Grey Fox Posted August 3, 2023 Report Share Posted August 3, 2023 57 minutes ago, W-S-M Seagull said: I don't know but I think @Grey Fox is the 1 person who thinks we'll get relegated. Absolutely not, top six with Alex Scott, mediocre mid table without. That’s why we need to keep him, very simple really 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grey Fox Posted August 3, 2023 Report Share Posted August 3, 2023 55 minutes ago, ExiledAjax said: True, true, that is imo equally ridiculous given we've been in no danger of relegation since "peak" Holden-ball, and we are probably stronger than we've been at anytime since then. @Grey Fox...really? Really ??? Simply no, I just want to rise above the mediocre, to match the “mighty” Bournemouth & Boscombe or Luton, even Brentford. Why is it so difficult to look up ? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garland-sweden Posted August 3, 2023 Report Share Posted August 3, 2023 Think we will be top six. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose Posted August 3, 2023 Report Share Posted August 3, 2023 I put 7-12. I think it’s a big season for Nige. Get a replacement in for Scott and no reason we can’t get in the Play offs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristol Rob Posted August 3, 2023 Report Share Posted August 3, 2023 I fully expect a load of confused reactions to the following but... For me, Alex Scott is replaceable - I will caveat this with, not someone with as much natural ability, but if I was told we had to lose one of Conway or Scott, it would be goodbye Alex. Is he exceptional? Yes. Will we see another 19 year old like him again? Probably not. I can see the goals from Tommy being a bigger gap to fill. Ideally, we would lose neither, but I'm not sold on AS being key to a successful season. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted August 3, 2023 Report Share Posted August 3, 2023 1 hour ago, Bristol Rob said: I fully expect a load of confused reactions to the following but... For me, Alex Scott is replaceable - I will caveat this with, not someone with as much natural ability, but if I was told we had to lose one of Conway or Scott, it would be goodbye Alex. Is he exceptional? Yes. Will we see another 19 year old like him again? Probably not. I can see the goals from Tommy being a bigger gap to fill. Ideally, we would lose neither, but I'm not sold on AS being key to a successful season. I kinda wrote something similar for a blog (and on here)….that Tommy’s goals might influence more results than Alex’s performances. That is not to play down the importance and star-ability of Scott, just than Alex could be MOTM and us not earn the 3 points. Just to reiterate - Alex is a superstar. Tommy is a point-getter! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Masked Man Posted August 3, 2023 Report Share Posted August 3, 2023 The positives are that you potentially have a team that is greater than the sum of its parts. The club has a clear identity, players are fit and the dressing room is happy. There are also a lot of options if the squad stays fit. The problem would be if we had a run of injuries in critical areas. City have a relatively good run of fixtures to start so if we get points on the board and keep a consistent first xi I don't see why the play offs aren't a possibility. Conversely if we were to wobble and pick up injuries mid table potentially more likely. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted August 3, 2023 Report Share Posted August 3, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, Bristol Rob said: I fully expect a load of confused reactions to the following but... For me, Alex Scott is replaceable - I will caveat this with, not someone with as much natural ability, but if I was told we had to lose one of Conway or Scott, it would be goodbye Alex. Is he exceptional? Yes. Will we see another 19 year old like him again? Probably not. I can see the goals from Tommy being a bigger gap to fill. Ideally, we would lose neither, but I'm not sold on AS being key to a successful season. I get it but all the intangible benefits that Alex Scott brings. That bit of time, space- the skill and ball carrying ability leading into ability to win fouls either in dangerous positions or perhaps to relieve pressure. The whole package is a very solid one- he needs to add some goals to his game however. Edited August 3, 2023 by Mr Popodopolous Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pillred Posted August 3, 2023 Report Share Posted August 3, 2023 6 hours ago, Grey Fox said: With Alex Scott , 5th, without Alex 15th. Do you really think he makes that much difference? some yes but come on 10 places! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BritAbroad Posted August 4, 2023 Report Share Posted August 4, 2023 I think 6th. If Alex goes, really depends on who replaces him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grey Fox Posted August 4, 2023 Report Share Posted August 4, 2023 7 hours ago, pillred said: Do you really think he makes that much difference? some yes but come on 10 places! 