ChippenhamRed Posted April 13, 2023 Report Share Posted April 13, 2023 Excellent news in my opinion. I hope EFL clubs follow suit. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
East End Old Boy Posted April 13, 2023 Report Share Posted April 13, 2023 1 minute ago, ChippenhamRed said: Excellent news in my opinion. I hope EFL clubs follow suit. From the FRONT of match day shirts! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChippenhamRed Posted April 13, 2023 Author Report Share Posted April 13, 2023 1 minute ago, East End Old Boy said: From the FRONT of match day shirts! It’s a start. The tide of public opinion has turned against gambling advertising - as the comments below the tweet show - and I would suggest this is the first step towards an eventual complete ban. Some might think that’s naive, but I do think that’s the direction of travel for this issue now. It will get to a point where gambling advertising is so frowned upon it becomes counterproductive for any club or league to take their money. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silvio Dante Posted April 13, 2023 Report Share Posted April 13, 2023 I might be remembering this wrong, but didn’t the club end the Mansion bet deal early and move to Huboo as the mood music was that this was coming and they didn’t want to chase sponsors with everyone else when it came in? I’m not sure how many EFL clubs have gambling companies on the front of shirt if that comes in, but if you assume as the Prem it’s 40% that’s a hell of a lot of people chasing new sponsors at the same time. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View from the Dolman Posted April 13, 2023 Report Share Posted April 13, 2023 "the collective agreement will begin at the end of the 2025/26 season" - so it's from the start of the 2026/27 season? Why not just say that rather than make it sound like it'll take effect sooner? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Never to the dark side Posted April 13, 2023 Report Share Posted April 13, 2023 Thats interesting that it says front of the shirts,could it be put on the top of the back and shirts? Shirt sleeves,shorts,socks? Some one should contact ASH. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
W-S-M Seagull Posted April 13, 2023 Report Share Posted April 13, 2023 It's a load of bs. They knew the government were going to get involved in this which would have most likely of seen an outright ban so they are just trying to be seen to do something rather than the government step in and do it. This way they still get to keep the lucrative gambling advertising in stadiums etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curr Avon Posted April 13, 2023 Report Share Posted April 13, 2023 22 minutes ago, ChippenhamRed said: Excellent news in my opinion. I hope EFL clubs follow suit. What were the odds on that? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid in the Riot Posted April 13, 2023 Report Share Posted April 13, 2023 A case of "jumped before pushed" I think... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curr Avon Posted April 13, 2023 Report Share Posted April 13, 2023 10 minutes ago, Silvio Dante said: I might be remembering this wrong, but didn’t the club end the Mansion bet deal early and move to Huboo as the mood music was that this was coming and they didn’t want to chase sponsors with everyone else when it came in? I’m not sure how many EFL clubs have gambling companies on the front of shirt if that comes in, but if you assume as the Prem it’s 40% that’s a hell of a lot of people chasing new sponsors at the same time. You forgot about the days of Dunder. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneTeamInBristol Posted April 13, 2023 Report Share Posted April 13, 2023 Ivan Toney is devastated 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silvio Dante Posted April 13, 2023 Report Share Posted April 13, 2023 5 minutes ago, Curr Avon said: You forgot about the days of Dunder. Mansion Bet came after Dunder Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curr Avon Posted April 13, 2023 Report Share Posted April 13, 2023 2 minutes ago, Silvio Dante said: Mansion Bet came after Dunder I cashed out too early there. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepy1968 Posted April 13, 2023 Report Share Posted April 13, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, ChippenhamRed said: Excellent news in my opinion. I hope EFL clubs follow suit. But absolutely a 100% cynical move ahead of the independant regulator appointment. Plus this will increase the value of shirt sleeve advertising, at least for the bigger clubs. (Credit, Kieran McGuire/Price of Football podcast. I'm not bright enough to think of that on my own.) What about crypo and nft - that's thinly disguised gambling? Edited April 13, 2023 by Sleepy1968 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northern Red Posted April 13, 2023 Report Share Posted April 13, 2023 (edited) The timing and motive might be questionable, but this is undoubtedly a good thing. The correlation between betting and football is absolutely ridiculous. There are people who can't watch a game without having a "cheeky acca" on & kids will surely be making the connection that the two are utterly intertwined with betting ads bookending every break, splashed over shirts for years. There's a long way to go, but this is a good start. Edited April 13, 2023 by Northern Red 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
just like watching brazil Posted April 13, 2023 Report Share Posted April 13, 2023 Ivan toney had a bet on it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledAjax Posted April 13, 2023 Report Share Posted April 13, 2023 (edited) 6 hours ago, Silvio Dante said: I might be remembering this wrong, but didn’t the club end the Mansion bet deal early and move to Huboo as the mood music was that this was coming and they didn’t want to chase sponsors with everyone else when it came in? I’m not sure how many EFL clubs have gambling companies on the front of shirt if that comes in, but if you assume as the Prem it’s 40% that’s a hell of a lot of people chasing new sponsors at the same time. Bristol Council banned gambling ads which effectively made our bus stop and other public ads impossible to deliver as they all carried the Mansion Bet logo. We terminated the whole relationship. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bristolpost.co.uk/news/bristol-news/bristol-city-council-bans-adverts-5138679.amp As to PL announcement...is it a ban or is it a "collective agreement"? There's no mention of any change to the PL Rules or handbook, so it seems like a handshake agreement rather than anything enforceable or defined. I wonder how they've even defined "gambling sponsorship"? Will promoted teams automatically be under its umbrella next season? Seems unlikely unless it's enshrined in the PL Rules or articles of association. And as others have pointed out this doesn't stop advertising gambling on hoardings, in the concourse, on websites, during PL broadcasts, on shorts, on sleeves, on players bodies, on the waistband of your pants etc etc. Edited April 13, 2023 by ExiledAjax Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoystonFoote'snephew Posted April 13, 2023 Report Share Posted April 13, 2023 The PL blurb says its a collective agreement to begin at the start of the 2025/26 season. Any chance of players names and numbers on the front and advertising on the back? Not sure how many clubs would be affected if extended to the Championship. We'd be OK but it would give Stoke an interesting dilemma with the Coates family owning Bet365. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glastored Posted April 13, 2023 Report Share Posted April 13, 2023 Quite right too. Hopefully, advertisements for gambling will eventually be as vilified as ads for smoking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronnie Sinclair Posted April 13, 2023 Report Share Posted April 13, 2023 The World Snooker championship no longer sponsored by Betfred this year, just as well when they've suspended a number of players for er, betting! (allegedly) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bcfcape91 Posted April 13, 2023 Report Share Posted April 13, 2023 Any EFL team with aspirations of getting to the Premier League will surely avoid sponsorship from betting companies aswell then. Unless deals include clauses to lose the main shirt sponsorship should the team make it to the Premier League, which seems unlikely. It could be that betting companies will have to accept 1 year deals for Championship teams, 2 years for league 1 etc. Sleeve sponsorship will certainly be very expensive for them. All of a sudden betting companies must be finding sponsoring any team unattractive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dredd Posted April 14, 2023 Report Share Posted April 14, 2023 15 hours ago, RoystonFoote'snephew said: The PL blurb says its a collective agreement to begin at the start of the 2025/26 season. Any chance of players names and numbers on the front and advertising on the back? Not sure how many clubs would be affected if extended to the Championship. We'd be OK but it would give Stoke an interesting dilemma with the Coates family owning Bet365. Would be a bit hypocritical in the Sky Bet Championship 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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