Forever Bristol City Podcast - BLACKBURN [A] the verdict .... we played well for 20 minutes then he changed it!!

[Curr Avon]

DaveP hosts a review of the game with Dave Fevs, Ian Gay & Mark Tovey.

Is our new boss trying to change too much too soon?

 

Edited December 14, 2023 by Curr Avon

[Engvall’s Splinter]

Wish @Davefevs would have taken Ian to task more during their live face off. Felt it was a missed opportunity. 
 

For a seasoned presenter @headhunterdoesnt half jump in before people have finished their point. 

[Merrick's Marvels]

16 minutes ago, Engvall’s Splinter said:

Wish @Davefevs would have taken Ian to task more during their live face off. Felt it was a missed opportunity. 
 

For a seasoned presenter @headhunterdoesnt half jump in before people have finished their point. 

"Seasoned presenter"?

Of what?

[Bobtherobin]

Really enjoyed this episode and thought Dave Fevs was excellent on it; both in terms of the analysis of the more nuanced tactical stuff, and in challenging Ian when he basically said its Nige's fault for getting sacked. Its a shame that debate didn't get a bit more space, because I have a feeling that the Pearson decision is going to put us back in League 1 sooner than a lot of people think so it needs to be fully unpicked....maybe we can have round 2 soon. 

[2015]

Just now, Ryan said:

Really enjoyed this episode and thought Dave Fevs was excellent on it; both in terms of the analysis of the more nuanced tactical stuff, and in challenging Ian when he basically said its Nige's fault for getting sacked. Its a shame that debate didn't get a bit more space, because I have a feeling that the Pearson decision is going to put us back in League 1 sooner than a lot of people think so it needs to be fully unpicked....maybe we can have round 2 soon. 

Ian is in denial and it's hilarious, he will spin anything going forward now to make out it's Nigel's fault. I have listened to the pod for the past 3 years and he never gave Nige a chance when he took the job despite taking over arguably one of the worst City's teams in the last 25 years. 

Fans like him have got what they wanted, they better hope LM succeeds.

 

[firstdivision]

Ian is a good broadcaster/podcaster:  good diction, nice turn of phrase, and articulate with a clearly argued point of view. He makes me laugh, not necessarily because he’s trying to be funny but because he’s so irascible and opinionated. He’s the best aspect of the podcast, even if you disagree with his opinions. I too would liked to have heard more of Ian discussing matters with Dave F. 

[Bobtherobin]

14 minutes ago, firstdivision said:

Ian is a good broadcaster/podcaster:  good diction, nice turn of phrase, and articulate with a clearly argued point of view. He makes me laugh, not necessarily because he’s trying to be funny but because he’s so irascible and opinionated. He’s the best aspect of the podcast, even if you disagree with his opinions. I too would liked to have heard more of Ian discussing matters with Dave F. 

I agree - he is good value. I dont agree with much of what he says but always enjoy it. 

[Rocking Red Cyril]

Thanks guys 

[Engvall’s Splinter]

1 hour ago, Merrick's Marvels said:

"Seasoned presenter"?

Of what?

Pretty sure previously he worked on local radio. 

[exAtyeoMax]

@Davefevs made me laugh listening to Kieran Maguire on Price of Football earlier this evening talking about a dog fight with FIFA, "I've not got a dog in the fight, but I have got a spreadsheet!"

[Davefevs]

56 minutes ago, firstdivision said:

Ian is a good broadcaster/podcaster:  good diction, nice turn of phrase, and articulate with a clearly argued point of view. He makes me laugh, not necessarily because he’s trying to be funny but because he’s so irascible and opinionated. He’s the best aspect of the podcast, even if you disagree with his opinions. I too would liked to have heard more of Ian discussing matters with Dave F. 

I wish he’d stop using the term midget!!!

[Rocking Red Cyril]

One thing struck me from the pod cast and mentioned couple of times on other threads post Blackburn. Is how wells - Naismith both indicated how confused the players looked particularly in the first half.