12 points between Coventry (70) in 5th and Hull (58) in 15th last season. There is not a lot of difference between the majority of well organised/ coached Championship sides, by having an exceptional player in your squad, that small difference can make big gains. And it’s not just Alex Scott, add Conway and Pring and you have the nucleus of a very good side. You also need to add some belief, by turning down the offers for Alex you provide the substance for that belief. Looking forward to tomorrow ️ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grey Fox Posted August 4, 2023 Report Share Posted August 4, 2023 6 hours ago, BritAbroad said: I think 6th. If Alex goes, really depends on who replaces him. Someone far less valuable, so therefore not as good, so that’s your answer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledAjax Posted May 5 Report Share Posted May 5 (edited) On 03/08/2023 at 17:05, ExiledAjax said: I've said it's a season where luck is gunna play a part. Hopefully we're lucky and get the penalties we deserve, hopefully we're lucky and get some deflections, some tackles that should be injuries aren't, hopefully it all works out. If it largely goes our way then 6th/7th is possible...if not then we'll be 12th or below. Hence I go 9th and cross my fingers. So two spots below what I guessed. One win away from getting it bob on. This thread is from before Scott was sold as well, although it's clear that many of us guessed that he would be going. Maybe we made our own bad luck with a slightly unnecessary managerial change in October. Still, apparently 66% called it correctly with a vote for the 7th - 12th range. On 03/08/2023 at 18:36, ExiledAjax said: Who on earth thinks we're going top 2. ******* hell. I stand by this though Edited May 5 by ExiledAjax Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
And Its Smith Posted May 5 Report Share Posted May 5 2 hours ago, ExiledAjax said: So two spots below what I guessed. One win away from getting it bob on. This thread is from before Scott was sold as well, although it's clear that many of us guessed that he would be going. Maybe we made our own bad luck with a slightly unnecessary managerial change in October. Still, apparently 66% called it correctly with a vote for the 7th - 12th range. I stand by this though There’s a big difference between 7th and 12th though in peoples summary of the season. I said 6th with Scott and 10-11th without if I remember rightly. He’s as big a loss as 4-5 places Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Balls Posted May 5 Report Share Posted May 5 On 03/08/2023 at 23:43, Davefevs said: I kinda wrote something similar for a blog (and on here)….that Tommy’s goals might influence more results than Alex’s performances. That is not to play down the importance and star-ability of Scott, just than Alex could be MOTM and us not earn the 3 points. Just to reiterate - Alex is a superstar. Tommy is a point-getter! Tommy’s goals did get us points, especially the number of penalties we were awarded as soon as Nige was dispensed with and our anti-Pearson embargo on penalties was lifted by the referees association. But from open play, we really lacked Scott the playmaker to set things up for Conway or Wells. Twine is a shadow of that but clearly a Manning favourite and might just get a few more goals than Scott. Overall 11th seems about right, especially as until yesterday Max and the defence had been at a playoff levels of performance and goals conceded. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedorDead BCFC Posted May 5 Report Share Posted May 5 17 minutes ago, And Its Smith said: There’s a big difference between 7th and 12th though in peoples summary of the season. I said 6th with Scott and 10-11th without if I remember rightly. He’s as big a loss as 4-5 places He’s been injured a lot this year, so getting the 25 million last year turned out the better option. (Other than him signing an extension) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted May 5 Report Share Posted May 5 1 hour ago, Dr Balls said: Tommy’s goals did get us points, especially the number of penalties we were awarded as soon as Nige was dispensed with and our anti-Pearson embargo on penalties was lifted by the referees association. But from open play, we really lacked Scott the playmaker to set things up for Conway or Wells. Twine is a shadow of that but clearly a Manning favourite and might just get a few more goals than Scott. Overall 11th seems about right, especially as until yesterday Max and the defence had been at a playoff levels of performance and goals conceded. I wasn’t far off was I re Tommy getting us points. Didn’t expect it to be from the spot though, neither did they need to be stonewallers either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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