Assuming he goes

[Davefevs]

8 minutes ago, Port Said Red said:

Actually I did wonder about this, I could see a scenario where Pep feels he is not quite ready for his team, but a recommendation to get some experience under Kompany, one of his protégé would make sense. 

I haven't seen much of Burnley this season, but from what I have seen they seem a million miles from the "bust a gut" side relying on set pieces type side they were under Dyche. 

They are possession heavy, but with purpose (unlike Swansea). I do see the attraction with Kompany, but far better PL team option than Burnley imho

[mozo]

On 11/03/2023 at 18:04, chinapig said:

The Guardian quotes him in full:

After the game, manager Nigel Pearson made it clear City would want more than £25m for the in-demand Scott. “So far the speculation about Alex Scott has been cooked up by journalists and agents,” he said. “We have not received one firm offer. If we do, it will need be more than £25m in today’s market.

“I believe Alex will play for England one day. I thought that when I first saw him in a training session and nothing since has changed my mind. He is a level-headed lad, who won’t be affected by reports in the press. He will play for a top club one day and it’s just a question of when.”

Why does Pearson say "...firm offer"?

It makes me wonder if that means we've had dialogue with clubs where figures have been discussed but that a formal written offer didn't follow??

[Port Said Red]

Just now, mozo said:

Why does Pearson say "...firm offer"?

It makes me wonder if that means we've had dialogue with clubs where figures have been discussed but that a formal written offer didn't follow??

I would think that discussions would be at club rep, agent type level. Something along the lines of figures that might be tempting to us and clubs that would interest Alex. I am sure that goes on a lot as clubs are deciding on what their main targets might be.

[The Gasbuster]

5 hours ago, Mr Popodopolous said:

https://footballleagueworld.co.uk/burnley-middlesbrough-and-sheffield-united-join-transfer-race-for-bristol-city-star/

Few more to add to the list.

This made me chuckle a little regarding Sheffield Utd :

"The Blades, meanwhile, are set to lose James McAtee in the summer and may want someone to sit behind Oli McBurnie and Iliman Ndiaye, providing them with service and giving them the best possible opportunity to thrive at the top level".

As others have said; it is very unlikely they could afford him.

And the thought of Scott being brought in to "sit behind Oli McBurnie" - a complete donkey, is just laughable.

Why buy a Rolls Royce and then use it to push (not even pull) a caravan ?

[cidercity1987]

6 hours ago, Mr Popodopolous said:

https://footballleagueworld.co.uk/burnley-middlesbrough-and-sheffield-united-join-transfer-race-for-bristol-city-star/

Few more to add to the list.

Good heavens I would cry if he went to a newly promoted club

Crystal Palace and above, it has got to be

[REDOXO]

5 hours ago, mozo said:

Why does Pearson say "...firm offer"?

It makes me wonder if that means we've had dialogue with clubs where figures have been discussed but that a formal written offer didn't follow??

That’s exactly what he means. Also If an offer was made well below the asking I would also see that as not being a firm offer. 

my thought is that a big big club is circling   

 

[Northern Red]

1 hour ago, REDOXO said:

That’s exactly what he means. Also If an offer was made well below the asking I would also see that as not being a firm offer. 

my thought is that a big big club is circling   

 

Yep. All about encouraging them to come back with something serious, knowing that others are keeping an eye on the situation.

[Midred]

7 hours ago, Port Said Red said:

Actually I did wonder about this, I could see a scenario where Pep feels he is not quite ready for his team, but a recommendation to get some experience under Kompany, one of his protégé would make sense. 

I haven't seen much of Burnley this season, but from what I have seen they seem a million miles from the "bust a gut" side relying on set pieces type side they were under Dyche. 

Could Pep buy him and loan him out to Burnley - is that what you meant?

[Port Said Red]

21 minutes ago, Midred said:

Could Pep buy him and loan him out to Burnley - is that what you meant?

Hadn't considered that, but I could see that.

[formerly known as ivan]

Two questions based on predicted development…

1. Will Scott ever play for England?

2. Will he ever fetch a fee of £100m+?

 

[Lanterne Rouge]

1 hour ago, formerly known as ivan said:

Two questions based on predicted development…

1. Will Scott ever play for England?

2. Will he ever fetch a fee of £100m+?

 

Yes

No - but only because I think transfer fees are going to come down in the future.

[mozo]

2 hours ago, formerly known as ivan said:

Two questions based on predicted development…

1. Will Scott ever play for England?

2. Will he ever fetch a fee of £100m+?

 

Well we don't know the future but I'd be pretty confident he is capable of making an England squad one day. Too early judge anything more than that.

He might become a Premier League flop. Who knows? All we know at this stage is he justifies the hype and will deservedly get his opportunity. 

[Pezo]

8 hours ago, Lanterne Rouge said:

Yes

No - but only because I think transfer fees are going to come down in the future.

I've been thinking that for 20 years, given up on it now - always seems like there is more money to spend.

I think if he went to a Wolves, Palace or Villa type club (outside chance of European places but not really going to make it) then I think he could move from there to a top 6 side for £100m+ in a few years. It will be interesting to buy him back for that much money when we get there and receive a 30% sell on for our own purchase.

[robin_unreliant]

Can't help thinking that some of the comments on here about AS are a bit OTT. Yes, he is clearly a good young player. Talk of him playing for a Top 4 PL club is a bit premature imho.

He might get there but he needs to improve a lot to be at that level. His goals and assists need to improve and he needs more consistency with his final ball and decision making.

Obviously it is great to have a good young player in our side but we need to be a bit realistic about what he's worth. Talk of him reaching £100m one day is getting a bit silly. He only just scored his first league goal of a season where he has generally been in an AM role.

