Kid in the Riot Posted February 27, 2023 Report Share Posted February 27, 2023 23 minutes ago, robinforlife2 said: Am I the only one, who doesn't actually think he will be sold in the summer. Yes. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted February 27, 2023 Report Share Posted February 27, 2023 22 minutes ago, robinforlife2 said: Am I the only one, who doesn't actually think he will be sold in the summer. I don’t think it’s nailed on. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henry Posted February 27, 2023 Report Share Posted February 27, 2023 37 minutes ago, Davefevs said: I don’t think it’s nailed on. Be interesting if the press ever ask Pearson about the contract offer. I can’t believe they haven’t followed up on Lansdown’s comments (unless I’ve missed it). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottishRed Posted February 27, 2023 Report Share Posted February 27, 2023 2 hours ago, robinforlife2 said: Am I the only one, who doesn't actually think he will be sold in the summer. WE freed a lot of wages in January and anyone who stays now who is out of contract in the summer, will do so on much more favourable terms for us. We already know the direction we are looking in for players (League One and Two promising young players or out of contract players in this division) and we received a considerable fee for Semenyo and every chance of an add on, re Webster, Kelly or Brownhill in the summer. Alex also strikes me as a player with his head screwed on. Unlike Semenyo where he may not get many chances to play at the highest level, with Scott its a matter of when and not if, and moving to a lower league team only to find himself back in the Championship a year later will not appeal, neither will going to one of the big 6 and maybe going out on loan for one or two years before given that chance. If we finish the year strong, and start next season well, I think he'll be happy to stay and try and help us get promotion ourselves. I think the only way he goes in the summer, is if a big club comes in and agrees to loan him back to us next year. I think the idea of a loan back is utter fantasy. If any club is prepared to pay £25m+ for a player they will want to keep him in the building.Even if he is not starting he would certainly make the bench and equally importantly they would be looking to install patterns of play etc on a daily basis in training. I think it is hugely unlikely, not impossible, but unlikely he will be here come August always assuming our valuation is met. As for SL’s comments about a new contract being on the table,that is likely to be about the club trying to protect his value, in no way will it be remotely comparable to what will be on offer to the lad in the summer. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocky Posted February 27, 2023 Report Share Posted February 27, 2023 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kodjias Wrist Posted February 27, 2023 Report Share Posted February 27, 2023 6 minutes ago, Rocky said: Did it say we also wamt 30 million Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glynriley Posted February 27, 2023 Report Share Posted February 27, 2023 2 minutes ago, Kodjias Wrist said: Did it say we also wamt 30 million Plus Elliot Anderson. Just for the craic. 3 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finley_Smith10 Posted February 27, 2023 Report Share Posted February 27, 2023 1 hour ago, Rocky said: Please Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lrrr Posted February 27, 2023 Report Share Posted February 27, 2023 6 hours ago, glynriley said: Plus Elliot Anderson. Just for the craic. On a permanent Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerseybean Posted February 28, 2023 Report Share Posted February 28, 2023 Newcastle United are reportedly the 'frontrunners' to sign Bristol City youngster Alex Scott according to Football Insider. The Magpies are believed to be preparing a swoop for the 19-year-old, who is also being looked at by Premier League rivals Crystal Palace, Wolves and West Ham. Football Insider claim that Eddie Howe's side are likely the favourites to sign the midfielder because they'll be willing to loan him back to the Robins for the 2023/24 season, something other clubs further down the table would not agree to. Bristol City are believed to want around £25 million for Scott's services, and are preparing themselves to be the subject of a bidding war come the summer transfer window. Be brilliant if we can negotiate a loan back deal. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottishRed Posted February 28, 2023 Report Share Posted February 28, 2023 As I have said earlier I think a loan back is highly unlikely. Why would a club fork out £25m and then let him stay with the selling club? I can understand why it happens when there are work permit issues - such as Chelsea are currently experiencing- but obviously that is not an issue here. The players wishes also have to be considered, if you move on to another club you would want the opportunity to get familiar with your new surroundings and push on to try and at least get in the match day squad if not the starting 11. From our point of view I can see the attractions in theory but surely better to move forward with players that are going to be here longer term. Nige is also not keen on loans that in effect develop players for another club. I accept this is slightly different but the principle is the same. