RedRoss Posted July 20, 2023 Report Share Posted July 20, 2023 Its conveniently been changed to close to signing a moment ago.. https://www.newcastleworld.com/sport/football/newcastle-united/newcastle-united-west-ham-linked-midfielder-closes-in-on-premier-league-move-4225974 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirsikka Posted July 20, 2023 Report Share Posted July 20, 2023 (edited) Any fan of another club complaining about your turning down offers is an idiot. You're perfectly within your rights and good on you for doing so. At the same time, it's pretty standard practise in football to try different offers rather than simply going in at the asking price and so I'm not sure why you're getting upset by it. All any other club is doing is delaying and allowing the interest of other clubs to come into play if they were to miss out on another target. It isn't bad news for you. However, if I recall correctly, there was a higher original asking price on Semenyo and we eventually settled on somewhere in between. It sounds like you're now on a very sound financial footing so can afford to be strong. At the same time, if a club can shave even a million of the price they will try it. There's this belief sometimes that there is unlimited money in the Premier League and so a million here or there doesn't matter but, once you've paid PL wages to a squad of players, and allowing for the fact that most teams need multiple recruits trying to strike as good a deal on each one is essential. Unless you're one of the special few clubs who have completely different level budgets but they don't seem to be coming in for Scott. Seems like you're going to get your asking price on him but there will be plenty of deals done this summer where teams meet somewhere in the middle. That isn't an attempt to insult anyone, purely business being business. Edited July 20, 2023 by Kirsikka 15 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeh Posted July 20, 2023 Report Share Posted July 20, 2023 6 minutes ago, Kirsikka said: Any fan of another club complaining about your turning down offers is an idiot. You're perfectly within your rights and good on you for doing so. At the same time, it's pretty standard practise in football to try different offers rather than simply going in at the asking price and so I'm not sure why you're getting upset by it. All any other club is doing is delaying and allowing the interest of other clubs to come into play if they were to miss out on another target. It isn't bad news for you. However, if I recall correctly, there was a higher original asking price on Semenyo and we eventually settled on somewhere in between. It sounds like you're now on a very sound financial footing so can afford to be strong. At the same time, if a club can shave even a million of the price they will try it. There's this belief sometimes that there is unlimited money in the Premier League and so a million here or there doesn't matter but, once you've paid PL wages to a squad of players, and allowing for the fact that most teams need multiple recruits trying to strike as good a deal on each one is essential. Unless you're one of the special few clubs who have completely different level budgets but they don't seem to be coming in for Scott. Seems like you're going to get your asking price on him but there will be plenty of deals done this summer where teams meet somewhere in the middle. That isn't an attempt to insult anyone, purely business being business. Apart from Derby, they were idiots for turning our offers down Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Isewater Posted July 20, 2023 Report Share Posted July 20, 2023 5 minutes ago, Kirsikka said: if I recall correctly, there was a higher original asking price on Semenyo and we eventually settled on somewhere in between. We needed the money at that point. Now, in part , thanks to your club, we are much better placed and don’t need to sell Scott. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chinapig Posted July 20, 2023 Report Share Posted July 20, 2023 6 minutes ago, Kirsikka said: if I recall correctly, there was a higher original asking price on Semenyo and we eventually settled on somewhere in between. I don't recall us going public on our valuation as we have with Alex. You certainly made more than one offer but when the deal was done we announced that you had met our valuation. Though transfers are all smoke and mirrors of course. