Show Me The Money! Posted April 8, 2005 Report Share Posted April 8, 2005 Tins on Martin Allen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich-TWSC- Posted April 8, 2005 Report Share Posted April 8, 2005 Read it a couple of minutes ago... Although the basis of Tinnion's comments are true, alot of Brentford's squad are very inexperienced.Martin Allen can easily snipe a verbal comeback from that statement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobby Posted April 8, 2005 Report Share Posted April 8, 2005 Martin Allen can easily snipe a verbal comeback from that statement.←Personally I'd throw a similar quote back - see link below (last para in particular)!!small squad and suspensions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Show Me The Money! Posted April 8, 2005 Author Report Share Posted April 8, 2005 Does experience really count for anything? We've got lots of players with experience, Bell, Murray, Carey, Doherty, Coles, Phillips, Smith, and what has it got us.We do have an inexperienced manager and assistant mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedM Posted April 8, 2005 Report Share Posted April 8, 2005 And we've got a smaller squad due to a handful of players being out on loan. Not that many of them featured regularly mind. Not sure how many of those on loan can be called back anyhow, not many I think?Add to this injuries, suspensions and youngsters deemed not quite ready and we find ourselves a bit stretched. Tinnion maybe tempted to be a hero one last time! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobby Posted April 8, 2005 Report Share Posted April 8, 2005 And we've got a smaller squad due to a handful of players being out on loan. Not that many of them featured regularly mind. Not sure how many of those on loan can be called back anyhow, not many I think?Add to this injuries, suspensions and youngsters deemed not quite ready and we find ourselves a bit stretched. Tinnion maybe tempted to be a hero one last time! ←Indeed, it seems perhaps that our "small" squad is very much of our own making. How many good players do we have out on loan, how easily did we let Kev A and Tony Butler go without a replacement for at least one of them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ibby Posted April 8, 2005 Report Share Posted April 8, 2005 Tinnion sounds desperate to take the pressure off himself, he knows your season is over after 4:45PM tomorrow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich-TWSC- Posted April 8, 2005 Report Share Posted April 8, 2005 he knows your season is over after 4:45PM tomorrow.←Let the battle commence! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
screech Posted April 8, 2005 Report Share Posted April 8, 2005 Our season was over weeks ago, tomorrow is a nothing game regardless what our leader may say. We needed a miracle to happen back in February, it didn't come and we are left with a desperate manager failing to convince anyone we're in with a shout.Good luck reaching the play offs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tunley Legend Posted April 8, 2005 Report Share Posted April 8, 2005 Tins on Martin Allen←The best thing Tinnion could do is spend a bit of quality time on the training ground teaching our players that football is not about hitting a constant stream of 60 yard aimless whoosh balls up the park to the opposition Centre Half.Instead he spends it whingeing about opposition managers who have far more talent than he appears to have. Or is he making his excuses for a possible defeat tomorrow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Ron Posted April 8, 2005 Report Share Posted April 8, 2005 Having just read the thing about Doherty/Coles bookings, how many times has Brian said "We haven't got the biggest squad" this season...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmyb Posted April 8, 2005 Report Share Posted April 8, 2005 Having just read the thing about Doherty/Coles bookings, how many times has Brian said "We haven't got the biggest squad" this season...?←How on earth we can complain about having a small squad when we have 5 first teamers plus simpson out on loan god knows. Chuck into that selling two players (Buts and Kev A) in the last month or so and not signing a replacement.Theres a reason we have a small squad Brian!!!!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerry Gows' Tash Posted April 8, 2005 Report Share Posted April 8, 2005 We've actually got a very large squad for League 1 - 34 according to the main squad with 6 out on loan - IMHO we should recall Gillespie and Goodfellow now ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Ron Posted April 8, 2005 Report Share Posted April 8, 2005 How on earth we can complain about having a small squad when we have 5 first teamers plus simpson out on loan god knows. Chuck into that selling two players (Buts and Kev A) in the last month or so and not signing a replacement.Theres a reason we have a small squad Brian!!!!!!!!!!←Especially to then go on and complain about other people Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedM Posted April 8, 2005 Report Share Posted April 8, 2005 We've actually got a very large squad for League 1 - 34 according to the main squad with 6 out on loan - IMHO we should recall Gillespie and Goodfellow now !←Don't give Tins that idea, he'd call them back and play them in defence! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richieb Posted April 8, 2005 Report Share Posted April 8, 2005 Tins on Martin Allen←I find the comments very sad.BT inherited a quality squad, with a mix that had achieved a top 6 finish on a few occasions.Was allowed to add to that squad - as he said at the time we needed goals.The one thing that BT got right was bring in LL.He spent on H'nan & Brooker. The sort of mony that other Div managers can only dream of.Has let a lot of good players go & brought in some average replacements.He has had the real royalties when it comes to players.Why is he moaning ? Again transfering the blame to his squad not being good & experienced enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCFC_Dan Posted April 8, 2005 Report Share Posted April 8, 2005 Has let a lot of good players go & brought in some average replacements.