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted February 28, 2023 Report Share Posted February 28, 2023 £25m and loan back- that would be an excellent deal! Price is about right but the privilege, the utility of having him for one more year with inevitably some strengthened team, squad around him with some of the cash... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gasbuster Posted February 28, 2023 Report Share Posted February 28, 2023 (edited) 9 minutes ago, ScottishRed said: As I have said earlier I think a loan back is highly unlikely. Why would a club fork out £25m and then let him stay with the selling club? I can understand why it happens when there are work permit issues - such as Chelsea are currently experiencing- but obviously that is not an issue here. The players wishes also have to be considered, if you move on to another club you would want the opportunity to get familiar with your new surroundings and push on to try and at least get in the match day squad if not the starting 11. From our point of view I can see the attractions in theory but surely better to move forward with players that are going to be here longer term. Nige is also not keen on loans that in effect develop players for another club. I accept this is slightly different but the principle is the same. If he goes to Newcastle, personally I will be delighted, a great club that is going places. Much prefer him to go there, rather than some tinpot outfit like Bournemouth. £25M is relatively small change now to Newcastle since their takeover. They may feel that Alex is not quite ready for their first x11, but securing him 12 months early ensures they do at least get him, with his value continuing to increase. As proven, it is better for him to be playing Championship football week in week out, rather than in the P.L. U23 competition. Loaning him back to us ensures he continues to progress in an environment that is familiar to him, rather than a new set up at another (Championship or lower P.L.) club. (Similar to Dele Ali going back to M.K. when Spurs signed him). Edited February 28, 2023 by The Gasbuster 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted February 28, 2023 Report Share Posted February 28, 2023 7 minutes ago, ScottishRed said: As I have said earlier I think a loan back is highly unlikely. Why would a club fork out £25m and then let him stay with the selling club? I can understand why it happens when there are work permit issues - such as Chelsea are currently experiencing- but obviously that is not an issue here. The players wishes also have to be considered, if you move on to another club you would want the opportunity to get familiar with your new surroundings and push on to try and at least get in the match day squad if not the starting 11. From our point of view I can see the attractions in theory but surely better to move forward with players that are going to be here longer term. Nige is also not keen on loans that in effect develop players for another club. I accept this is slightly different but the principle is the same. I guess the main selling point of a loan back offer from Newcastle is that there may be better teams in for him (at the same money), and it’s more attractive to City to do a deal with them. That’s the theory. I think there will be so much talk about Scott this summer, it’ll be what it’ll be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KegCity Posted February 28, 2023 Report Share Posted February 28, 2023 14 minutes ago, ScottishRed said: As I have said earlier I think a loan back is highly unlikely. Why would a club fork out £25m and then let him stay with the selling club? I can understand why it happens when there are work permit issues - such as Chelsea are currently experiencing- but obviously that is not an issue here. The players wishes also have to be considered, if you move on to another club you would want the opportunity to get familiar with your new surroundings and push on to try and at least get in the match day squad if not the starting 11. From our point of view I can see the attractions in theory but surely better to move forward with players that are going to be here longer term. Nige is also not keen on loans that in effect develop players for another club. I accept this is slightly different but the principle is the same. Equally from our point of view, why not just keep him an extra year and sell him the following summer when he's worth even more? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gasbuster Posted February 28, 2023 Report Share Posted February 28, 2023 (edited) 22 minutes ago, KegCity said: Equally from our point of view, why not just keep him an extra year and sell him the following summer when he's worth even more? The sale (and loan back) will see Alex probably increase his salary tenfold - therefore a happy player. He might not wish to stay another year, as our player, on his current contract. Edited February 28, 2023 by The Gasbuster Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CheddarReds Posted February 28, 2023 Report Share Posted February 28, 2023 When prem clubs see an Alex Scott masterclass and start bidding at 10pm tonight... 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nugget Posted February 28, 2023 Report Share Posted February 28, 2023 Newcastle prob one of a few teams you’d think a loan back would be possible. Would be an incredible deal if so - use the Scott funds to acquire strong players yet still have him for another season?! No brainer but feels unlikely scenario. