Riaz Posted January 27, 2004 Report Share Posted January 27, 2004 If Aaron dosen't play well tonite, I think Marvin Brown should start on the right with Goodfellow on the left. Just to give him a chance, as he was once our star prospect, and to give aaron brown a timely kick up the backside. What d'ya think? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taz Posted January 27, 2004 Report Share Posted January 27, 2004 I don't see how Marvin can be considered ahead of Roberts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elhombrecito Posted January 27, 2004 Report Share Posted January 27, 2004 Even if Danny were to drop Aaron there is no way that Marvin would be played on the right-wing as we have Robbo to fit in there. I think that Aaron should stay in the team anyway, he has the ability to cause sides huge problems when he's on song. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riaz Posted January 27, 2004 Author Report Share Posted January 27, 2004 I don't see how Marvin can be considered ahead of Roberts. Roberts cannot cross and is too greedy - a winger main objective is too supply the strikers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elhombrecito Posted January 27, 2004 Report Share Posted January 27, 2004 Roberts cannot cross and is too greedy - a winger main objective is too supply the strikers. And you think that Marvin could do any better? I'm not saying that Robbo is a great winger but he is definately IMO much better on the wing than Marvin. Although I'm basing my opinion of Marvin's wing play on 45 minutes of football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taz Posted January 27, 2004 Report Share Posted January 27, 2004 Roberts cannot cross and is too greedy - a winger main objective is too supply the strikers. But what has Marvin exactly done in the past year or so? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bucksred Posted January 27, 2004 Report Share Posted January 27, 2004 I don't see how Marvin can be considered ahead of Roberts. took the words right out of my mouth there- Goodfella, and Robbo will frighten Colly with their pace............ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
myoudale Posted January 27, 2004 Report Share Posted January 27, 2004 Roberts cannot cross and is too greedy - a winger main objective is too supply the strikers. and roberts is a STRIKER not a winger how many time do i have to say this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elhombrecito Posted January 27, 2004 Report Share Posted January 27, 2004 and roberts is a STRIKER not a winger how many time do i have to say this Your point? Does that mean that he can't be good in another position? If he's good enough for the position then play him there, regardless of his favoured or best position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riaz Posted January 27, 2004 Author Report Share Posted January 27, 2004 And you think that Marvin could do any better? I'm not saying that Robbo is a great winger but he is definately IMO much better on the wing than Marvin. Although I'm basing my opinion of Marvin's wing play on 45 minutes of football. 45 minutes is not enough and Marvin should have more of a chance, not to mention he has been playing on the right for the reserves all season. Christian Roberts has had plenty of chances and has proved that he cannot cross and should'nt be on the right. Dont get me wrong hes a good player but should'n play as a winger but as a striker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
myoudale Posted January 27, 2004 Report Share Posted January 27, 2004 i am bascicly saying that roberts is a striker and he evan says he prefers to play there we have goodfellow on the right so simple peacock or miller could be dropped for roberts to go score some goals for us he wont 1st team football so he will score and we dont need a striker out on the wing when we have goodfellow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy g Posted January 27, 2004 Report Share Posted January 27, 2004 Good idea - either Roberts or Marvin on the right and Goodfellow on the left. And you can hardly say its wrong to play Roberts or Marvin out of position and complain that they shoot instead of crossing if youre accepting that we use Goodfellow (a striker being played out of position who will shoot instead of crossing) as a winger too ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elhombrecito Posted January 27, 2004 Report Share Posted January 27, 2004 i am bascicly saying that roberts is a striker and he evan says he prefers to play there we have goodfellow on the right so simple peacock or miller could be dropped for roberts to go score some goals for us he wont 1st team football so he will score and we dont need a striker out on the wing when we have goodfellow The whole point of the arguement was what we wwould do if Danny were to drop Aaron - the obvious thing being to push Freezer over onto his more natural left side, so saying that we have Goodfellow on the right isn't really relevant to this discussion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lordofthebling Posted January 27, 2004 Report Share Posted January 27, 2004 45 minutes is not enough and Marvin should have more of a chance, not to mention he has been playing on the right for the reserves all season. Christian Roberts has had plenty of chances and has proved that he cannot cross and should'nt be on the right. Dont get me wrong hes a good player but should'n play as a winger but as a striker. doesnt he get a chance with the reserves?! Surely we have a (touch wood) winning formula, why change it every week?! Reward the players who are playing well, and confidence will be as sky high as our position come may! Take it easy... My midfield, if i was DW would be: Tommy in fornt of a 3 man defence and Roberts/Wilkshire/Tinman/Goodfellow. Hey i aint the manager! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riaz Posted January 27, 2004 Author Report Share Posted January 27, 2004 I was making the suggestion to i) give marvin a chance ii) encourage aaron brown to play well consistency. KILLING TWO BIRDS WITH ONE STONE??!! Roberts has has his fair share of chances (not saying he played badly), but why have all these young players on our books if we dont give them a chance. Danny Wilson in his first couple of years was doing so (Coles, Hill, Woodman) - but not for the last year or so for some reason (Fortune, Brown etc) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