A bit scary if you ask me 

[Merrick's Marvels]

31 minutes ago, Engvall’s Splinter said:

Pretty sure previously he worked on local radio. 

Yes, I know. The poor man's Phil Tottle with a shit porno tash. Nothing more than a bloke on the radio reporting on what we'd just been watching. Not that anyone listened to gwr anyway. 

But "seasoned presenter"? Of what?

[firstdivision]

33 minutes ago, Davefevs said:

I wish he’d stop using the term midget!!!

Agree.

[REDOXO]

1 hour ago, firstdivision said:

Ian is a good broadcaster/podcaster:  good diction, nice turn of phrase, and articulate with a clearly argued point of view. He makes me laugh, not necessarily because he’s trying to be funny but because he’s so irascible and opinionated. He’s the best aspect of the podcast, even if you disagree with his opinions. I too would liked to have heard more of Ian discussing matters with Dave F. 

Yep. That’s what makes the poddy work a lot of the time. Ian is right about 70% of the time. But sometimes he talks some utter shit that makes people come back, just to hear what bollox he’s going to say next!

His dislike and constant calls for Pearson to be fired were laughable and the others would follow at arms length. 
 

I’m sure this bloke (Manning) will get backed by Ian relentlessly as he is all about the I told you so moment! Bless him!

[The turtle]

Do you know the dumbest part!

We just so happen to be missing a quality, creative attacking midfielder. I mean who knew!!!

They also cost money, i mean who knew!!

....

Before "the change" while it often wasn't pretty. They were tactics built to suit the players available. (And yes sometimes it went too far, see over the top for bell in a way too predictable way) with an understanding it was a building block to bigger and better future. Even if in reality it was one step back from last year due to creativity lost.

 

Since "the change*  Up to this point, we've exposed our very own weaknesses more than we've affected positive change.  We have control, we seem to be in the game.... And then chaos chimes in and the games got away. (The is not by chance)

I'd like to think... LM has seen with the current players available, in our best parts of games, whether it be counter v Southampton, or plan B v Blackburn... The success was in forward intent football NOT control. But he's so embedded to control I suspect he'll live or die by it. (And that's where the accusation of changing too much in one go comes in)

Time will tell.

 

Edited December 14, 2023 by The turtle

[Jimmo]

Highlight of the podcast for me was seeing Tovey's reactions to being ignored when putting his hand up to speak.

[Admiral Blake]

Dave often talks over Mark.

[Davefevs]

1 hour ago, The turtle said:

Do you know the dumbest part!

We just so happen to be missing a quality, creative attacking midfielder. I mean who knew!!!

They also cost money, i mean who knew!!

....

Before "the change" while it often wasn't pretty. They were tactics built to suit the players available. (And yes sometimes it went too far, see over the top for bell in a way too predictable way) with an understanding it was a building block to bigger and better future. Even if in reality it was one step back from last year due to creativity lost.

 

Since "the change*  Up to this point, we've exposed our very own weaknesses more than we've affected positive change.  We have control, we seem to be in the game.... And then chaos chimes in and the games got away. (The is not by chance)

I'd like to think... LM has seen with the current players available, in our best parts of games, whether it be counter v Southampton, or plan B v Blackburn... The success was in forward intent football NOT control. But he's so embedded to control I suspect he'll live or die by it. (And that's where the accusation of changing too much in one go comes in)

Time will tell.

 

Very interesting thoughts TT, especially the bit in bold.  I’m intrigued to see how this plays out.

[W-S-M Seagull]

By comparison I just went and listened to the 3 peeps podcast. The difference is night and day. They may aswell just hand the podcast over to JL and BT, the output would be the same. 

 

It's almost as if they have Barton sat there telling them what to say. 

There is definitely an emphasis on positives on that pod and that its firmly the players that are to blame and not the management. 

Edited December 15, 2023 by W-S-M Seagull

[headhunter]

10 hours ago, Merrick's Marvels said:

Yes, I know. The poor man's Phil Tottle with a shit porno tash. Nothing more than a bloke on the radio reporting on what we'd just been watching. Not that anyone listened to gwr anyway. 

