the contract. You mentioned that James is “definitely” on 15k+, again, you are either assuming or pretending to be itk. Reality is like most you just don’t know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
And Its Smith Posted January 2, 2023 Report Share Posted January 2, 2023 8 minutes ago, Port Said Red said: I think that could only possibly happen if the players had the same agent. Some players will have a clause saying they need to be clubs highest paid player. Expect very rare though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
And Its Smith Posted January 2, 2023 Report Share Posted January 2, 2023 5 minutes ago, Vidal said: Of course it is. The only way it wouldn’t be is if you are the one who drew up the contract. You mentioned that James is “definitely” on 15k+, again, you are either assuming or pretending to be itk. Reality is like most you just don’t know. Sometimes people will know for a fact. I’m friends with a brother of a former city player in the 90s and knew what he was getting paid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted January 2, 2023 Report Share Posted January 2, 2023 23 minutes ago, And Its Smith said: I don’t think it is the source. If I look at wages on FM I very rarely think many seem ridiculous. I would say it’s pretty simple to guess close to accurate. Debate on Naismith above for example….no transfer fee will have a strong impact on wage/loyalty bonus. I don’t think transfer fee gets considered by everyone when trying to estimate wages. That’s why I said “some”. Perhaps if I said football manager might be used as a reference / guide for ones they have no idea about, that might be a better statement. 25 minutes ago, Marcus Aurelius said: Remember a few years ago when an employee left a sheet of paper with all the players wages in a coffee shop in Clifton? I still think that was crap. Looked all a bit too simple. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unan Posted January 2, 2023 Report Share Posted January 2, 2023 (edited) I know Lansbury was on a decent wedge, 17k+, he’s from Potters Bar & has a house in Welham Green (AL9 7something, briefly lived there with ex mrs) unsure who the relations were but they loved to talk about his money at any chance possible, never saw Lansbury myself. Edited January 2, 2023 by Marcus Aurelius Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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