Season Ticket Renewal!

[redsquirrel]

39 minutes ago, Sir Geoff said:

Two more here that won't be renewing. The football is so boring under Manning and there is no chance of that changing, it would appear. Relegation scrap incoming, next season.

Will probably buy a half season ticket in November when he's sacked.

 

spend it while youve got it mate, tinnion wont get anyone in thats any different. he thinks manning is a fantastic coach so he will only get another one like him, keep an eye on the league one top  two then take your pick. my guess is thats what he did this time

[RedM]

21 hours ago, ChippenhamRed said:

Further up I proposed a loyalty discount increasing each year. That would be one measure.

The fairest way would probably be a discount for those on government benefits, but I’m not sure if that could realistically be implemented. It’s the only real way to identify those who need the help, although some might argue it’s not a reasonable threshold.

Why should people on benefits get discounted tickets? Isn't football a hobby? No matter how you sugar coat this it's not a necessity.

Benefits from my understanding should only cover basic needs, food, warmth, transport. Not fags, booze, drugs, betting and Sky TV, and now football???!!! If people on benefits want those things they work for them or save up like everyone else!

[steviestevieneville]

1 hour ago, redsquirrel said:

spend it while youve got it mate, tinnion wont get anyone in thats any different. he thinks manning is a fantastic coach so he will only get another one like him, keep an eye on the league one top  two then take your pick. my guess is thats what he did this time

Exactly why I’m not renewing . The Lansdowns have pissed me off for a number years. Tinnion & manning are the final straw. It’s the way the club is being run for me . I’d never not renew just off the back of the manager. My next season ticket if I can afford one will be when we have new owners 

[exAtyeoMax]

17 hours ago, BrizzleRed said:

At the first look at those figures, it does look like those houses on the ‘90s where cheap, but that’s only half the picture isn’t it?  Interest rates have been low for a long time now, but even in the ‘90s were still pretty high.

I wouldn’t be at all surprised if that £50,000 house would have really cost nearer £150,000 when you factor in the high interest rate repaid on the mortgage.  Probably not much different to now in real terms.

I certainly sympathise with the young ones now, but in truth, we’ve already been there ourselves.  House buying has always been really painful and the biggest financial committment most of us will ever have in their lives.  I think it’s safe to say it’s really tough for anyone to do, regardless of when it was tbh.

I don’t really know how you work that out? Because interest rates wouldn’t have been high for all of the 25 years?

I bought my first flat in 92 for 44k, on a 14k wage. Granted interest rates were high, my payments were around £400 - £500 per month. Utilities were around £80 in total.

my niece has just bought a flat for £460k on two quite high salaries and their payments are around £1000 each for mortgage, and obviously £100s for utilities. How the hell are lower waged people, those with kids etc going to afford to buy anything these days?

I was looking into renting a flat last year, the estate agents wouldn’t consider anyone earning less than £35k a year! I’ve never earned that much in my life!

 

[38MC]

14 minutes ago, RedM said:

Why should people on benefits get discounted tickets? Isn't football a hobby? No matter how you sugar coat this it's not a necessity.

Benefits from my understanding should only cover basic needs, food, warmth, transport. Not fags, booze, drugs, betting and Sky TV, and now football???!!! If people on benefits want those things they work for them or save up like everyone else!

Access to some form of recreation is a basic need. 

[steviestevieneville]

2 minutes ago, 38MC said:

Access to some form of recreation is a basic need. 

Go for a walk then. I agree there shouldn’t be discounts  for people on benefits . That’s ridiculous . 

[extonsred]

I think you should all renew. I've been supporting 65 years n won't be renewing which makes it a bloody certainty they'll have the best season ever!!

[extonsred]

1 minute ago, steviestevieneville said:

Go for a walk then. I agree there shouldn’t be discounts  for people on benefits . That’s ridiculous . 

Any of us could end up on benefits...many do through no fault of their own.

[exAtyeoMax]

2 minutes ago, extonsred said:

Any of us could end up on benefits...many do through no fault of their own.

I’ve been on benefits and just had to make financial sacrifices. No way did I expect tax payers to supplement my lifestyle.

[pongo88]

It has been the same for the last few years. Many people say they won’t renew but the number of season tickets sold remains approximately the same. Either existing holders give in and renew or there is a steady flow of new people buying tickets. It will be interesting to see if the events of this season, and people’s anger, really make a difference 

[Numero Uno]

32 minutes ago, RedM said:

Why should people on benefits get discounted tickets? Isn't football a hobby? No matter how you sugar coat this it's not a necessity.