But "seasoned presenter"? Of what?

Goodness me, you've a good memory!! I had that from 1981-1999 . Poor man's Phil Tottle - now that is an insult. You're not an ex-candidate of mine that I didn't include on a shortlist for a role you applied for, hence the veiled personal insults.

10 hours ago, REDOXO said:

Yep. That’s what makes the poddy work a lot of the time. Ian is right about 70% of the time. But sometimes he talks some utter shit that makes people come back, just to hear what bollox he’s going to say next!

Ian was described as a "spouting Hobbit" in one of the comments on our You Tube channel . He's our Piers Morgan - love him or hate him!!!

4 minutes ago, W-S-M Seagull said:

By comparison I just went and listened to the 3 peeps podcast. The difference is night and day. They may as well just hand the podcast over to JL and BT, the output would be the same. 

It's almost as if they have Barton sat there telling them what to say. 

There is definitely an emphasis on positives on that pod. 

And that is the difference between us and them - you can't run with the hare & chase with the hounds. Oh the joy of independence & free speech!!!

[Curr Avon]

9 hours ago, Jimmo said:

Highlight of the podcast for me was seeing Tovey's reactions to being ignored when putting his hand up to speak.

Thanks Dad. I'll be round in the morning.

[Sheltons Army]

17 minutes ago, headhunter said:

Goodness me, you've a good memory!! I had that from 1981-1999 . Poor man's Phil Tottle - now that is an insult. You're not an ex-candidate of mine that I didn't include on a shortlist for a role you applied for, hence the veiled personal insults.

Ian was described as a "spouting Hobbit" in one of the comments on our You Tube channel . He's our Piers Morgan - love him or hate him!!!

And that is the difference between us and them - you can't run with the hare & chase with the hounds. Oh the joy of independence & free speech!!!

Your hosting skills are very good Dave

I thought you hosted / controlled  this one with the proper debate going on particularly well.

Ive never done it but I’m absolutely sure it’s like commentating , something that is a lot harder to do than it looks to anyone who’s not tried it.

 

[frenchred]

11 hours ago, Merrick's Marvels said:

Yes, I know. The poor man's Phil Tottle with a shit porno tash. Nothing more than a bloke on the radio reporting on what we'd just been watching. Not that anyone listened to gwr anyway. 

But "seasoned presenter"? Of what?

You sound like a scorned lover

[Beni71]

A good episode. @Davefevs made a big difference in providing an analytical perspective on what happened on the pitch rather than just the emotional view on the match. 
 

Would have liked the debate play out with Ian and Dave. Agree with comments above that Ian will back LM till the cows come home due to his dislike for NP. 

[Davefevs]

29 minutes ago, Beni71 said:

A good episode. @Davefevs made a big difference in providing an analytical perspective on what happened on the pitch rather than just the emotional view on the match. 
 

Would have liked the debate play out with Ian and Dave. Agree with comments above that Ian will back LM till the cows come home due to his dislike for NP. 

Are you suggesting I’m the Liam Manning of pods, boring!!!

[W-S-M Seagull]

6 minutes ago, Davefevs said:

Are you suggesting I’m the Liam Manning of pods, boring!!!

No, you're more like NP, when you talk, people listen. Even Ian! 

Manning sends a lot of us to sleep. 

[Mr Popodopolous]

I remember a few weeks ago I queried possibly due to Ian on Manning the full Independence of FBC. Not independence in a bought off way more like independence in too quick to instinctively defend a club position.

Listened to a few since, happy to say I was wrong- ofders a good range of views, the club leaning one is definitely 3 Peaps.

[Beni71]

3 hours ago, Davefevs said:

Are you suggesting I’m the Liam Manning of pods, boring!!!

@Davefevs I don’t think you looked at your feet once when talking, so no!!

[REDOXO]

5 hours ago, frenchred said:

You sound like a scorned lover

God knows what that tash tickled!