gibbo7 Posted August 30, 2023 Report Share Posted August 30, 2023 Just seen that Massengo is going to join Burnley in the next couple of days so is this the unexpected extra funds we may need to at least release some kind of extra funding for at least one signing? For a window that started so promising it seems to be one which has left us very lacking in terms of goals and that creative spark needed to break a line in home games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
95red Posted August 30, 2023 Report Share Posted August 30, 2023 Blimey your quick off the mark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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gibbo7 Posted August 30, 2023 Author Report Share Posted August 30, 2023 Seems our minds have to be fast as the clubs currently isn’t. Whilst I see we have a more balance squad, left to right, unfortunately it’s not so balanced front to back. we may have cover for each position but I don’t feel any offer creativity (Knight could prove me wrong). Weimann isn’t the man when fit. well yes we have 2 players for all positions within the current formation. We have zero players with that creative link and the workload on nahki is surely too much. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo Posted August 30, 2023 Report Share Posted August 30, 2023 How much we will get if this Burnley deal happens? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oh Louie louie Posted August 30, 2023 Report Share Posted August 30, 2023 1 minute ago, Tomo said: How much we will get if this Burnley deal happens? As normal fk all Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frenchred Posted August 30, 2023 Report Share Posted August 30, 2023 6 minutes ago, Tomo said: How much we will get if this Burnley deal happens? Nothing, just plump up Lansdown's nest egg 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo Posted August 30, 2023 Report Share Posted August 30, 2023 Get Michael Obafemi on loan as part of our compensation? Just thinking of CF cover whilst Tommy is out? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oh Louie louie Posted August 30, 2023 Report Share Posted August 30, 2023 Even if we get a million, we won't see a penny reinvested in players, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numero Uno Posted August 30, 2023 Report Share Posted August 30, 2023 7 minutes ago, Tomo said: Get Michael Obafemi on loan as part of our compensation? Just thinking of CF cover whilst Tommy is out? Massengo to Burnley and Obafemi to us with no compo paid, no loan fee and a lower proportion of his wages? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numero Uno Posted August 30, 2023 Report Share Posted August 30, 2023 Not sure what’s confusing &Tomo, we haven’t got a pot to piss in wages wise, they have to pay compo and we have to pay a loan fee if we want the lad obviously. Surely a deal could be struck that suits all parties? Bear in mind Massengo could wait a couple of weeks and we get nothing anyway as I understand it from reading on here today? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numero Uno Posted August 30, 2023 Report Share Posted August 30, 2023 17 minutes ago, frenchred said: Nothing, just plump up Lansdown's nest egg For Michael Appleton to waste…… 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo Posted August 30, 2023 Report Share Posted August 30, 2023 (edited) 26 minutes ago, Numero Uno said: Not sure what’s confusing &Tomo, we haven’t got a pot to piss in wages wise, they have to pay compo and we have to pay a loan fee if we want the lad obviously. Surely a deal could be struck that suits all parties? Bear in mind Massengo could wait a couple of weeks and we get nothing anyway as I understand it from reading on here today? Not confused mate - it's more of a 'this could be a deal worth looking at' if Burnley sign Han-Noah, Reported Wages of Michael Obafemi is just under £13k a week. Not sure how accurate that is obviously, but it would be reasonable Centre Forward cover for a season. His contract is up in June 2024 with Burnley, so he was only given a short deal. https://www.capology.com/player/michael-obafemi-36713/ Edited August 30, 2023 by Tomo 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bcfc01 Posted August 30, 2023 Report Share Posted August 30, 2023 All is explained in the Massengo thread - compo, timings, etc. Isn't Obafemi out injured ? Thought I'd read that he tore a hamstring pre-season ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo Posted August 30, 2023 Report Share Posted August 30, 2023 Shame - :laugh:! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numero Uno Posted August 30, 2023 Report Share Posted August 30, 2023 11 minutes ago, Tomo said: Not confused mate - it's more of a 'this could be a deal worth looking at' if Burnley sign Han-Noah, Reported Wages of Michael Obafemi is just under £13k a week. Not sure how accurate that is obviously, but it would be reasonable Centre Forward cover for a season. His contract is up in June 2024 with Burnely, so he was only given a short deal. https://www.capology.com/player/michael-obafemi-36713/ I’m sure those numbers could very easily be “manipulated” so that compo, a loan fee and %age of wages suits both clubs. ………if Nige has any interest in the player of course. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northern Red Posted August 30, 2023 Report Share Posted August 30, 2023 If receiving £25m won't allow us to spend more, what difference will an extra million (estimate) make? 