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted July 20, 2023 Report Share Posted July 20, 2023 (edited) 21 minutes ago, Kirsikka said: Any fan of another club complaining about your turning down offers is an idiot. You're perfectly within your rights and good on you for doing so. At the same time, it's pretty standard practise in football to try different offers rather than simply going in at the asking price and so I'm not sure why you're getting upset by it. All any other club is doing is delaying and allowing the interest of other clubs to come into play if they were to miss out on another target. It isn't bad news for you. However, if I recall correctly, there was a higher original asking price on Semenyo and we eventually settled on somewhere in between. It sounds like you're now on a very sound financial footing so can afford to be strong. At the same time, if a club can shave even a million of the price they will try it. There's this belief sometimes that there is unlimited money in the Premier League and so a million here or there doesn't matter but, once you've paid PL wages to a squad of players, and allowing for the fact that most teams need multiple recruits trying to strike as good a deal on each one is essential. Unless you're one of the special few clubs who have completely different level budgets but they don't seem to be coming in for Scott. Seems like you're going to get your asking price on him but there will be plenty of deals done this summer where teams meet somewhere in the middle. That isn't an attempt to insult anyone, purely business being business. Toing and froing is all part of the game and business as you say but I wonder maybe it's more fan led, or some online forum fans even and for balance some on social media are just saying pay the £25m so it's a mix, but a portion perhaps subconsciously or otherwise maybe believe that the lower ranked non PL club should be the one to give more ground. That I think is what grates a bit. Edited July 20, 2023 by Mr Popodopolous Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnbytheriver Posted July 20, 2023 Report Share Posted July 20, 2023 Good luck to him wherever he goes.Is Wolves really the right club for him? I am not so sure! One thing i do know the wolves fans are pretty arrogant ,i guess that applies to alot of premier league fans,they have this divine right! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silvio Dante Posted July 20, 2023 Report Share Posted July 20, 2023 36 minutes ago, cheese said: Just been to Tesco - they're mucking me about, I offered them £3.50 for a steak they had marked at £6.50 but they refused. Well, I'm not playing their game of chicken so I left. I also went in Tesco and looked for the steaks but they were on the top shelf and cost a lot of money I left as the steaks were too high 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveF Posted July 20, 2023 Report Share Posted July 20, 2023 1 minute ago, Silvio Dante said: I also went in Tesco and looked for the steaks but they were on the top shelf and cost a lot of money I left as the steaks were too high Don't give up the day job. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Isewater Posted July 20, 2023 Report Share Posted July 20, 2023 2 minutes ago, Silvio Dante said: I also went in Tesco and looked for the steaks but they were on the top shelf and cost a lot of money I left as the steaks were too high 2 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downendcity Posted July 20, 2023 Report Share Posted July 20, 2023 39 minutes ago, Ska Junkie said: I tried the Bournemouth tactic for a laugh and offered Tesla £30k for a £50k model Y. Didn't get it for some reason. Did they pull the plug on the deal? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ska Junkie Posted July 20, 2023 Report Share Posted July 20, 2023 (edited) 7 minutes ago, downendcity said: Did they pull the plug on the deal? '£30k? Watt'? Sorry, EV joke. Edited July 20, 2023 by Ska Junkie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudolf Hucker Posted July 20, 2023 Report Share Posted July 20, 2023 44 minutes ago, Kirsikka said: At the same time, it's pretty standard practise in football to try different offers rather than simply going in at the asking price and so I'm not sure why you're getting upset by it. Thanks for the explaination. I’m sure none of us were aware of that. I don’t think any of us are upset by the bidding approach of a couple of minor Premiership clubs - just amused. Contrary to popular belief people in our part of the world no longer have straw between our teeth (or ears) and right now we’re in the driving seat (albeit of a tractor). Whether we sell Scotty or not, either way we’ll be the winners. 9 1 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downendcity Posted July 20, 2023 Report Share Posted July 20, 2023 58 minutes ago, Ska Junkie said: '£30k? Watt'? Sorry, EV joke. Currently the best reply! For the OTIB pedants I know that current is measured in amps not watts! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronnie Sinclair Posted July 20, 2023 Report Share Posted July 20, 2023 10 minutes ago, downendcity said: Currently the best reply! For the OTIB pedants I know that current is measured in amps not watts! as long as its not Julian Watts........ 