downendcity Posted August 4, 2023 Report Share Posted August 4, 2023 46 minutes ago, Jeez said: Peak value at age 19? Surely not. That's peak value for us selling before his contract ends. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddie Notgetinya Posted August 4, 2023 Report Share Posted August 4, 2023 40 minutes ago, Bcfcshags said: Not in the squad tomorrow. Out injured FFS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid in the Riot Posted August 4, 2023 Report Share Posted August 4, 2023 7 minutes ago, Son of Fred said: I find it all rather depressing. I'm amazed people still hang off the every word of Nige like it is gospel. Football managers and football clubs lie to their fans all the time in order to do right by the greater good. Let's be honest, Nige has likely told a massive porkie in saying Scott is injured. Do I mind it? Not really. He's protecting the interests of the club and player. Same with the "we won't spend the Scott cash" nonsense. Of course that money will be reinvested in new signings over the next couple of years. People need to read between the lines a little more. We are still paying very decent wages and fees for this level. Just because we've significantly reduced the wage bill, doesn't mean we are suddenly paupers in this division. We still pay better than most. 15 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted August 4, 2023 Report Share Posted August 4, 2023 4 hours ago, cityexile said: Keep seeing we are a potentially a CB short with Kallas and injuries from others and you rightly point out the flexibility we do have. Maybe? I know compared to most clubs we are very rare users of the system, but if that is Pearson's judgement too, then does it not lend itself to a 6 month loan to come in rather than a perm? It does lend itself to a half season loan….but just like any signing it’s getting the right player in for the right money. As it stands, with Kal back training, there is no need to go to market, let alone wee-wee-wee all the way home (). Things could change rapidly though, but we have time (almost 4 weeks) to be reactive. 3 hours ago, phantom said: It's been repeated over and over again that any money made WILL NOT be reinvested in new players I am amazed so many people continue to not understand this Phants - it’s also worth noting that Nige plays the media pretty well too. I think he’s trying to do a few things: shut down conversation about prospective transfers, because he generally doesn’t like the subject make people outside of City think we don’t have much to spend (on fees, wages or both) make players inside of City know we are t gonna spend Alex Scott money plumping up their contracts My opinion only - I’d be amazed if we didn’t enter the market if Alex is sold for £25m. My opinion also - it won’t be splashing the cash, it will be players of the profile Tins mentioned pre-summer, the Knight’s and Roberts’ types. A Bit more if my opinion - I don’t think Nige would be happy if he sold a state pkayer for £25m and was told, “sorry there’s none for you”. I suspect many posters are thinking the same, and that Nige isn’t being totally honest. 1 minute ago, Kid in the Riot said: I'm amazed people still hang off the every word of Nige like it is gospel. Football managers and football clubs lie to their fans all the time in order to do right by the greater good. Let's be honest, Nige has likely told a massive porkie in saying Scott is injured. Do I mind it? Not really. He's protecting the interests of the club and player. Same with the "we won't spend the Scott cash" nonsense. Of course that money will be reinvested in new signings over the next couple of years. People need to read between the lines a little more. We are still paying very decent wages and fees for this level. Just because we've significantly reduced the wage bill, doesn't mean we are suddenly paupers in this division. We still pay better than most. You type quicker than me! 12 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted August 4, 2023 Report Share Posted August 4, 2023 Wonder if the wage limit NP was referring to, and forget FFP. Was: A cap on top earner ie no player shall earn more than £x per week. Some kinda average and new signings may disrupt. Or perhaps a total cap ie your wage budget for the season is £20-25m. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gillies Downs Leeds Posted August 4, 2023 Report Share Posted August 4, 2023 9 minutes ago, Kid in the Riot said: I'm amazed people still hang off the every word of Nige like it is gospel. Football managers and football clubs lie to their fans all the time in order to do right by the greater good. Let's be honest, Nige has likely told a massive porkie in saying Scott is injured. Do I mind it? Not really. He's protecting the interests of the club and player. Same with the "we won't spend the Scott cash" nonsense. Of course that money will be reinvested in new signings over the next couple of years. People need to read between the lines a little more. We are still paying very decent wages and fees for this level. Just because we've significantly reduced the wage bill, doesn't mean we are suddenly paupers in this division. We still pay better than most. Indeed can't find it now but saw article the other day where we currently have 9th or 10th highest wage bill in the Championship. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MelksRed Posted August 4, 2023 Report Share Posted August 4, 2023 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Gillies Downs Leeds said: Indeed can't find it now but saw article the other day where we currently have 9th or 10th highest wage bill in the Championship. This genuinely surprises me. I thought we would have been a little lower on the scale. Makes it more frustrating that we have stammered to a mid-table halt.....(which I would take over relegation battle any day) Edited August 4, 2023 by MelksRed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
italian dave Posted August 4, 2023 Report Share Posted August 4, 2023 13 minutes ago, Kid in the Riot said: I'm amazed people still hang off the every word of Nige like it is gospel. Football managers and football clubs lie to their fans all the time in order to do right by the greater good. Let's be honest, Nige has likely told a massive porkie in saying Scott is injured. Do I mind it? Not really. He's protecting the interests of the club and player. Same with the "we won't spend the Scott cash" nonsense. Of course that money will be reinvested in new signings over the next couple of years. People need to read between the lines a little more. We are still paying very decent wages and fees for this level. Just because we've significantly reduced the wage bill, doesn't mean we are suddenly paupers in this division. We still pay better than most. When you say ‘read between the lines’ I assume you mean in relation to the cash. On the “injury” it feels more like a case of reading the bleeding’ obvious! I do understand why they do it, but they must think we’re daft. I hope it’s an indication a deal is close, not that he’s worried that Alex’s head is elsewhere. The speculation isn’t going to go away however long he stays now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NcnsBcfc Posted August 4, 2023 Report Share Posted August 4, 2023 1 hour ago, Bcfcshags said: Not in the squad tomorrow. Out injured Probably the same injury that forced Knight to pull out of that Derby friendly then? 1 12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted August 4, 2023 Report Share Posted August 4, 2023 20 minutes ago, Mr Popodopolous said: Wonder if the wage limit NP was referring to, and forget FFP. Was: A cap on top earner ie no player shall earn more than £x per week. Some kinda average and new signings may disrupt. Or perhaps a total cap ie your wage budget for the season is £20-25m. The club will have set a playing budget that they all agree with. I suspect there is flex in it. 13 minutes ago, Gillies Downs Leeds said: Indeed can't find it now but saw article the other day where we currently have 9th or 10th highest wage bill in the Championship. Was it this one? whatever the source of this (I asked I got the response “trust me bro”) it’s crap. Having said that our wage bill as a club has been in the top non-PP bunch…but that has now come down. We will see evidence of that in 22/23’s accounts when they’re out later this year / early next year, and also further reductions this season too as the likes of Massengo, Kalas, Dasilva, Moore, Bentley etc are no longer part of it. Will we still pay well? Yes for the right profile player. But likely that the days of paying £25k p.w. are gone, and paying £15k-18k for average players too. Only my view. But based on looking as much into the numbers as guesswork allows. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bcfc01 Posted August 4, 2023 Report Share Posted August 4, 2023 6 minutes ago, NcnsBcfc said: Probably the same injury that forced Knight to pull out of that Derby friendly then? There's injury then there's "injury". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cardy Posted August 4, 2023 Report Share Posted August 4, 2023 It may well be a blessing in disguise that Scott is mysteriously unavailable all of a sudden. We risk a situation where one player dominates the attention of everyone & dilutes the experience for everybody else. We saw that with the end of season walk around the pitch. It was all about Scott. This season is not about Alex Scott. It is about an exciting new team with bags of talent & potential that with a bit of luck could do something special. I’m not saying I don’t want Scott to be part of that team - ofcourse I do. But his head has to be in the right place - which it clearly wasn’t for the last home game of last season. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marmite Posted August 4, 2023 Report Share Posted August 4, 2023 I hope no other clubs show interest in any of our 1st eleven before tomorrow otherwise our medical team won't be able to cope with the "injuries".....and we will be fielding our youth team. Is Nigel really looking after the clubs best interest if he doesn't play our best player.(assuming he's not actually injured). Every point will be vital this season. We need to put out our strongest squad available whilst they're here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudolf Hucker Posted August 4, 2023 Report Share Posted August 4, 2023 39 minutes ago, italian dave said: they must think we’re daft. Some of us are. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
handsofclay Posted August 4, 2023 Report Share Posted August 4, 2023 Apparently the injury to Scott is genuine. Someone told him there's a 160 page thread about him and the poor lad unfortunately read it. Now suffering from PTSD. 17 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Show Me The Money! Posted August 4, 2023 Report Share Posted August 4, 2023 2 hours ago, Bcfcshags said: Not in the squad tomorrow. Out injured Heard he walked into a table 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudolf Hucker Posted August 4, 2023 Report Share Posted August 4, 2023 (edited) 19 minutes ago, Show Me The Money! said: Heard he walked into a table Nah. Tripped over a ‘kin chair that some guy from WsM left by the table. Edited August 4, 2023 by Rudolf Hucker 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dolman Block B Posted August 4, 2023 Report Share Posted August 4, 2023 3 hours ago, Bcfcshags said: Not in the squad tomorrow. Out injured Says who? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted August 4, 2023 Report Share Posted August 4, 2023 1 minute ago, Dolman Block B said: Says who? Shags! 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudolf Hucker Posted August 4, 2023 Report Share Posted August 4, 2023 2 minutes ago, Davefevs said: Shags! Sorry Dave. I’m a bit busy atm. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elruliri Posted August 4, 2023 Report Share Posted August 4, 2023 1 minute ago, Rudolf Hucker said: Sorry Dave. I’m a bit busy atm. You are awful but I like you! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 4, 2023 Report Share Posted August 4, 2023 Genuine injury. NP doesn’t have any of that bullshit that previous managers & other clubs have done when they don’t select players due to them being close to moving clubs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose Posted August 4, 2023 Report Share Posted August 4, 2023 5 minutes ago, Bcfcshags said: Genuine injury. NP doesn’t have any of that bullshit that previous managers & other clubs have done when they don’t select players due to them being close to moving clubs. No issue with his head being in the right space? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 4, 2023 Report Share Posted August 4, 2023 4 minutes ago, Jose said: No issue with his head being in the right space? Nope Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose Posted August 4, 2023 Report Share Posted August 4, 2023 3 minutes ago, Bcfcshags said: Nope Good stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCFCGav Posted August 4, 2023 Report Share Posted August 4, 2023 7 minutes ago, Bcfcshags said: Nope How bad is the injury?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted August 4, 2023 Report Share Posted August 4, 2023 45 minutes ago, Rudolf Hucker said: Sorry Dave. I’m a bit busy atm. Can you squeeze me in….ooh err! 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Show Me The Money! Posted August 4, 2023 Report Share Posted August 4, 2023 50 minutes ago, Davefevs said: Can you squeeze me in….ooh err! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
W-S-M Seagull Posted August 4, 2023 Report Share Posted August 4, 2023 Am I imagining that earlier on I saw Scotts shirt and it has since disappeared? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledAjax Posted August 4, 2023 Report Share Posted August 4, 2023 4 hours ago, handsofclay said: Apparently the injury to Scott is genuine. Someone told him there's a 160 page thread about him and the poor lad unfortunately read it. Now suffering from PTSD. Eddie Nketiah was never the same player after suffering the same injury. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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