[formerly known as ivan]

1 hour ago, robin_unreliant said:

Can't help thinking that some of the comments on here about AS are a bit OTT. Yes, he is clearly a good young player. Talk of him playing for a Top 4 PL club is a bit premature imho.

He might get there but he needs to improve a lot to be at that level. His goals and assists need to improve and he needs more consistency with his final ball and decision making.

Obviously it is great to have a good young player in our side but we need to be a bit realistic about what he's worth. Talk of him reaching £100m one day is getting a bit silly. He only just scored his first league goal of a season where he has generally been in an AM role.

The question I asked about the £100m was more from the comparisons with Grealish than anything else. I’m not sure what career stats were like vs Grealish at the same age.

Edited March 15, 2023 by formerly known as ivan

[Mr Popodopolous]

8 hours ago, Pezo said:

I've been thinking that for 20 years, given up on it now - always seems like there is more money to spend.

I think if he went to a Wolves, Palace or Villa type club (outside chance of European places but not really going to make it) then I think he could move from there to a top 6 side for £100m+ in a few years. It will be interesting to buy him back for that much money when we get there and receive a 30% sell on for our own purchase.

30 pct sell on clause of profit is quite rare...usually 15-20 pct, 25 pct at a push.

[Mr Popodopolous]

3 hours ago, formerly known as ivan said:

The question I asked about the £100m was more from the comparisons with Grealish than anything else. I’m not sure what career stats were like vs Grealish at the same age.

Grealish at 18, I've just checked was at Notts County on loan in League One. Like Scott he begun age 17 and turned 18 early in the season.

At 18 into 19 he played 17 PL games- ratio of sub/start would have to look further. In an Aston Villa side in decline, bottom 3rd etc.

[Port Said Red]

20 minutes ago, Mr Popodopolous said:

Grealish at 18, I've just checked was at Notts County on loan in League One. Like Scott he begun age 17 and turned 18 early in the season.

At 18 into 19 he played 17 PL games- ratio of sub/start would have to look further. In an Aston Villa side in decline, bottom 3rd etc.

I wonder where he learned that terrible dive he tried to pull off last night. Honestly Jack, no point trying to make it look like you got caught in a challenge, when the defender hasn't actually made a challenge. 

[Lrrr]

Any of the promoted teams 'could' afford Scott, but I doubt any of them would want to pay what we'd be asking for on a single player. Both Fulham and Bournemouth made a couple of significant signings but none likely at our demanded level, then you have Forest and the amount the spent. I think Scott is smart enough to realise he needs to make a move to the right team in the league for his style rather than just getting a move to the league.

[Unan]

How much would we get to spend? And what should it be spent on?

[Slacker]

Plain chocolate Hobnobs.I love em but they aren't cheap

 

[And Its Smith]

If we sold for £25m and we also have most of the Semenyo money I reckon we’d spend £8-10m this summer. 
 

We obviously need two centre backs and two midfielders assuming Kalas goes as well. One striker as well in my opinion.  Anything else will depend who else leaves I.e need a left back if Dasilva goes 

[Slacker]

2 minutes ago, And Its Smith said:

If we sold for £25m and we also have most of the Semenyo money I reckon we’d spend £8-10m this summer. 
 

We obviously need two centre backs and two midfielders assuming Kalas goes as well. One striker as well in my opinion.  Anything else will depend who else leaves I.e need a left back if Dasilva goes 

Any money left over for Hobnobs?

[Med/MadHatter]

41 minutes ago, Slacker said:

Plain chocolate Hobnobs.I love em but they aren't cheap

 

What witchery is this? plain chocolate Hobnobs? I've never seen the like here in Canada!

[Slacker]

13 minutes ago, Med/MadHatter said:

What witchery is this? plain chocolate Hobnobs? I've never seen the like here in Canada!

You need to move back home immediately. Greatest biscuits ever.

[Med/MadHatter]

2 minutes ago, Slacker said:

You need to move back home immediately. Greatest biscuits ever.

Agreed, I'll have to see if they're sold on Amazon before I come over in the Summer, and bring an empty suitcase

Edited March 16, 2023 by Med/MadHatter
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[Slacker]

There is talk of course that Alex may be sold and loaned back to us.I can't honestly see that happening but his development here is obviously very impressive so it's not impossible a Prem team would allow him to continue his short term progression here.

I think that like Mr Smith said,it will mostly be driven by who leaves in the summer.Nige is clearly not a huge fan of loans and isn't afraid to use the academy. Will be interesting to see the next crop youngsters coming through. Tinnion is doing amazing things there.The senior players we do have seem to be having a really positive impact with them too

 

[AirlieBeachRed]

28 minutes ago, Slacker said:

You need to move back home immediately. Greatest biscuits ever.

Cant be better than a TimTam

[Slacker]

30 minutes ago, AirlieBeachRed said:

Cant be better than a TimTam

I am sad enough that I actually googled that.Is it just a penguin?(Ample opportunities for you there!).

[marcofisher]

5 hours ago, Slacker said:

There is talk of course that Alex may be sold and loaned back to us.I can't honestly see that happening but his development here is obviously very impressive so it's not impossible a Prem team would allow him to continue his short term progression here.

I think that like Mr Smith said,it will mostly be driven by who leaves in the summer.Nige is clearly not a huge fan of loans and isn't afraid to use the academy. Will be interesting to see the next crop youngsters coming through. Tinnion is doing amazing things there.The senior players we do have seem to be having a really positive impact with them too

 

I think Alex is already good enough to play PL football, and may well be best served going to a top team and being in training with those players. Unfortunately for us in that regard!