Dullmoan Tone Posted March 3 Report Share Posted March 3 I know this is the least of our problems right now, but what is going on with our goal kicks? Twice yesterday Max passed it along the six yard line (I think) to Dickie who simply side footed it back to Max! No other players were making runs. Is this to fulfil the playing it out from the back target (before Max plays it out of the pitch)? Is there a tactical reason? Is it the same as our midfield receiving the ball and then playing it straight back to the original passer? I think King did this a few times ? I get you might want to do this when winning but this was when we needed a goal! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ohhhshauntaylor Posted March 3 Report Share Posted March 3 Welcome to 2024 and the obsession with tippy tappy football. It’s a waste of time, as we pass it sideways in defence, before an aimless HOOF down the channel. Liam Manning / SOD 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CS Red Posted March 3 Report Share Posted March 3 If someone would like too correct me. But I believe it's to create space slightly further up the pitch. Goalkeeper play it to the full back. The attacker or attackers close down the ball, it's played back to the goalkeeper who can then play it into the space created behind the attackers. However not all teams close down the full back having become wise to it and it leads to boring boring Manning football with the ball passed from side to to side along the back. That's how I see it. If someone would like too correct me please feel free. Every day is a school day. MANNING OUT 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lack of Action Man Posted March 3 Report Share Posted March 3 17 minutes ago, CS Red said: If someone would like too correct me. But I believe it's to create space slightly further up the pitch. This was the original intention behind this goal kick routine. However, virtually every team in England has sussed this now and so it doesn’t work anymore. Especially if your keeper’s kicking is a tad inconsistent. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BasSavage88 Posted March 3 Report Share Posted March 3 1 hour ago, Dullmoan Tone said: I know this is the least of our problems right now, but what is going on with our goal kicks? Twice yesterday Max passed it along the six yard line (I think) to Dickie who simply side footed it back to Max! No other players were making runs. Is this to fulfil the playing it out from the back target (before Max plays it out of the pitch)? Is there a tactical reason? Is it the same as our midfield receiving the ball and then playing it straight back to the original passer? I think King did this a few times ? I get you might want to do this when winning but this was when we needed a goal! It's text book 2024 football. You're more likely to score/control the game if you have the ball. If you hoof the ball up to nakhi the chance of keeping possession and scoring drops massively Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoons Posted March 3 Report Share Posted March 3 It’s almost like Frankie ( I’m 6ft ??) fielding is teaching Max on how to take goal kicks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Never to the dark side Posted March 4 Report Share Posted March 4 I watched the first half of the Man utd game against Man City,it seemed the Man Utd goaly must doing more "kick the ball straight up the field" Any one else notice? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richwwtk Posted March 4 Report Share Posted March 4 (edited) 2 hours ago, Never to the dark side said: I watched the first half of the Man utd game against Man City,it seemed the Man Utd goaly must doing more "kick the ball straight up the field" Any one else notice? The commentators did, made a mention of it, something along the lines of you hardly ever see full on hoof it goal kicks in the Premier League any more Edited March 4 by richwwtk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Never to the dark side Posted March 4 Report Share Posted March 4 Thanks for that,I watch the game at Village Gym and the game was on mute so did not hear the comment about hoofball. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shauntaylor85 Posted March 4 Report Share Posted March 4 There was a crazy moment in second half where Max and Dickie, both under no pressure, took an age to decide how to bring the ball out, Dickie then promptly gave it away, we had a yellow card for a cynical foul and conceded a dangerous free kick just outside the D. It was astonishingly bad. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Finesse Posted March 4 Report Share Posted March 4 9 hours ago, BasSavage88 said: It's text book 2024 football. You're more likely to score/control the game if you have the ball. If you hoof the ball up to nakhi the chance of keeping possession and scoring drops massively Conversely, it slows our game down even more, tasking us with playing through the entire opposition team which unless you have players who can turn or beat their man (which we don't!) is infinitely more difficult than winning a second ball higher up the field. It's a scary thought that kicking it long every now and then would statistically yield even less than our pathetic 39 league goals! Most of our goals to my knowledge have come from winning the ball up high with a quick transition or a set piece/high ball into the box. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneTeamInBristol Posted March 4 Report Share Posted March 4 (edited) Well there's no point in Max hoofing it long when all our attackers combined height is about 4ft9. Edited March 4 by OneTeamInBristol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Geoff Posted March 4 Report Share Posted March 4 Helps withe the possession stats though 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clutton Caveman Posted March 4 Report Share Posted March 4 19 hours ago, ohhhshauntaylor said: Welcome to 2024 and the obsession with tippy tappy football. It’s a waste of time, as we pass it sideways in defence, before an aimless HOOF down the channel. Liam Manning / SOD Liam saw it on match of the day so he had to adopt it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numero Uno Posted March 4 Report Share Posted March 4 18 hours ago, BasSavage88 said: It's text book 2024 football. You're more likely to score/control the game if you have the ball. If you hoof the ball up to nakhi the chance of keeping possession and scoring drops massively Yet our chances of scoring in a game are pretty much **** all whatever we do. If you constantly have the ball in your own third of the pitch you also have **** all chance of scoring. If you constantly re-set every 30 seconds back to your centre half or goalkeeper you also have **** all chance of scoring. I don't call it Bore Ball for nothing.............. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProfitInMyPocket Posted March 4 Report Share Posted March 4 You'll see Ipswich do it tomorrow. But their players aren't afraid to play in tight spaces at the back and invite pressure to play around it and leave players like Chaplin/Taylor in free gaps in the middle or Davis/Clarke at full backs to then play forward. They don't hoof it long often because their set up is good enough with the wide players dropping inside to offer options too. Other teams don't play like that for the sake of it like we try to do. They do it for a reason. We try it because "it's the way to play". Manningball unite. Zzz. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cowshed Posted March 4 Report Share Posted March 4 20 hours ago, Dullmoan Tone said: I know this is the least of our problems right now, but what is going on with our goal kicks? Its the only dead ball where a team gets more than ten metres of space. Opportunity and more time to make decisions. Decisions that can be positive, negative and ... 20 hours ago, Dullmoan Tone said: (Max plays it out of the pitch)? There is a decision there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maltshoveller Posted March 4 Report Share Posted March 4 4 hours ago, Clutton Caveman said: Liam saw it on match of the day so he had to adopt it. Shame he has not noticed that only ONE team in the prem have had lots of success playing that way Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrongagain Posted March 4 Report Share Posted March 4 Tactically stupid, we have been caught out a few times by onrushing attackers - for sure NP would have kicked arse (or crutch) over it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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