Dave Rennie

[hinsleburg]

Thought he deserved his own thread, I appreciate this may turn into an 'injury crisis' discussion which I don't want  but really don't think that's down to any individuals. 

What he has done though is made us as a squad fitter over 90 minutes,  we run more, we run longer and we run harder. (Got no metrics so only going off the eye...)

I've loved watching him in the videos, doing the tour with new signings before murdering them with running with a big grin on his face.

Talking to somebody senior at another club who said we've introduced loads of new technology and use different metrics behind the scenes since Rennie arrived which other clubs have been trying to copy and replicate. Whenever people refer to Nige as a dinosaur I always point out that the person he puts the most faith in is the Science, modern thinking Rennie.

I think we will miss him and seems a thoroughly good bloke 

[Numero Uno]

Crayon Boy will have a cunning plan, don't you worry.

[SecretSam]

He's almost as big a loss as Pearson. I despair.

[tin]

36 minutes ago, SecretSam said:

He's almost as big a loss as Pearson. I despair.

Agreed. A real specialist in his field who we were very lucky to have. 

While we have 12 players out currently, only one of them is non-contact and could be pointed at him if someone wanted to use that as a stick to beat him with. 

[GrahamC]

Absolutely.

Frustrated by the number of injuries at present but still recognise this bloke was a leader in his field.

He was the only staff member who was also a mate of Nige’s, even more than Curtis, so was never sticking around after he was sacked.

Another legacy of our blundering owner.

[RoystonFoote'snephew]

21 minutes ago, tin said:

Agreed. A real specialist in his field who we were very lucky to have. 

While we have 12 players out currently, only one of them is non-contact and could be pointed at him if someone wanted to use that as a stick to beat him with. 

Totally agree. No fitness coach can legislate for contact injuries. It's testament to his, regime that our fitness levels gave improved significantly and that hamstring and groin strain injuries are kept to a minimum 

[Davefevs]

As I’ve mentioned before I met up with Rennie over the summer, just before they headed off to Austria.

The bloke is class.  The detail they go into on everything, not just physical data is the complete opposite of a dinosaur leading it.

I think he will be a big loss.

[Davefevs]

Just heard Paddy Orme going too.  Think it’s unrelated as they advertised for a job fitting his role last month.

[Olé]

50 minutes ago, Davefevs said:

As I’ve mentioned before I met up with Rennie over the summer, just before they headed off to Austria.

The bloke is class.  The detail they go into on everything, not just physical data is the complete opposite of a dinosaur leading it.

I think he will be a big loss.

He and Orme (and Euell at times) were visibly also very active in the work Matt Parsons organises at away games to deliver excess food to homeless shelters - and Rennie was clearly more to the squad than just the medical guy. Again very visible in videos how much he helped build the culture with NP where staff put an arm around and take an interest in players and do so with a smile on their face.

As people with no prior affiliation to Bristol let alone our club, Pearson and Rennie bought into everything about BCFC and the area and what it means to represent us and act with class and integrity in building a positive culture. This could be posted in any one of countless threads but the contrast and juxtaposition with the total absence of class from the Lansdown family in handling this is quite jarring. 

 

[David Brent]

He always appeared in the ‘first day as a Robin’ videos after a new signing had arrived.

Always spoke so well and was a great introduction to the club

[lenred]

It just beggars belief.   What a ******* absolute shambles….

[Northern Red]

There was a bit in one of the new signing videos in the summer (think it was McCrorie) where Rennie is talking to the player and says something like "it's taken us 2 years to get it how we want it here".

It was evident from those videos how much of a role he plays, beyond pure fitness and medical work, and he leaves a huge hole to fill.

 

 

[Lorenzos Only Goal]

It's a shit show this is all.

Euell is gone too and he's a massive reason for the academy players getting better.

This is a regressive step.

[Merrick's Marvels]

Seldom, if ever, have we employed so many eminently qualified people on our Coaching staff.

And now they're leaving in droves just because the owner's a thin skinned baby.

Back to the blaggers, bullshitters, no-marks and quacks we go - pitiful.

Amateur hour at its finest. Yet again.

Edited October 30, 2023 by Merrick's Marvels

[Roger Red Hat]

1 hour ago, Davefevs said:

Paddy Orme

Who he?

[Olé]

12 minutes ago, Merrick's Marvels said:

Seldom, if ever, have we employed so many eminently qualified people on our Coaching staff.

Ad now they're leaving in droves just because the owner's a thin skinned baby.

Again, I could post this in any number of threads at the moment as it's not specific to Rennie or Euell, but I have absolutely no idea what Lansdown wants anymore. 