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sniper Posted August 30, 2023 Report Share Posted August 30, 2023 13 minutes ago, bcfc01 said: All is explained in the Massengo thread - compo, timings, etc. Isn't Obafemi out injured ? Thought I'd read that he tore a hamstring pre-season ? If he rocks up here it won't be too long until he tears the other one as well. 2 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henry Posted August 30, 2023 Report Share Posted August 30, 2023 no. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numero Uno Posted August 30, 2023 Report Share Posted August 30, 2023 2 minutes ago, Northern Red said: If receiving £25m won't allow us to spend more, what difference will an extra million (estimate) make? If you’re only paying 10% of the lads wages and make the other two numbers suit so that both clubs get what they think they are “owed”, it isn’t a big hit on the wage bill which we are told (by Nige obviously as nobody above him has the ability to speak) is the stumbling block to signing new players? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo Posted August 30, 2023 Report Share Posted August 30, 2023 (edited) The Michael Obafemi was just a suggestion but I didn't realise he was injured to be fair. Burnley probably won't play him anyway when he's fit. He was only given a 1 year contract which tells me he was only signed for back up... Edited August 30, 2023 by Tomo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superjack Posted August 30, 2023 Report Share Posted August 30, 2023 24 minutes ago, Numero Uno said: For Michael Appleton to waste…… Oh ****. I hadn't even thought of him. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numero Uno Posted August 30, 2023 Report Share Posted August 30, 2023 1 minute ago, Tomo said: The Michael Obafemi was just a suggestion but I didn't realise he was injured to be fair. Burnley probably won't play him anyway when he's fit. He was only give a 1 year contract which tells me he was only signed for back up... If he’s injured then that ***** it!!! Do they have any other decent players surplus to immediate requirements? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
38MC Posted August 30, 2023 Report Share Posted August 30, 2023 2 hours ago, gibbo7 said: Just seen that Massengo is going to join Burnley in the next couple of days so is this the unexpected extra funds we may need to at least release some kind of extra funding for at least one signing? For a window that started so promising it seems to be one which has left us very lacking in terms of goals and that creative spark needed to break a line in home games. Seeing as we just sold a kid for a £25m pure profit and won’t spend, the compensation from massengo will be like piss in a full bath. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numero Uno Posted August 30, 2023 Report Share Posted August 30, 2023 1 minute ago, 38MC said: Seeing as we just sold a kid for a £25m pure profit and won’t spend, the compensation from massengo will be like piss in a full bath. Perhaps I’ve got this wrong but the message I’m reading isn’t the fee paid but that we are on 99% or whatever of wage budget and the two items seem to be completely separate for whatever reason? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
38MC Posted August 30, 2023 Report Share Posted August 30, 2023 1 minute ago, Numero Uno said: Perhaps I’ve got this wrong but the message I’m reading isn’t the fee paid but that we are on 99% or whatever of wage budget and the two items seem to be completely separate for whatever reason? Yeah wage limit is the reason, but budgets are usually flexed and revisited when there is a large influx of capital. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numero Uno Posted August 30, 2023 Report Share Posted August 30, 2023 1 minute ago, 38MC said: Yeah wage limit is the reason, but budgets are usually flexed and revisited when there is a large influx of capital. Not on this occasion it seems!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozo Posted August 30, 2023 Report Share Posted August 30, 2023 Lansdown would love to invest millions for players, he really would, but unfortunately he can't exceed the arbitrary and unnecessary wage budget which he decided to put in place. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
38MC Posted August 30, 2023 Report Share Posted August 30, 2023 Just now, Numero Uno said: Not on this occasion it seems!! If it’s because we want investment it’s shortsighted I think. Whilst the FFP headroom might seem attractive for a new investor, is it really when your team are languishing at the bottom of the table and you think it’s probably going to take you a huge investment and gamble… or better to take a team having a decent bit of FFP headroom which is competing already… you can’t invest eyewatering amounts, but can still give it a go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tin Posted August 30, 2023 Report Share Posted August 30, 2023 16 minutes ago, mozo said: Lansdown would love to invest millions for players, he really would, but unfortunately he can't exceed the arbitrary and unnecessary wage budget which he decided to put in place. See my post on the other thread: if the wage budget was set in March when Scott was a BCFC player, why was there no plan in place to increase the budget when Scott was sold? I do not understand why SL, who’s made billions from financial services, cannot plan for various scenarios and kick those plans into action when needed. It’s mental. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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