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northern Red Posted July 20, 2023 Report Share Posted July 20, 2023 2 hours ago, RedRoss said: Please tell me a media outlet didn't get duped by that fake tweet yesterday! Somebody asked earlier why people make fake profiles? There's your answer. Supposedly credible media organisations getting duped like that will never not be funny. That's what happens when they're desperate for clicks and don't do any checking of their sources. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ska Junkie Posted July 20, 2023 Report Share Posted July 20, 2023 6 minutes ago, Ronnie Sinclair said: as long as its not Julian Watts........ I wish I could be like his brother David. ( need to be of a certain age). 10 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirsikka Posted July 20, 2023 Report Share Posted July 20, 2023 1 hour ago, Rudolf Hucker said: Thanks for the explaination. I’m sure none of us were aware of that. I don’t think any of us are upset by the bidding approach of a couple of minor Premiership clubs - just amused. Contrary to popular belief people in our part of the world no longer have straw between our teeth (or ears) and right now we’re in the driving seat (albeit of a tractor). Whether we sell Scotty or not, either way we’ll be the winners. You say that, and yet reading through this thread... Now, if you'll excuse me I need to go and wash the sand out of my hair and get to my job in an old people's home. 2 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slartibartfast Posted July 20, 2023 Report Share Posted July 20, 2023 49 minutes ago, Ronnie Sinclair said: as long as its not Julian Watts........ or Ethan Ampidu . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slartibartfast Posted July 20, 2023 Report Share Posted July 20, 2023 28 minutes ago, Kirsikka said: You say that, and yet reading through this thread... Now, if you'll excuse me I need to go and wash the sand out of my hair and get to my job in an old people's home. Yes, get back to Jumpers Corner ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ska Junkie Posted July 20, 2023 Report Share Posted July 20, 2023 5 minutes ago, slartibartfast said: or Ethan Ampidu . He's got a new h-ohm I believe. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1960maaan Posted July 20, 2023 Report Share Posted July 20, 2023 5 hours ago, Monkeh said: I also don't like people holding Bournemouth ffp breach against howe, It's nothing to do with howe, he doesn't set the budgets, he spends them, those setting the budgets and doing the accounts are at fault, Howe I think is a top top coach and a future England manager if he wants that job, He has done a very good job at Newcastle Obviously my comment about Howe/FFP was said very much tongue in cheek. We all know it's part of a Manager's brief to ask for more and more, whether that's money, players training ground or whatever. It is clearly the accountant's job to see that a Club doesn't break FFP and an owner's or CEO's to try and break it without penalty 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cityal Posted July 20, 2023 Report Share Posted July 20, 2023 This thread has descended into electricity jokes - things really are in terminal decline Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chinapig Posted July 20, 2023 Report Share Posted July 20, 2023 1 minute ago, cityal said: This thread has descended into electricity jokes - things really are in terminal decline True but currently resistance is futile. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Port Said Red Posted July 20, 2023 Report Share Posted July 20, 2023 Just now, cityal said: This thread has descended into electricity jokes - things really are in terminal decline It's also become a list of plugs for dodgy Twitter accounts, its annoying because it's easy to get your wires crossed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRock Posted July 20, 2023 Report Share Posted July 20, 2023 4 minutes ago, cityal said: This thread has descended into electricity jokes - things really are in terminal decline Think this could end in a pyl on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ska Junkie Posted July 20, 2023 Report Share Posted July 20, 2023 (edited) Let's be honest, we should be more ground-ed. Maybe it's just a phase we're going through. Edited July 20, 2023 by Ska Junkie 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i_am_red Posted July 20, 2023 Report Share Posted July 20, 2023 Thread has lost its spark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
italian dave Posted July 20, 2023 Report Share Posted July 20, 2023 Maybe a conduit for better things though..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frenchay Red Posted July 20, 2023 Report Share Posted July 20, 2023 All offers below £25m re-fused 1 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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