Davefevs Posted January 5 Report Share Posted January 5 26 minutes ago, sh1t_ref_again said: The issue is protectionism, the PL clubs have an equal vote for any changes to the PL, so they have always tried to ensure if anyone falls out of the cushy little club they have a massive advantage to come straight back up, therefore protecting themselves. PL was always about greed of the bigger clubs and 2 fingers to football in general, that's what made me laugh at the clubs kicking off over a super league, when in effect it was exactly what the PL did. Always said only way is to introduce wage reductions into contracts to bring relegated clubs wages in line with Champ Agree, conceptually you have to make it MANDATORY for all contracts 25 minutes ago, Mr Popodopolous said: They have wage reductions, just not big enough. The issue at the moment is: Player A offered £100k p.w. Little PL club wants to insert 40% relegation reduction. Bigger PL club doesn’t bother. Who does the player sign for, all other things being equal? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sh1t_ref_again Posted January 5 Report Share Posted January 5 17 minutes ago, Mr Popodopolous said: True. Albeit the problem there is that if you cut wages 70-75% it makes it easier to retain on one level, and harder on others, players signed in the PL thereby potentially weakening the competitive balance. 12 minutes ago, Davefevs said: Agree, conceptually you have to make it MANDATORY for all contracts The issue at the moment is: Player A offered £100k p.w. Little PL club wants to insert 40% relegation reduction. Bigger PL club doesn’t bother. Who does the player sign for, all other things being equal? 12 minutes ago, Davefevs said: The top teams will always get the pick of the players, it may make it a little more difficult for the bottom end to recruit, maybe less players coming in from foreign teams, so likely some re-alignment, but they will still not have problem getting players to showcase themselves in the prem. Even if the differential was significantly reduced to a point where PL teams relegated are given a bit more room in the first 2 years on FFP, so can pay slightly higher wages out of the the money they made from the prem, without the need for PP Would need to be enforced that all new contract contain a relegation clause, maybe players would also need to negotiate a release clause that they can be sold with a bid above x value 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted January 5 Report Share Posted January 5 1 hour ago, sh1t_ref_again said: Would need to be enforced that all new contract contain a relegation clause, maybe players would also need to negotiate a release clause that they can be sold with a bid above x value Yes, good point…I believe some players do exactly that currently. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZumerZetSmithy Posted January 8 Report Share Posted January 8 On 05/01/2024 at 14:50, Davefevs said: What do you do for a job….all commission based or something like that? Parts and Procurement is the simple title Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riaz Posted January 8 Report Share Posted January 8 On 05/01/2024 at 13:32, ZumerZetSmithy said: if i fail at my job i loose 100% of my wages , if a team in PL gets relegated they have failed so should not be paid extra at all They are paid to play - they arent paid, to get a certain result - thats where bonuses come in Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted January 28 Author Report Share Posted January 28 Latest from Matt Slater. 2nd article down, looks like the negotiations are going nowhere fast. https://archive.ph/2024.01.27-075355/https://theathletic.com/5229492/2024/01/27/business-football-liverpool-spurs/ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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