richieb Posted February 12, 2005 Report Share Posted February 12, 2005 Listening to KA before the gas game today,it appears that he is enjoying his time under the guidence of GJ. He was saying that the training was more intense & harder work. Umh, another of the Tinnion fan club. The club needs a total overhaul & lets make the players respect the management team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest hairyshamrock Posted February 12, 2005 Report Share Posted February 12, 2005 I like it, that geordie bloke who is supposed to be our manager's got less supporters than the Raving looney party! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
myol'man Posted February 12, 2005 Report Share Posted February 12, 2005 Listening to KA before the gas game today,it appears that he is enjoying his time under the guidence of GJ. He was saying that the training was more intense & harder work. Umh, another of the Tinnion fan club. The club needs a total overhaul & lets make the players respect the management team. ← Yes, i heard the Amankwa interview, in which he said training at Yeovil was much harder work. Perhaps thats why some of our former players return to the "Ashton Gate comfort zone" No wonder Tommy, Belly, Colesy, Scotty etc. look so unfit if they are not put through their paces in training. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richieb Posted February 12, 2005 Author Report Share Posted February 12, 2005 Yes, i heard the Amankwa interview, in which he said training at Yeovil was much harder work. Perhaps thats why some of our former players return to the "Ashton Gate comfort zone" No wonder Tommy, Belly, Colesy, Scotty etc. look so unfit if they are not put through their paces in training. ← Not sure if it is just the comfy zone. I think that many of the players don't put the effort in because they are not motivated enough to want to. Yep, they should want to for BCFC, but it is so difficult to play under a Manager that they think dosn't have a clue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAGILLA Posted February 12, 2005 Report Share Posted February 12, 2005 Some sort of common thread running here. - KA enjoying his time at Yeovil - Gillespie becoming instant cult hero with Cheltenham - Miller knocking them in for Hearts in the SPL - Goodfellow playing well andd scoring goals for Swansea who bid for him again on Friday They do seem to thrive when they're not at City being coached by our magnificent management team, don't they? And here's another one:- Roberts leaves - wrong attitude Woodman loaned out - wrong attitude Coles listed - wrong attitude Tommy warned - wrong attitude And who have all these people clashed with? Brian Tinnion. Amankwaah Gillespie Miller Goodfellow Roberts Woodman Coles Doherty Quite an impressive list there. One half are being poorly coached and they and the club are suffering as a result and the other half are being or have been moved on because of their 'attitude'. Yet more examples of poor man-management and poor coaching. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richieb Posted February 12, 2005 Author Report Share Posted February 12, 2005 Some sort of common thread running here. - KA enjoying his time at Yeovil - Gillespie becoming instant cult hero with Cheltenham - Miller knocking them in for Hearts in the SPL - Goodfellow playing well andd scoring goals for Swansea who bid for him again on Friday They do seem to thrive when they're not at City being coached by our magnificent management team, don't they? And here's another one:- Roberts leaves - wrong attitude Woodman loaned out - wrong attitude Coles listed - wrong attitude Tommy warned - wrong attitude And who have all these people clashed with? Brian Tinnion. Amankwaah Gillespie Miller Goodfellow Roberts Woodman Coles Doherty Quite an impressive list there. One half are being poorly coached and they and the club are suffering as a result and the other half are being or have been moved on because of their 'attitude'. Yet more examples of poor man-management and poor coaching. ← If I thought as much of BCFC as BT says he does, then he MUST realise that he has made a 'pigs ear' of his man management. Maybe he will stand aside ? Maybe not - he is too arrogant to accept that he hasn't got it right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cardy Posted February 12, 2005 Report Share Posted February 12, 2005 Some sort of common thread running here. - KA enjoying his time at Yeovil - Gillespie becoming instant cult hero with Cheltenham - Miller knocking them in for Hearts in the SPL - Goodfellow playing well andd scoring goals for Swansea who bid for him again on Friday They do seem to thrive when they're not at City being coached by our magnificent management team, don't they? And here's another one:- Roberts leaves - wrong attitude Woodman loaned out - wrong attitude Coles listed - wrong attitude Tommy warned - wrong attitude And who have all these people clashed with? Brian Tinnion. Amankwaah Gillespie Miller Goodfellow Roberts Woodman Coles Doherty Quite an impressive list there. One half are being poorly coached and they and the club are suffering as a result and the other half are being or have been moved on because of their 'attitude'. Yet more examples of poor man-management and poor coaching. ← Best post I've read on here since the shame of Friday night. Spot on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rednready Posted February 13, 2005 Report Share Posted February 13, 2005 Some sort of common thread running here. - KA enjoying his time at Yeovil - Gillespie becoming instant cult hero with Cheltenham - Miller knocking them in for Hearts in the SPL - Goodfellow playing well andd scoring goals for Swansea who bid for him again on Friday They do seem to thrive when they're not at City being coached by our magnificent management team, don't they? And here's another one:- Roberts leaves - wrong attitude Woodman loaned out - wrong attitude Coles listed - wrong attitude Tommy warned - wrong attitude And who have all these people clashed with? Brian Tinnion. Amankwaah Gillespie Miller Goodfellow Roberts Woodman Coles Doherty Quite an impressive list there. One half are being poorly coached and they and the club are suffering