BCFCGav Posted July 3, 2023 Report Share Posted July 3, 2023 (edited) Which isn't massively relevant to OTIB but I thought could be an interesting off-season discussion point regardless. Between their treble win last season and their 'fourmidables' season a few years back, they have previous of going deep in multiple competitions simultaneously. Pep has been open in the fact that there isn't so much a 'priority competition' culture at the club, and more of an 'if we're in it, we want it' attitude. They've always taken the two domestic cups seriously under Pep, which has been to our detriment in both the League Cup and more recently the FA Cup. And now with their maiden Champions League stored safely in Manchester, they've qualified for the UEFA Super Cup; a tricky-but-very-winnable tie with Sevilla, and the Club World Cup where they will face clubs from South America, Africa and beyond. So, 7 honours up for grabs: Champions League Premier League FA Cup League Cup Club World Cup UEFA Super Cup Community Shield Feel free to wager a guess at how many they get. I honestly wouldn't write them off getting the lot, they're a scary proposition, but I'll go 4. Hope it's lower though. Edited July 3, 2023 by BCFCGav Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Horse With No Name Posted July 3, 2023 Report Share Posted July 3, 2023 (edited) Well, bearing in mind they are in the final of two of them already, its a fair bet they will win those, so I'm going 5 or 6. Edited July 3, 2023 by CrackingCheeseGromit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cidercity1987 Posted July 3, 2023 Report Share Posted July 3, 2023 It must be pretty boring to be a Man City fan If we ever won something meaningful it would be pretty much the best day of my life, even just getting promoted to the Prem would be up there. But for the second/third/fourth trophy in a lifetime I bet the feeling wears off, let alone four/five/six/seven in a season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lrrr Posted July 3, 2023 Report Share Posted July 3, 2023 You counting the Papa Johns for their 21's? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCFCGav Posted July 3, 2023 Author Report Share Posted July 3, 2023 3 minutes ago, cidercity1987 said: It must be pretty boring to be a Man City fan If we ever won something meaningful it would be pretty much the best day of my life, even just getting promoted to the Prem would be up there. But for the second/third/fourth trophy in a lifetime I bet the feeling wears off, let alone four/five/six/seven in a season. I think once you're one of these 'mega clubs', Man City at this moment, Man United circa 2010, it's about staying there. If Man City went 3 seasons without a trophy now it'd feel like a lifetime, and they'd get hammered for it by rival fans. Once you're at the summit, the motivation is to not fall back down. I'm sure very trophy win still feels very special - and nerve-wracking as ever. 4 minutes ago, Lrrr said: You counting the Papa Johns for their 21's? Ha - not quite. First team honours only! The day an unders team wins the Papa John's, a small part of me will die. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledAjax Posted July 3, 2023 Report Share Posted July 3, 2023 We're counting the Super Cup, Club World Cup, and Community Shield as "honours" now are we? Ok. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted July 3, 2023 Report Share Posted July 3, 2023 Club World Cup is growing in scope, 32 teams soon. Which btw is mad, Infantino said a little ago that we need more, much more football but do we?? 48 team World Cup 36 team with big group stages Champions Leagues Nations League in Europe and in on the North American zone 32 Team Club World Cup Euros up from 16 to 24. Group stages which didn't exist before in the CL, Europa League and Conference League..was straight knockout in the past. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledAjax Posted July 3, 2023 Report Share Posted July 3, 2023 Just now, Mr Popodopolous said: Club World Cup is growing in scope, 32 teams soon. Which btw is mad, Infantino said a little ago that we need more, much more football but do we?? 48 team World Cup 36 team with big group stages Champions Leagues Nations League in Europe and in on the North American zone 32 Team Club World Cup Euros up from 16 to 24. Group stages which didn't exist before in the CL, Europa League and Conference League..was straight knockout in the past. Infantino is jealous that UEFA gets loads of money every season due to the Champions League (and other UEFA competitions). He thinks it's not right that FIFA only gets loads of money every four seasons when a world cup comes around. That's why he's expanding the Club World Cup. He wants a cash cow every season. No, of course we don't need more football. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottishRed Posted July 3, 2023 Report Share Posted July 3, 2023 2 minutes ago, Mr Popodopolous said: Club World Cup is growing in scope, 32 teams soon. Which btw is mad, Infantino said a little ago that we need more, much more football but do we?? 48 team World Cup 36 team with big group stages Champions Leagues Nations League in Europe and in on the North American zone 32 Team Club World Cup Euros up from 16 to 24. Group stages which didn't exist before in the CL, Europa League and Conference League..was straight knockout in the past. Crazy. What he means is that we need more football that generates money for FIFA / UEFA and of course himself. I love football, as I am sure most on here do, but it’s going to eat itself with people like him a n positions of power. He does of course need the money, the upkeep on that house in Qatar must be costly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCFCGav Posted July 3, 2023 Author Report Share Posted July 3, 2023 1 hour ago, ExiledAjax said: We're counting the Super Cup, Club World Cup, and Community Shield as "honours" now are we? Ok. I’m using the words honours and trophies interchangeably. Obviously some are more prestigious than others, but all three of the above are legitimate competitions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted July 3, 2023 Report Share Posted July 3, 2023 1 hour ago, ExiledAjax said: Infantino is jealous that UEFA gets loads of money every season due to the Champions League (and other UEFA competitions). He thinks it's not right that FIFA only gets loads of money every four seasons when a world cup comes around. That's why he's expanding the Club World Cup. He wants a cash cow every season. No, of course we don't need more football. 