Benefits from my understanding should only cover basic needs, food, warmth, transport. Not fags, booze, drugs, betting and Sky TV, and now football???!!! If people on benefits want those things they work for them or save up like everyone else!

Why should THEY get anything, why them what about ME, how about ME, what am I getting out of it. I, I, I, when is someone going to look after ME, ME, MEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE. It's not fair. I'm not getting anything out of it. Not fair, not fair. I'm all right Jack **** everyone else etc. etc. etc. We don't want them smelly, uncouth bastards at the game anyway, do we?

Oh, but what about Wayne and Waynetta slob, never worked a day in their life, why should they, why should they.......? Guess what, Wayne and Waynetta have no interest in football and anyone who cashes their giro (or whatever it is you do now) and goes straight to their dealer certainly won't have any interest in a season ticket either. Get a ******* grip.

Perhaps, on the other hand, when a club cannot shift season tickets and, in fact, look like numbers will be REDUCING anything they can do to attract more supporters and money is worth doing........even if you capped the amount of discounted tickets on offer.

By the way, if you are unlucky enough to be on DISABILITY BENEFITS do you also have to go **** yourself?

[steviestevieneville]

22 minutes ago, extonsred said:

Any of us could end up on benefits...many do through no fault of their own.

I’m not saying they’re not. Doesn’t mean you should get discounted season tickets. Just another dumbing down woke thing to say. For every person on benefits through no fault of their own , there’s 20 lazy bastards that can’t be bothered to work . Do you think they should get discounts ? 

[Shauntaylor85]

In fairness to the club the pay monthly scheme is very reasonable. Appreciate the £25 admin fee is upsetting some but we need to make money too and surely we all want the club to be successful?

[exAtyeoMax]

1 minute ago, Shauntaylor85 said:

In fairness to the club the pay monthly scheme is very reasonable. Appreciate the £25 admin fee is upsetting some but we need to make money too and surely we all want the club to be successful?

Shame you can’t pay it by Klarna, there’s no set up fee for that.

At the moment I don’t want the club ripping off anyone to be honest. 
sort out your commercial side properly!

[Numero Uno]

What so confusing @exAtyeoMax? What is actually wrong with the club offering a discount, even if it's for a maximum period, to someone who has lost their job? It seems very typical of people now to bleat because someone is getting something slightly cheaper than them. Yeah, yeah, yeah, we've all been on benefits at some point in life. Some of us just don't act like heroes about it. "Oh, look at me making sacrifices". Yeah, we know, everyone else did too.

And, I'll ask again, if you are on Disability Benefits does that still make you a scrounger who doesn't deserve a discounted season ticket?

[Numero Uno]

5 minutes ago, steviestevieneville said:

I’m not saying they’re not. Doesn’t mean you should get discounted season tickets. Just another dumbing down woke thing to say. For every person on benefits through no fault of their own , there’s 20 lazy bastards that can’t be bothered to work . Do you think they should get discounts ? 

.......and NONE of the twenty lazy bastards you speak of will be interested in a season ticket unless you were literally giving it away.

[Bristol Rob]

1 hour ago, RedM said:

Why should people on benefits get discounted tickets? Isn't football a hobby? No matter how you sugar coat this it's not a necessity.

Benefits from my understanding should only cover basic needs, food, warmth, transport. Not fags, booze, drugs, betting and Sky TV, and now football???!!! If people on benefits want those things they work for them or save up like everyone else!

I remember when I started going you got a cheaper ticket if you were able to show your UB40 card.

 

[RedM]

48 minutes ago, 38MC said:

Access to some form of recreation is a basic need. 

There are plenty of parks etc for fresh air and exercise. If football really is a MUST stand on the touchline of a parks match. But to suggest a business should offer their expensive product at a further discount to people on benefits is a complete non starter. 

[Numero Uno]

Just now, RedM said:

There are plenty of parks etc for fresh air and exercise. If football really is a MUST stand on the touchline of a parks match. But to suggest a business should offer their expensive product at a further discount to people on benefits is a complete non starter. 

......and that includes people on Disability Benefits?

[Numero Uno]

4 minutes ago, Bristol Rob said:

I remember when I started going you got a cheaper ticket if you were able to show your UB40 card.

