Loderingo Posted February 13, 2005 Report Share Posted February 13, 2005 Can anyone remember the circumstances of when Fawthrop was briefly our manager? He resigned due to some financial scandal didn't he? He was just before Wilson I think. Was it the current board then who appointed Fawthrop - did they try the cheap option back then too? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex1089 Posted February 13, 2005 Report Share Posted February 13, 2005 Fawthrop was a good manager. He would be a good replacment or experiance for tins to learn from. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrahamC Posted February 13, 2005 Report Share Posted February 13, 2005 Fawthrop failed to disclose to the board that he had run a business that subsequently went bankrupt and was sacked, he was only permanent manager for one game, a loss at home to Preston. It was the current board who appointed him, he had previously been one of the gang of three post Pulis, with Rosenior and Burnside. Early on it appeared that Leroy was actually in charge but he mysteriously muscled his way to the front and was appointed manager, prompting Scott Davidson's famous comment that no other club would ever have appointed him. He is now academy director but doesn't run any teams himself. To me he is symptomatic of the "promote from within" culture that has produced such abysmal results, he seems to have held every job here in the past 15 years. I thought he'd be Tinnion's no 2 this Summer though, as they are good mates. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loderingo Posted February 13, 2005 Author Report Share Posted February 13, 2005 Fawthrop failed to disclose to the board that he had run a business that subsequently went bankrupt and was sacked, he was only permanent manager for one game, a loss at home to Preston. It was the current board who appointed him, he had previously been one of the gang of three post Pulis, with Rosenior and Burnside. Early on it appeared that Leroy was actually in charge but he mysteriously muscled his way to the front and was appointed manager, prompting Scott Davidson's famous comment that no other club would ever have appointed him. He is now academy director but doesn't run any teams himself. To me he is symptomatic of the "promote from within" culture that has produced such abysmal results, he seems to have held every job here in the past 15 years. I thought he'd be Tinnion's no 2 this Summer though, as they are good mates. ← Hum that's very interesting thanks. So if the board do replace the manger, then they could well pick another cheap option again and we'd be no better off... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keeno85 Posted February 14, 2005 Report Share Posted February 14, 2005 I thought he resigned. Don't think it was seen as 'the cheap option' because he had done well, and the board thought he had earned the chance to take it on full-time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
port marine red Posted February 14, 2005 Report Share Posted February 14, 2005 Believe you me, he's not as popular with the players as you think. It would be another poo appointment if he was given the job Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest uncle john Posted February 14, 2005 Report Share Posted February 14, 2005 Just for the record, our form under Fawthrop was top 6, and that coming straight after the Pulis era. He also took us to Wembley. And all that in 5 months. He got the best out of Thorpe, discovered Scott Murray as an attacking right winger (which we got the benefit of for years to come), and took us on a 15 match unbeaten run. Those are all facts. (well, most of them). Andy Cole in his autobiography barely mentions City but says what an influence Fawthrop had on him. High praise from a man who played under Keegan Ferguson etc etc. In my view the issue isn't where someone comes from, it's whether they are any good. And Fawthrop was and in my view would have got us out of here by now if he had Wilson's four years. But we got seduced by a big Premiership name. Sometimes promoting from within works, and sometimes it doesn't, but I don't think you can say 'no promotions from within ever work', even if the current one is testing my faith. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
graham b Posted February 14, 2005 Report Share Posted February 14, 2005 Fawthrop failed to disclose to the board that he had run a business that subsequently went bankrupt and was sacked, he was only permanent manager for one game, a loss at home to Preston. It was the current board who appointed him, he had previously been one of the gang of three post Pulis, with Rosenior and Burnside. Early on it appeared that Leroy was actually in charge but he mysteriously muscled his way to the front and was appointed manager, prompting Scott Davidson's famous comment that no other club would ever have appointed him. He is now academy director but doesn't run any teams himself. To me he is symptomatic of the "promote from within" culture that has produced such abysmal results, he seems to have held every job here in the past 15 years. I thought he'd be Tinnion's no 2 this Summer though, as they are good mates. ← The Gang of Three consisted of an ex-top class player who had previously managed at Gloucester, the Academy Director and an odd job man with a CV that included selling chips at a Mediterranean resort. Obviously the Board thought the catering needed improving. Fawthrop's present title is Football Co-ordinator and Academy Director which I think gives him the full set in 'happy families' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taz Posted February 14, 2005 Report Share Posted February 14, 2005 Obviously the Board thought the catering needed improving. ← Well didn't do a very good job then did he Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
graham b Posted February 15, 2005 Report Share Posted February 15, 2005 The Gang of Three consisted of 1. An ex-top class player who had previously managed at Gloucester (Rosienior) 2. The Academy Director (Burnside) 3. An odd job man with a CV that included selling chips at a Mediterranean resort.(Fawthrop) Obviously the Board thought the catering needed improving. Fawthrop's present title is Football Co-ordinator and Academy Director which I think gives him the full set in 'happy families' ← Amended message to clear up any cynical confusion. :Laugh4: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Posted February 15, 2005 Report Share Posted February 15, 2005 The odd job man you refer to was an ex top flight footballer who, I think, played for England. A bit unfair on Dave Burnside. ← where is Burnside now, he left City.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmersonsKev Posted February 15, 2005 Report Share Posted February 15, 2005 where is Burnside now, he left City.. ← He was last spotted doing some advice work with Cheltenham Town. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedUn Posted February 15, 2005 Report Share Posted February 15, 2005 where is Burnside now, he left City.. ← Much to do with setting up Cardiff's academy I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zookeeper Posted February 15, 2005 Report Share Posted February 15, 2005 Much to do with setting up Cardiff's academy I think. ← He has also remained good friedns with lots of people who used to be involved with City. Helps out with a lot of the players who didn't quite make it like Matt Hale to help them develop coaching school, and always seems to have his eyes open to new coaching opportunities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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