If he desperately wanted a head coach in a structure that offers stability and succession surely having so many qualified people around Pearson including a highly rated coach like Euell is the perfect platform for that. It's not clear if Euell was also binned off or was offered a role and stuck two fingers up out of loyalty to Pearson (would make some sense), but either way for Lansdown to clearly want a change but preside over such ham-fisted mismanagement of the transition to whatever it is he actually wants, beggars belief.

You can't have stability and succession if you take such clumsy, classless and pre-meditated decisions, and you won't develop good young coaches if you keep torpedoing the first sign of a culture of leadership from the top of your footballing staff that is successfully relaying priceless experience into your leaders of the future (I would include King in that too). Put together with statements about how he wants to run the club, Lansdown no longer strikes me as a rational owner with any agenda besides for his own indulgence.

As such, it's not simply the case (as I've seen written elsewhere) of fans starting to ask questions. It's far far beyond that. For me it's now urgent that the club is sold and we move on from his fantasy and delusion before the next 3 year reset, and sensible fans must do everything in their power to agitate for this. This isn't simply out of deference to NP, but recognising something much more rotten is at play if you consider SL's inconsistency, invisibility and slightly sinister priorities in his decision making over the past 7 years.

The ineptness of now falling out with and losing an experienced CEO and then an experienced manager within five weeks is just the bottom of the barrel. 

[tin]

8 minutes ago, Olé said:

Again, I could post this in any number of threads at the moment as it's not specific to Rennie or Euell, but I have absolutely no idea what Lansdown wants anymore. 

If he desperately wanted a head coach in a structure that offers stability and succession surely having so many qualified people around Pearson including a highly rated coach like Euell is the perfect platform for that. It's not clear if Euell was also binned off or was offered a role and stuck two fingers up out of loyalty to Pearson (would make some sense), but either way for Lansdown to clearly want a change but preside over such ham-fisted mismanagement of the transition to whatever it is he actually wants, beggars belief.

You can't have stability and succession if you take such clumsy, classless and pre-meditated decisions, and you won't develop good young coaches if you keep torpedoing the first sign of a culture of leadership from the top of your footballing staff that is successfully relaying priceless experience into your leaders of the future (I would include King in that too). Put together with statements about how he wants to run the club, Lansdown no longer strikes me as a rational owner with any agenda besides for his own indulgence.

As such, it's not simply the case (as I've seen written elsewhere) of fans starting to ask questions. It's far far beyond that. For me it's now urgent that the club is sold and we move on from his fantasy and delusion before the next 3 year reset, and sensible fans must do everything in their power to agitate for this. This isn't simply out of deference to NP, but recognising something much more rotten is at play if you consider SL's inconsistency, invisibility and slightly sinister priorities in his decision making over the past 7 years.

The ineptness of now falling out with and losing an experienced CEO and then an experienced manager within five weeks is just the bottom of the barrel. 

Absolutely excellent post, @Olé. Agree with all of that and it’s vital we try and force change of ownership. The lies, the lack of communication, the contempt with how they treat us, the lack of a clear strategy. 

It’s easy (and lazy) to talk about wanting to be a PL club, but in order to make that happen a lot of things need to be in place, and they go way beyond the stadium and training ground. The only thing about the ridiculously named HPC was Rennie. 

Everything they do off the pitch couldn’t be further from PL. That’s down to the Lansdowns and the decisions they’ve made. There’s two decades of evidence and things will only get worse with JL’s influence. 

People often talk about apathy at Bristol City. Maybe that’s why the Lansdowns have had it easy for two decades. “It’s my club and I’ll do what I want”. It’s time to remind them it’s our club and their time is up. 

[Merrick's Marvels]

1 hour ago, Olé said:

you won't develop good young coaches if you keep torpedoing the first sign of a culture of leadership from the top of your footballing staff that is successfully relaying priceless experience into your leaders of the future (I would include King in that too).

This is the bit that gets my goat more than anything.

If you're running a club with such an emphasis on bringing kids through into the 1st team - along with buying lower league players unproven at Champ level but with potential - what you need is someone expert at culture-building, man management, leadership, someone with cast iron authority but also empathy.  

This was Pearson's greatest strength. And he was developing some of his Coaches in the same way, too.

Andi Weimann's Twitter confirms it - "I have learned so much from working with you... not only as a player but as a person and a leader". How many players said that when previous Lansdown appointments departed??? Oh yeah - none. 

And we've binned him off. I despair. Gary Rowett renowned for developing young players, is he?  Your Millwall mates must be laughing.        

Yes, our home form could be better. Yes, Pearson's a grouchy so-and-so. But not to give him a fair crack of the whip - the same time and backing as other managers that have been indulged here -  stinks to high heaven. 

I see S82 are fundraising for new banners - they won't be short of suggestions for what to write on 'em!  

Edited October 30, 2023 by Merrick's Marvels

[Davefevs]

1 hour ago, Roger Red Hat said:

Who he?