 

Imagine being knocked over by a Bus that was totally not your fault, not being able to work because of it (or only being able to work at a severely reduced wage) and being told by the club to go and do one you scrounging git.........

[marmite]

27 minutes ago, pongo88 said:

It has been the same for the last few years. Many people say they won’t renew but the number of season tickets sold remains approximately the same. Either existing holders give in and renew or there is a steady flow of new people buying tickets. It will be interesting to see if the events of this season, and people’s anger, really make a difference 

There are multiple reasons why people do or don't renew. We're all used to watching City so expectations are never high! 

But is there anyone on this forum who is renewing or first time s/t holder because we do have JL,BT,and LM running the show??

[frenchred]

3 minutes ago, Numero Uno said:

Imagine being knocked over by a Bus that was totally not your fault, not being able to work because of it (or only being able to work at a severely reduced wage) and being told by the club to go and do one you scrounging git.........

Imagine the compo you would get!

[RedM]

3 minutes ago, Bristol Rob said:

I remember when I started going you got a cheaper ticket if you were able to show your UB40 card.

 

Was that when unemployment was at a record high and there were hundreds of applicants for even the basic jobs? It's very different now with vacancies unfilled. There is of course work from home, broadband etc which there wasn't back then. Most fit and able bodied people can now do some sort of work, but unfortunately the benefits system doesn't motivate them too. Obviously there are exceptions but I personally don't see why it would be feasible to offer discounts in this case. The cost will have to be found somewhere, and everything has a cost.

[RedM]

6 minutes ago, Numero Uno said:

......and that includes people on Disability Benefits?

I believe these are already catered for aren't they? 

[Numero Uno]

1 minute ago, frenchred said:

Imagine the compo you would get!

Would take about five years mind........in the meantime "go and watch De Veys" at Kings Head Park you "Broke ***".......

[Numero Uno]

Just now, RedM said:

I believe these are already catered for aren't they? 

People with obvious accessibility issues are, I don't know about all disabilities.................I would hope so.

[exAtyeoMax]

26 minutes ago, Numero Uno said:

What so confusing @exAtyeoMax? What is actually wrong with the club offering a discount, even if it's for a maximum period, to someone who has lost their job? It seems very typical of people now to bleat because someone is getting something slightly cheaper than them. Yeah, yeah, yeah, we've all been on benefits at some point in life. Some of us just don't act like heroes about it. "Oh, look at me making sacrifices". Yeah, we know, everyone else did too.

And, I'll ask again, if you are on Disability Benefits does that still make you a scrounger who doesn't deserve a discounted season ticket?

Well, if you take that tone! I was just trying to have a discussion about the idea.

The benefit system is wide and diverse. You mentioned scroungers, not me. Unfortunately there are people who exploit the system, and there are those who need support.

[Galley is our king]

2 minutes ago, RedM said:

I believe these are already catered for aren't they? 

No, when the equal rights bill became law, it gave companies the right to choose if they wanted to keep some sort of reduction for people with disabilities. Our club decided that equal rights should be upheld. I attended a supporter meeting with Ashton about this. We did manage to get the club to phase the extra increase over 3 years so no, no less for disabilities except those in the wheelchair section who do benefit from a free carers seat.

That is excellent but for the vast majority, no.

[Numero Uno]

2 minutes ago, exAtyeoMax said:

Well, if you take that tone! I was just trying to have a discussion about the idea.

The benefit system is wide and diverse. You mentioned scroungers, not me. Unfortunately there are people who exploit the system, and there are those who need support.

How many people do you know who "are not interested in working" that have a season ticket at the Gate? Do people who aren't interested in working exist? 100% they do and I would bet that most of us know someone in that category. Are they interested in discounted season tickets at Ashton Gate (we wouldn't be talking 70% discount and giving the thing away)? I certainly don't know anyone in that category.

[Numero Uno]

Just now, Galley is our king said:

No, when the equal rights bill became law, it gave companies the right to choose if they wanted to keep some sort of reduction for people with disabilities. Our club decided that equal rights should be upheld. I attended a supporter meeting with Ashton about this. We did manage to get the club to phase the extra increase over 3 years so no, no less for disabilities except those in the wheelchair section who do benefit from a free carers seat.

That is excellent but for the vast majority, no.

That's what I thought and, as we all know, disability isn't JUST people with obvious accessibility issues (i.e. in a wheelchair).