Fordy62 Posted June 30, 2023 Report Share Posted June 30, 2023 Has anyone read it? What a complete shit shower of a club. What does this statement hope to achieve? It basically just slings mud and says “it’s not fair!” deplorable club 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Betty Swallocks Posted June 30, 2023 Report Share Posted June 30, 2023 It’s almost like Cardiff & Rovers are in a competition to see who can be the scummiest club. 11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddie Hitler Posted June 30, 2023 Report Share Posted June 30, 2023 Yes, I fail to see the relevance of the internal affairs of Nantes to a player transfer for which Cardiff agreed the fee. Given the dubious nature of the ownership of Nantes possibly Cardiff should have paid into an escrow account for the benefit of Nantes FC once these matters have been resolved as this would safeguard those funds it doesn't however mean that they shouldn't pay them over given that they lost the judgement. I didn't see the Sala transfer saga as being as balck and white as others did and thought that Cardiff were simply doing what any company would do to protect its position; though there is a whole thread on this where I have stated similar. This statement is however clutching at straws. Today, FIFA ordered Cardiff City FC to pay the 2nd and 3rd instalments of the transfer fee for Emiliano Sala to FC Nantes as expected. Yesterday the CEO of FC Nantes, Franck Kita, was placed into police custody alongside Bakari Sanogo and Joaquim Batica by the JIRS, French prosecutors specialised in organised crime and financial crime. A judicial investigation was opened in June 2022 on the counts of "illegal exercise of sports agent activity, forgery and use of forgery, misuse of corporate assets, laundering of aggravated tax evasion and organised money laundering". The Club's negligence claim in France against FC Nantes exhibits direct exchanges showing Mr Kita was informing Mr Sanogo of the proposed transfer fee for Emiliano Sala. It is not clear why. In the circumstances, the Club considers that it would have been fairer if the requirement to pay FC Nantes had been deferred until the conclusion of the French police investigations and the club's claim against FC Nantes in the French courts. https://www.cardiffcityfc.co.uk/news/club-statement-300623 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lew-T Posted June 30, 2023 Report Share Posted June 30, 2023 46 minutes ago, Fordy62 said: Has anyone read it? What a complete shit shower of a club. What does this statement hope to achieve? It basically just slings mud and says “it’s not fair!” deplorable club That statement is a disgrace. A man has died, there is no compassion there for Sala and the poor guys family. ”It would have been fairer to do it this way…” ***** 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chinapig Posted June 30, 2023 Report Share Posted June 30, 2023 Cardiff have paid the first instalment and it is understood they intend – albeit reluctantly – to now pay the remaining two. https://www.theguardian.com/football/2023/jun/30/fifa-orders-cardiff-to-complete-payments-for-emiliano-sala-to-nantes So that's about £10m they have to pay and try to recover from Nantes via their negligence claim. Good luck with that! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted June 30, 2023 Report Share Posted June 30, 2023 4 minutes ago, chinapig said: Cardiff have paid the first instalment and it is understood they intend – albeit reluctantly – to now pay the remaining two. https://www.theguardian.com/football/2023/jun/30/fifa-orders-cardiff-to-complete-payments-for-emiliano-sala-to-nantes So that's about £10m they have to pay and try to recover from Nantes via their negligence claim. Good luck with that! Their claim is far greater, €110m was it?? Yet to read the statement or article however. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chinapig Posted June 30, 2023 Report Share Posted June 30, 2023 1 minute ago, Mr Popodopolous said: Their claim is far greater, €110m was it?? Yet to read the statement or article however. I meant if they win their claim they will effectively get back the £15m they will have paid Nantes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted June 30, 2023 Report Share Posted June 30, 2023 19 minutes ago, chinapig said: I meant if they win their claim they will effectively get back the £15m they will have paid Nantes. Surely that would be included in the €110m that they're arguing for? I am possibly not getting it here.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chinapig Posted June 30, 2023 Report Share Posted June 30, 2023 7 minutes ago, Mr Popodopolous said: Surely that would be included in the €110m that they're arguing for? I am possibly not getting it here.. Yes, that's what I mean, getting that €110m would mean they effectively get the fee back. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted June 30, 2023 Report Share Posted June 30, 2023 (edited) 49 minutes ago, chinapig said: Yes, that's what I mean, getting that €110m would mean they effectively get the fee back. Ah with you now. The fee and then some! To make it worse they put the fee in a very financially beneficial period, 2018-19 PL money provision so no amortisation needed but could write it back years later if the verdict went their way. Fortunately that particular verdict didn't go their way and €110m partially using xG for a sadly deceased player is surely for the birds. Edited June 30, 2023 by Mr Popodopolous 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ska Junkie Posted June 30, 2023 Report Share Posted June 30, 2023 4 hours ago, chinapig said: I meant if they win their claim they will effectively get back the £15m they will have paid Nantes. Not quite totally correct. Cardiff's counter claim INSISTS that Sala's goals would have kept them in the PL, hence the ridiculous figure. How that is Nante's fault is beyond me but that's what Cardiff are claiming as loss of revenue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WessexPest Posted July 1, 2023 Report Share Posted July 1, 2023 Unlucky, Bog-smashing Blueturds. Cough up. 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fammyfan Posted July 1, 2023 Report Share Posted July 1, 2023 Cardiff finished 2 points below Brighton in 17th place and were 10 goals worst off on goal difference. On reviewing their results in the second half of the season, there was only 4 games whereby a single goal could have got them a point or more. Arsenal 2 - Cardiff 1 Cardiff 1 - Chelsea 2 Fulham 1 - Cardiff 0 Cardiff 2 - Crystal Palace 3 Taking into consideration the poor goal difference Cardiff had, they were 3 points short of survival. It’s a far fetched argument that Sala would have changed the outcome of 75% of the games above with no experience of English football or the premier league, or that this would have occurred without reply from the opposition. Cannot see the claim being successful, particularly with €110m at stake. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BS3City Posted July 1, 2023 Report Share Posted July 1, 2023 16 hours ago, Betty Swallocks said: It’s almost like Cardiff & Rovers are in a competition to see who can be the scummiest club. 100% spot on. As they flounder around craving to be what we are. Both clubs are shitehouses... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bar BS3 Posted July 1, 2023 Report Share Posted July 1, 2023 14 hours ago, Fammyfan said: Cardiff finished 2 points below Brighton in 17th place and were 10 goals worst off on goal difference. On reviewing their results in the second half of the season, there was only 4 games whereby a single goal could have got them a point or more. Arsenal 2 - Cardiff 1 Cardiff 1 - Chelsea 2 Fulham 1 - Cardiff 0 Cardiff 2 - Crystal Palace 3 Taking into consideration the poor goal difference Cardiff had, they were 3 points short of survival. It’s a far fetched argument that Sala would have changed the outcome of 75% of the games above with no experience of English football or the premier league, or that this would have occurred without reply from the opposition. Cannot see the claim being successful, particularly with €110m at stake. Surely you'd also have to take off the goal contributions from one of their other strikers to even consider taking that into account - which is an utterly absurd argument anyway! Can we sue the club we signed any disappointing player from because they didn't score the goals needed to get us promoted.? 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted July 1, 2023 Report Share Posted July 1, 2023 (edited) 13 minutes ago, Bar BS3 said: Surely you'd also have to take off the goal contributions from one of their other strikers to even consider taking that into account - which is an utterly absurd argument anyway! Can we sue the club we signed any disappointing player from because they didn't score the goals needed to get us promoted.? Boom I was gonna post that earlier, got distracted, and then forgot. I guess Cardiff thought they could play with 12? Edited July 1, 2023 by Davefevs 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BetterRedthanBlue Posted July 1, 2023 Report Share Posted July 1, 2023 Absolutely horrible club for this. I hope they fail with their appeal and have to pay legal fees for both teams. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepy1968 Posted July 2, 2023 Report Share Posted July 2, 2023 If you're involved in a contentious court case then maybe don't draw attention to yourself by posting ill judged, tone-deaf comments. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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