Strength and Conditioning chap.  The guy who leads the warm-up on every Robins Uncut video, booming voice.  Often photographed with Rennie and Matt Parsons delivering food parcels.

3 minutes ago, Merrick's Marvels said:

This is the bit that gets my goat more than anything.

If you're running a club with such an emphasis on bringing kids through into the 1st team - along with buying lower league players unproven at Cham level but with potential - what you need is someone expert at culture-setting, man management, leadership, someone with cast iron authority but also empathy.  

This was Pearson's greatest strength. 

And we've binned him off. I despair. 

Gary Rowett renowned for developing young players, is he?         

Yes, our home form could be better. Yes, Pearson's a grouchy so-and-so. But not to give him a fair crack of the whip - the same time and backing as other managers that have been indulged here -  stinks to high heaven. 

I see S82 are fundraising for new banners - they won't be short of suggestions for what to write on 'em!  

I think he’s done fine in this respect at Millwall:

• Danny McNamara - homegrown 
• Billy Mitchell - homegrown
• Romain Esse - homegrown
• Aidamo Emakhu - Shamrock but young
• Tyler Burey - homegrown
• Ben Thompson - homegrown

Don’t get me wrong it’s not Nige levels, but it’s reasonable.  Has used young player loan market ok too.  Dan Ballard for example from Arsenal, Cresswell from Leeds etc.

 

[Merrick's Marvels]

3 minutes ago, Davefevs said:

Strength and Conditioning chap.  The guy who leads the warm-up on every Robins Uncut video, booming voice.  Often photographed with Rennie and Matt Parsons delivering food parcels.

I think he’s done fine in this respect at Millwall:

• Danny McNamara - homegrown 
• Billy Mitchell - homegrown
• Romain Esse - homegrown
• Aidamo Emakhu - Shamrock but young
• Tyler Burey - homegrown
• Ben Thompson - homegrown

Don’t get me wrong it’s not Nige levels, but it’s reasonable.  Has used young player loan market ok too.  Dan Ballard for example from Arsenal, Cresswell from Leeds etc.

 

Then it's going to be him!

Good god almighty.

[Davefevs]

8 minutes ago, Merrick's Marvels said:

Then it's going to be him!

Good god almighty.

I’ve heard a few things that it’s gonna be Rowett, but then I’m surprised the bookies don’t have him odds-on by now.  So who knows?

[Silvio Dante]

Now said his goodbyes on Twitter. 

 

[cidercity1987]

These guys should have been the bedrock of our club for 10 years. Been there , done it, not looking for a forward step to a bigger club , just to enjoy life/work and drag this club up.

I'm still in shock

[Baldyman]

So if our physio has gone , who have we got treating the injured players at the moment ? Presumably Scotty is sorting them all out with a wet sponge and a couple of cans of Natch ??? 

[italian dave]

3 minutes ago, Baldyman said:

So if our physio has gone , who have we got treating the injured players at the moment ? Presumably Scotty is sorting them all out with a wet sponge and a couple of cans of Natch ??? 

We seemed to get fewer injuries when that was the way it was sorted out

[Lrrr]

5 minutes ago, Baldyman said:

So if our physio has gone , who have we got treating the injured players at the moment ? Presumably Scotty is sorting them all out with a wet sponge and a couple of cans of Natch ??? 

Still have Proctor around who is lead physio and other physios, Rennie was head of medical performance so physio department was working under his remit but hasn’t been affected numbers wise by him departing 

[Davefevs]

2 minutes ago, Lrrr said:

Still have Proctor around who is lead physio and other physios, Rennie was head of medical performance so physio department was working under his remit but hasn’t been affected numbers wise by him departing 

Orme still around too to take the sessions.  Holt, Bonsu etc still around too.

[cheese]

11 minutes ago, Baldyman said:

So if our physio has gone , who have we got treating the injured players at the moment ? Presumably Scotty is sorting them all out with a wet sponge and a couple of cans of Natch ??? 

Can't be any worse than what they have been doing!  And anyway, always worked for me when I played footie.  A fag at half-time also helped a second half boost!

[Red-Robbo]

Was Rennie sacked or did he walk over the removal of Pearson? 

It seems bizarre to remove the head of medical performance,  unless you are somehow blaming him for the injury list.

Are our injries worse than other Championship clubs at this stage if the season? Or does it just seem more of an issue due to the slenderness of the senior squad?

[chinapig]

18 minutes ago, Baldyman said:

So if our physio has gone , who have we got treating the injured players at the moment ? Presumably Scotty is sorting them all out with a wet sponge and a couple of cans of Natch ??? 

Since Tinnion seems to think he knows more about fitness, conditioning and injuries perhaps he will add the job to his portfolio?

Given he is calling all the shots he might as well be head coach as well.