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshtonRobin21 Posted February 28, 2023 Report Share Posted February 28, 2023 As if he hadn’t already, he certainly put himself in the market window tonight. He is the complete player. National coverage for him tonight, and the pundits were showering him with praise. Nige states that it will cost a lot of money if any clubs wish to sign him. I fully believe he will go on to play for England. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cidercity1987 Posted February 28, 2023 Report Share Posted February 28, 2023 Best player on the pitch in the first half Call it £50m Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KegCity Posted February 28, 2023 Report Share Posted February 28, 2023 6 hours ago, The Gasbuster said: The sale (and loan back) will see Alex probably increase his salary tenfold - therefore a happy player. He might not wish to stay another year, as our player, on his current contract. Equally if he’s not our player, he’s just got his big move, is he as committed to the cause? Get as much money for him this summer and rebuild. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lrrr Posted February 28, 2023 Report Share Posted February 28, 2023 (edited) 7 hours ago, KegCity said: Equally from our point of view, why not just keep him an extra year and sell him the following summer when he's worth even more? He'll have 2 years left in the summer (perhaps an option), if there's no option keeping him for another season would put him in that dangerous 12 months left category, how much would teams pay and would Alex wait out a year to move at the end of his contract? No guarantee that extra year he plays as well or doesn't get a major injury. This summer is the optimal value for him all things considered, don't forget we're basically talking about being in the region of a championship record fee received around the level of James Maddison. Edited February 28, 2023 by Lrrr Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KegCity Posted February 28, 2023 Report Share Posted February 28, 2023 7 minutes ago, Lrrr said: He'll have 2 years left in the summer (perhaps an option), if there's no option keeping him for another season would put him in that dangerous 12 months left category, how much would teams pay and would Alex wait out a year to move at the end of his contract? No guarantee that extra year he plays as well or doesn't get a major injury. This summer is the optimal value for him all things considered, don't forget we're basically talking about being in the region of a championship record fee received around the level of James Maddison. Exactly why we’re better off taking the most money possible and moving on. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bodiesaffer Posted March 1, 2023 Report Share Posted March 1, 2023 He played well last night 1st half, showed he’s got the talent for the big leagues. Bit more experience and fitness he can be a top top player. Stand out for us with Kalas last night. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cidered abroad Posted March 1, 2023 Report Share Posted March 1, 2023 2 hours ago, Bodiesaffer said: He played well last night 1st half, showed he’s got the talent for the big leagues. Bit more experience and fitness he can be a top top player. Stand out for us with Kalas last night. The extra fitness and stamina will come soon as he ceases being a late teenager and becomes a full adult. Just compare Foden now and two or three years ago as Man City used him more sparingly while he was where Scott is now. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeAman08 Posted March 1, 2023 Report Share Posted March 1, 2023 It is getting to the point now where I think just value him at 30m and let it play out. You get the sense we are getting much closer to being a playoff type side. If we can add 3 new starting players(imo cb cm and rw) we have a solid enough squad to be compete for playoffs with Scott continuing to improve and staying. As for a loan back, I can’t see it at the prices being quoted. Newcastle will be in Europe next season plus wanting to compete in domestic cups again. I don’t think they’ll be spending 25m to loan him out. Perhaps Anderson on loan to sweeten it which I’d be fine with but imo no chance Scott leaves his next club in the summer. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Geoff Posted March 1, 2023 Report Share Posted March 1, 2023 If he isn't first team ready for Newcastle, surely a year training with better players and learning from Eddie Howe (future England Manager imo) would be more beneficial than being part of a Championship team being flogged to death playing wise twice a week. Also things change quickly, what if Howe isn't at Newcastle in 18 months time. The next manager may not fancy him and that will be another year or so wasted. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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lenred Posted March 1, 2023 Report Share Posted March 1, 2023 6 minutes ago, Davefevs said: Speaks very very well for a young ‘un doesn’t he. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted March 1, 2023 Report Share Posted March 1, 2023 I see on another thread Grealish replied! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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