1 hour ago, ScottishRed said: Crazy. What he means is that we need more football that generates money for FIFA / UEFA and of course himself. I love football, as I am sure most on here do, but it’s going to eat itself with people like him a n positions of power. He does of course need the money, the upkeep on that house in Qatar must be costly. Completely agree with you both. Even Blatter didn't push it quite this far. In certain bits of the world maybe he has a point to develop the game but focus it on the areas thst need it most. European football and South American Football doesn't need help and focus higher quality of competition on Africa, Asia, North America. UEFA however expanding the CL, the Nations League whixh has its merits especially for some lower countries who can rise the rankings winning vs more at their level but it's beyond saturated now the whole picture. Not picking on individual tournaments, what next an 8 tournament yo expand the Super cup between: The 3 European trophies And The 5 winners of the Domestic Cups. Two groups of 4, 2 semi finals, a final and a 3rd placed playoff. I made that up, but would you put it past them! Yet this isn't even a terrible tournament idea it's just the sheer quantity, beyond saturated. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sticks 1969 Posted July 3, 2023 Report Share Posted July 3, 2023 2 hours ago, Mr Popodopolous said: Club World Cup is growing in scope, 32 teams soon. Which btw is mad, Infantino said a little ago that we need more, much more football but do we?? 48 team World Cup 36 team with big group stages Champions Leagues Nations League in Europe and in on the North American zone 32 Team Club World Cup Euros up from 16 to 24. Group stages which didn't exist before in the CL, Europa League and Conference League..was straight knockout in the past. Went to EURO 92 in Sweden which was a 8 team tournament Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted July 3, 2023 Report Share Posted July 3, 2023 44 minutes ago, sticks 1969 said: Went to EURO 92 in Sweden which was a 8 team tournament Was thinking about this the other day. Europe and UEFA extended quite big time in the 1990s due to the break up of various countries so I suppose...but it's got out of hand last 5-10 years. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pezo Posted July 3, 2023 Report Share Posted July 3, 2023 I think they might do 3 or 4, they are in the final of 2 already and I think they will win them but I don't think they will do 3 on top of that. I can see them doing the league and the FA cup again though, I can't see any competition to them in the league next year at the moment which is a shame. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bcfc01 Posted July 4, 2023 Report Share Posted July 4, 2023 17 hours ago, BCFCGav said: I’m using the words honours and trophies interchangeably. Obviously some are more prestigious than others, but all three of the above are legitimate competitions. Community Shield is a one-off pre-season game. I wouldn't class that as a meaningful trophy. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneTeamInBristol Posted July 4, 2023 Report Share Posted July 4, 2023 Still got 3 to go to catch our Football League Trophy record though 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCFCGav Posted July 4, 2023 Author Report Share Posted July 4, 2023 21 minutes ago, bcfc01 said: Community Shield is a one-off pre-season game. I wouldn't class that as a meaningful trophy. Everyone has their own opinions. Man City counted it as one of the four in their 'fourmidables' season. It's not massive or anything but if you're in it, better to win it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted July 4, 2023 Report Share Posted July 4, 2023 13 minutes ago, BCFCGav said: Everyone has their own opinions. Man City counted it as one of the four in their 'fourmidables' season. It's not massive or anything but if you're in it, better to win it. It's just a pre season game. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCFCGav Posted July 4, 2023 Author Report Share Posted July 4, 2023 3 minutes ago, Super said: It's just a pre season game. Everyone has their own opinions. Man City counted it as one of the four in their 'fourmidables' season. It's not massive or anything but if you're in it, better to win it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fodbarmyarmy Posted July 4, 2023 Report Share Posted July 4, 2023 Never win the Gloucester cup Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledAjax Posted July 4, 2023 Report Share Posted July 4, 2023 (edited) 19 hours ago, BCFCGav said: I’m using the words honours and trophies interchangeably. Obviously some are more prestigious than others, but all three of the above are legitimate competitions. The Community Shield and Super Cup are exhibition matches. The achievement, prestige, and honour comes in qualifying to play in those games, but the games themselves are little more than friendlies - and that's all they should be. Pretty much on a par with the Johnson Cup or the South Gloucestershire Cup that we've won about 50 times. I'd personally not even bother with a trophy for them. The Club World Cup is a different kettle of fish, a purely transparent marketing ploy and money spinner that simply allows for the European team to rack up the air miles and have a couple of practice games. No fan I've ever met has ever said they dream of winning it or that they loved it when they did win it. It also gives FIFA a nice photo shoot in whichever country hosts it...checks notes...ah of course it's ******* Saudi Arabia this year. Brilliant. Wonderful. Truly an honour to win that then. Edited July 4, 2023 by ExiledAjax Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Distortia Posted July 4, 2023 Report Share Posted July 4, 2023 35 minutes ago, Super said: It's just a pre season game. By definition it’s a competitive fixture as you can’t play trialists. Your players have to be professionally registered. So while it’s clearly not a trophy of any great magnitude, to call it pre-season is being disingenuous. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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