as a result and the other half are being or have been moved on because of their 'attitude'. Yet more examples of poor man-management and poor coaching. ← ADD a few more names of the loaned or departed and you would have a team capable of beating our current Tins team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MATT BCFC Posted February 13, 2005 Report Share Posted February 13, 2005 Some sort of common thread running here. - KA enjoying his time at Yeovil - Gillespie becoming instant cult hero with Cheltenham - Miller knocking them in for Hearts in the SPL - Goodfellow playing well andd scoring goals for Swansea who bid for him again on Friday They do seem to thrive when they're not at City being coached by our magnificent management team, don't they? And here's another one:- Roberts leaves - wrong attitude Woodman loaned out - wrong attitude Coles listed - wrong attitude Tommy warned - wrong attitude And who have all these people clashed with? Brian Tinnion. Amankwaah Gillespie Miller Goodfellow Roberts Woodman Coles Doherty Quite an impressive list there. One half are being poorly coached and they and the club are suffering as a result and the other half are being or have been moved on because of their 'attitude'. Yet more examples of poor man-management and poor coaching. ← Looks like Tinnion has fallen out with more players than Souness which is saying something Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slave to the rhythm Posted February 13, 2005 Report Share Posted February 13, 2005 Some sort of common thread running here. - KA enjoying his time at Yeovil - Gillespie becoming instant cult hero with Cheltenham - Miller knocking them in for Hearts in the SPL - Goodfellow playing well andd scoring goals for Swansea who bid for him again on Friday They do seem to thrive when they're not at City being coached by our magnificent management team, don't they? And here's another one:- Roberts leaves - wrong attitude Woodman loaned out - wrong attitude Coles listed - wrong attitude Tommy warned - wrong attitude And who have all these people clashed with? Brian Tinnion. Amankwaah Gillespie Miller Goodfellow Roberts Woodman Coles Doherty Quite an impressive list there. One half are being poorly coached and they and the club are suffering as a result and the other half are being or have been moved on because of their 'attitude'. Yet more examples of poor man-management and poor coaching. ← Not sure that KA/SG have clashed with Tinnion. Apart from that small point, I agree with everything you say. A good manager gets the best out of the players at his disposal. A bad manager adopts a "scorched earth" policy and says everybody else except me must be sacrificed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyderman Posted February 13, 2005 Report Share Posted February 13, 2005 ADD a few more names of the loaned or departed and you would have a team capable of beating our current Tins team. ← Quite an interesting one. Assuming we include Wilkshire in this list... ----------Davies Amankwaah-Butler--coles--Woodman Wilkshire---Doherty---Goodfellow Gillespe----Miller----Roberts Apart from Davies, not a bad line-up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NATCHER Posted February 13, 2005 Report Share Posted February 13, 2005 I've asked the question before, why is there so much "anti Tinnion" feeling within the club ? DaveL?, anyone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rednready Posted February 13, 2005 Report Share Posted February 13, 2005 I've asked the question before, why is there so much "anti Tinnion" feeling within the club ? DaveL?, anyone? ← As a player of long standing and great experience he was not made captain. Not one of the guys, not a people person, add to that his dreadful after shave. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TA8 RED Posted February 13, 2005 Report Share Posted February 13, 2005 I've asked the question before, why is there so much "anti Tinnion" feeling within the club ? How many times does it have to be said.Brian Tinnion is not a MANAGER Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Dazzler Posted February 13, 2005 Report Share Posted February 13, 2005 In addition to all the above, he lacks any intelligence either managerially or tactically. He tries to feed us the line that any player must be 120% committed to the club/cause if he is going to have a future here. Ok we are all human beings who live and work in the real world and know that when it comes to commitment and effort it is impossible to achieve over 100%. But we have to make allowances for the "Planet Professional Football" where brainless cliches rule the day. Hands up anyone who has vowed to "work their socks off" this week. I'm sure that most of us would, given the chance to play for the club we support, give it everything and know that at the "end of the day" (I can't stop myself now) we would be running around like headless chickens. Anyone can give 100% but in most cases it wouldn't be anywhere near good enough. So clearly hard work alone is not the answer - the managerial skills come in to play by working out how to deal with those that are perceived to be lacking commitment and for some players the key to motivation will be totally different from the next player. But Tinnion's ideas of how to manage a football club are far too simplistic to deal with such "complex" matters in any managerial way. My mind goes back to an interview on the Promotion Video of 1997/98. When asked how he thought City would get on in the First Division, rather than delivering a critical analysis, he stated simply "we're going to win it!" As if just saying it would make it happen. Future Football Manager potential? And no, we didn't win it - we were 23 places away from winning it! It's not his fault, most players do not have the ability to become managers and there are so many different skills and styles. But Tinman at this stage has not fitted naturally into the role - he has struggled with tactics, motivation and "guile", the ability to out-think the opposing manager. I've no doubt he will improve given time. Unfortunately time is not on his side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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