←Who has he let go?The only players I can think of that have been "let go" are Roberts, Woodman and Goodfellow - and the latter 2 are only on loan. None of those are really good enough for a side with Championship ambitions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhatWill Posted April 8, 2005 Report Share Posted April 8, 2005 Dissappointing to see Tinnion resort to cheap shots. I agree with what he says but can't he have kept his mouth shut?The actions of a desperate man for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhatWill Posted April 8, 2005 Report Share Posted April 8, 2005 Who has he let go?The only players I can think of that have been "let go" are Roberts, Woodman and Goodfellow - and the latter 2 are only on loan. None of those are really good enough for a side with Championship ambitions.←Roberts, Woodman, Amankwaah, Butler, Miller, Gillespie, Goodfellow and he's currently in the process of trying to let Coles and Doherty go... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evocare Posted April 8, 2005 Report Share Posted April 8, 2005 Dissappointing to see Tinnion resort to cheap shots. I agree with what he says but can't he have kept his mouth shut?The actions of a desperate man for sure.←Yep, I guess BT is just finding his feet with the mindgames, he still has a way to go until he's up there with the best like Sir Alex & Wenger.Fair play for giving it a go, lets face it there is nothing else to play for this season he may aswell take a couple of pops to see what happens Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCFC_Dan Posted April 8, 2005 Report Share Posted April 8, 2005 Roberts - not good enoughWoodman - not good enoughAmankwaah - not shown anything much since his injuriesButler - old, not good enoughMiller - on loan, in fine form, will either come back a better player or will make us some moneyGillespie - no place for him in the squad. Loan is a sensible moveGoodfellow - not good enoughColes and Doherty - continually let the club down on and off the pitch. petulant and immature.←Just my thoughts, of course, but I would say all those outward transfers are justifiable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Percy Parrot Posted April 8, 2005 Report Share Posted April 8, 2005 I am always sceptical about this type of story. Media like to misquote.But if it is true then I find it disappointing. I can understand people being frustrated about how much people bang on about Martin Allen...but the people who have a right to be annoyed are the managers of the other smaller clubs doing a good job on an equally small budget eg Hartlepool.Tins can't sulk because Brentford look to be taking a play-off spot and we don't. Tins has been allowed to bring in new players and spend £375,000 (sold £150k, so still spent £225,000). Not sure what Brentford have spent in that period but I expect it is a lot less, if anything at all. We have dropped 4 places this season from last, Brentford look like they will improve by over 10 places. No doubting their achievements in my eyes- they may have finished bottom half a few times in recent years but they still manage to compete with us and often to better than us every couple of years too- amazing when you think that their gates are half what ours are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
red man dan Posted April 8, 2005 Report Share Posted April 8, 2005 Just my thoughts, of course, but I would say all those outward transfers are justifiable.←i agree! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Slinky Posted April 8, 2005 Report Share Posted April 8, 2005 BT inherited a quality squad, with a mix that had achieved a top 6 finish on a few occasions.←No he didn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhatWill Posted April 8, 2005 Report Share Posted April 8, 2005 Roberts, Woodman, Amankwaah, Butler, Miller, Gillespie, Goodfellow and he's currently in the process of trying to let Coles and Doherty go...←For me:Roberts - Key player last season. Goalscorer, and has pace - something we've lacked this season.Woodman - Not really given a chance by Tinnion, didn't look bad early on in the seasonAmankwaah - Not given a chance.Butler - Dodgy situation with Clive Platt, probably had to go.Miller - Not given a chanceGillespie - Loan move bestGoodfellow - More pace and goalscoring abilityColes & Doherty - petulant, but Tinnion certainly hasn't got the best out of them this season! At least they weren't this unruly under Wilson.Then, all this begs the question who has Tinnion brought in to make the squad better?KeithDinningHeffernanBrookerCareyOrrSmithOther than Brooker and Heffernan when he's been given the chance I can't see any improvement there whatsoever. I see worse players infact. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest REDCIDERARMY Posted April 8, 2005 Report Share Posted April 8, 2005 The Total list of players that have been sold or on loan: Hill Butler Amankwaah Woodman Gillespie Goodfellow Miller Simpson Add to that Coles on the transfer market and Doherty almost its quite a turn around on a squad that gained almost auto promotion last season,replaced by better players I do not think so as our position shows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCFC_Dan Posted April 8, 2005 Report Share Posted April 8, 2005 Other than Brooker and Heffernan when he's been given the chance I can't see any improvement there whatsoever. I see worse players infact.←Well we're always going to have differing views on players, but aside from Dinning I don't think Tinnion has signed a bad player (incidentally, you missed Scott Brown off your list).I agree that we've lost some pace without Roberts and Goodfellow, but I also don't think either of them is terribly skillful and neither seems to have a terribly good attitude.I just think that some people are now overrating Wilson's squad in an effort to make Tinnion look worse than he is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pedigree-Punk Posted April 8, 2005 Report Share Posted April 8, 2005 No he didn't.←Yes he did! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
red man dan Posted April 8, 2005 Report Share Posted April 8, 2005 Yes he did! ←NO he didnt! he inherited a good...ish squad, of players in footballing abiltity.But i question how good the team he inhertied was in terms of focus, determination, motivation and willingness to play an other season at bcfc..just my thoughts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Slinky Posted April 8, 2005 Report Share Posted April 8, 2005 Yes he did! ←Look at the players available at the start of this season compared with those available against Brighton. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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