Super Posted April 4, 2023 Report Share Posted April 4, 2023 7 minutes ago, Rob k said: yeah maybe - but they are clearly being told to do go down the same with any other player from other clubs are. Yes it's part of the game but doesn't mean it's right. Other sports must laugh. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luke_bristol Posted April 4, 2023 Report Share Posted April 4, 2023 13 hours ago, Super said: You can guarantee the reaction to it would be different if it was a foreign player and not the England captain. The Torygraph are going in on Kane and it’s been a major talking point all morning Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seventeen Posted April 4, 2023 Report Share Posted April 4, 2023 (edited) Can not believe the reaction people have had to what Kane done! Yet it's not good but EVERYONE does it. If it was the other way round Everton fans would be loving it. It was also a clear red, not as if he dived and deceived the referee. Not sure why Kane gets so much stick from English fans. Edited April 4, 2023 by Seventeen 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted April 4, 2023 Report Share Posted April 4, 2023 9 minutes ago, Seventeen said: Can not believe the reaction people have had to what Kane done! Yet it's not good but EVERYONE does it. If it was the other way round Everton fans would be loving it. It was also a clear red, not as if he dived and deceived the referee. Not sure why Kane gets so much stick from English fans. Probably because we are quick to slate foreign players for doing it. I do agree about Everton fans as they had years of Richarlison doing it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northern Red Posted April 4, 2023 Report Share Posted April 4, 2023 43 minutes ago, Seventeen said: Can not believe the reaction people have had to what Kane done! Yet it's not good but EVERYONE does it. If it was the other way round Everton fans would be loving it. It was also a clear red, not as if he dived and deceived the referee. Not sure why Kane gets so much stick from English fans. Because in this country we have a peculiar habit of actively looking to go after our own. Not just football, but all sports. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted April 4, 2023 Report Share Posted April 4, 2023 5 minutes ago, Northern Red said: Because in this country we have a peculiar habit of actively looking to go after our own. Not just football, but all sports. Does Kane get stick from English fans? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seventeen Posted April 4, 2023 Report Share Posted April 4, 2023 28 minutes ago, Super said: Does Kane get stick from English fans? Yes. Lots of it, unjustified too. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted April 4, 2023 Report Share Posted April 4, 2023 4 minutes ago, Seventeen said: Yes. Lots of it, unjustified too. Can't say i've ever noticed it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
handsofclay Posted April 4, 2023 Report Share Posted April 4, 2023 The problem is if a big show isn't made of any transgressions they tend not to get acted upon. Same with penalties, if a player is clipped in the box and tries to stay on his feet a penalty isn't given. In fact VAR don't even look at it. But if at the slightest touch the player goes down, then if the ref doesn't give it at least VAR looks at it, sees there was contact and the pen is given. During the World Cup when Maguire, iirc, was rugby tackled to the ground in the box he got up and apart from a look at the ref did little to highlight it. VAR didn't even look at it yet it was a nailed on penalty! But pound to a penny, had Maguire stayed down clutching various parts of his anatomy and other England players confronted the culprit and made a show of the incident, VAR would definitely have looked at it and given a penalty. I see on here plenty of times posters complaining about City or England players not being savvy enough in getting decisions go our way. When, God forbid, an England player does just that, then he gets unjustified stick. Well done Harry Kane, more power to your elbow. After all, he wasn't at fault, all he did was ensure the Everton player who did transgress the rules got the correct punishment for it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinmans Love Child Posted April 4, 2023 Report Share Posted April 4, 2023 (edited) I'm not saying that I want to go back to the days of Vinnie Jones type tackles as they are reckless, but I would love to return to the days when players took it all as part of the game and actively didn't react to bad challenges or even not so bad challenges in the case of Kane last night, note the tackle on Cantona is criminal but Cantona is up quicker than Vinnie Jones! This would not happen now Edited April 4, 2023 by Tinmans Love Child 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
W-S-M Seagull Posted April 4, 2023 Report Share Posted April 4, 2023 8 hours ago, Super said: It's a clear red yes but smacked in the face? Really? If it wasn't a smack then it's not a red? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted April 4, 2023 Report Share Posted April 4, 2023 2 hours ago, W-S-M Seagull said: If it wasn't a smack then it's not a red? What on earth are you on about? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
W-S-M Seagull Posted April 4, 2023 Report Share Posted April 4, 2023 1 hour ago, Super said: What on earth are you on about? I was wondering the same about your comments. He raised his hand and smacked him across the face. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redsince1994 Posted April 4, 2023 Report Share Posted April 4, 2023 Not defending Kane, but currently watching Chelsea Liverpool and in the last 5 minutes 2 Chelsea players have gone down clutching their face from significantly less contact than Kane. Not even mentioned by the commentators. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redsince1994 Posted April 4, 2023 Report Share Posted April 4, 2023 (edited) 7 hours ago, handsofclay said: The problem is if a big show isn't made of any transgressions they tend not to get acted upon. Same with penalties, if a player is clipped in the box and tries to stay on his feet a penalty isn't given. In fact VAR don't even look at it. But if at the slightest touch the player goes down, then if the ref doesn't give it at least VAR looks at it, sees there was contact and the pen is given. During the World Cup when Maguire, iirc, was rugby tackled to the ground in the box he got up and apart from a look at the ref did little to highlight it. VAR didn't even look at it yet it was a nailed on penalty! But pound to a penny, had Maguire stayed down clutching various parts of his anatomy and other England players confronted the culprit and made a show of the incident, VAR would definitely have looked at it and given a penalty. I see on here plenty of times posters complaining about City or England players not being savvy enough in getting decisions go our way. When, God forbid, an England player does just that, then he gets unjustified stick. Well done Harry Kane, more power to your elbow. After all, he wasn't at fault, all he did was ensure the Everton player who did transgress the rules got the correct punishment for it. This is the main problem now. It is completely the fault of decades of simulation, but it has resulted in decisions not being given unless players go down like they have been shot. Edited April 4, 2023 by redsince1994 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted April 4, 2023 Report Share Posted April 4, 2023 52 minutes ago, W-S-M Seagull said: I was wondering the same about your comments. He raised his hand and smacked him across the face. You obviously watched something different. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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