myoudale Posted January 27, 2004 Report Share Posted January 27, 2004 The whole point of the arguement was what we wwould do if Danny were to drop Aaron - the obvious thing being to push Freezer over onto his more natural left side, so saying that we have Goodfellow on the right isn't really relevant to this discussion. ok sorry miss red but i wouldnt put roberts on the right he doesnt get into the game as much as he does when he playing up front another option is give hawkins 45 min see what he looks like if he impresses use him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lordofthebling Posted January 27, 2004 Report Share Posted January 27, 2004 why at this stage of the season do people wanna "put him in there and sees what he looks like?" Thats what the reserves are for, and I'm sure danny has seen him and marvin play in training, and decides to play roberts. Aaron however seems to be playing left midfield, so to kill one bird with half a stone, i would put goodfellow out there as he seems to be on fire right now... I did hear a lot of abuse thrown at Aaron when i was last at the gate, frustration i presume - however why is he like this? Lack of motivation? Wishing he was at WBA? I dunno....?! I would mess around with the reserves, but leave the big stuff to a formula thats working and winning... as thats fine by me... Take it easy... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lordofthebling Posted January 27, 2004 Report Share Posted January 27, 2004 Look at me on my soap box! Take it easy... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riaz Posted January 27, 2004 Author Report Share Posted January 27, 2004 Were on a winning run, but we wont continue to win forever and IF aarons seems un-interested as he has a tendancy to do, then give him a reminder his place isn't concrete - stop him getting too complancent - It was a suggestion for one match. If he plays terribly sub him for aaron. He certainly did'nt play terribly at notts co. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bucksred Posted January 27, 2004 Report Share Posted January 27, 2004 Were on a winning run, but we wont continue to win forever and IF aarons seems un-interested as he has a tendancy to do, then give him a reminder his place isn't concrete - stop him getting too complancent - It was a suggestion for one match. If he plays terribly sub him for aaron. He certainly did'nt play terribly at notts co. He did according to The Times Monday, the report made him Stinker of the Match, andd Matty Hill Blinder, incidentally all reports made him MOM. Aaron is a bench sub, while you got the likes of Goodfella, and Robbo around, as is Marvin. Play your strengths, which Marvin does have occasionally, but for the most part he is a weakness, so play Goodfella, Tins, Doc, and Robbo tonite, aand when he's back Wilks instead of Doc.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riaz Posted January 27, 2004 Author Report Share Posted January 27, 2004 He did according to The Times Monday, the report made him Stinker of the Match, andd Matty Hill Blinder, incidentally all reports made him MOM. Aaron is a bench sub, while you got the likes of Goodfella, and Robbo around, as is Marvin. Play your strengths, which Marvin does have occasionally, but for the most part he is a weakness, so play Goodfella, Tins, Doc, and Robbo tonite, aand when he's back Wilks instead of Doc.. Definately not robbo - he'll waste to many attacks playing on the right! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Neo Posted January 27, 2004 Report Share Posted January 27, 2004 Couple of general points; no specific order :- Roberts has not been given a consistent run on the right for anybody to justifiably say he cannot play there. Goodfellow is not supplying service from the right as he is too 1 footed and should be on the left where he can score and supply. The Roberts is a striker statement is not giving the player much credit. Paul Warhurst "the Central Defender" made the England team as a "striker". We were nearly interested in this striker as an experienced "Central Midfielder". Many players (such as a French right-winger; Thierry something), have made a successful transition to another position with appropriate coaching and a decent run in the side. I firmly believe Roberts is improving and can improve further in a different role. Also, Marvin is very inexperienced. Would you really want to throw him in at this point of the season? IMO, the only change needed in the side is Goodfellow on the left and Roberts on the right IF Aaron does not improve within the next couple of games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riaz Posted January 27, 2004 Author Report Share Posted January 27, 2004 Couple of general points; no specific order :- Roberts has not been given a consistent run on the right for anybody to justifiably say he cannot play there. Goodfellow is not supplying service from the right as he is too 1 footed and should be on the left where he can score and supply. The Roberts is a striker statement is not giving the player much credit. Paul Warhurst "the Central Defender" made the England team as a "striker". We were nearly interested in this striker as an experienced "Central Midfielder". Many players (such as a French right-winger; Thierry something), have made a successful transition to another position with appropriate coaching and a decent run in the side. I firmly believe Roberts is improving and can improve further in a different role. Also, Marvin is very inexperienced. Would you really want to throw him in at this point of the season? IMO, the only change needed in the side is Goodfellow on the left and Roberts on the right IF Aaron does not improve within the next couple of games. i) Roberts had a run in the first team on the right, thats why we bought goodfellow. ii) Admittedly does cut in but not all the time, and he CAN use his right foot. iii) how does Marvin Brown get experience? by playing iiii) there are players such as Warhurst, who are versatile - Roberts is not one of them. dont get me wrong he did okay and was the right player to use whilst looking for someone to play there. He should now stick to playing up front Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Neo Posted January 27, 2004 Report Share Posted January 27, 2004 i) Roberts had a run in the first team on the right, thats why we bought goodfellow. ii) Admittedly does cut in but not all the time, and he CAN use his right foot. iii) how does Marvin Brown get experience? by playing iiii) there are players such as Warhurst, who are versatile - Roberts is not one of them. dont get me wrong he did okay and was the right player to use whilst looking for someone to play there. He should now stick to playing up front i) I don't call being permanently swapped between up-front, wing and subs bench a decent run in the team in a new position ii) Yes he can use his right foot if you count "for standing on" iii) I never asked how does he get experience. I merely stated that he is inexperienced and it might not be the best time to throw him in. You know as well as I do what our fans are like; if he makes a couple of cock-ups, do you think he will get shouts of "head up Marvin" or "get that useless ###### off"? I think the latter, draining his confidence from day 1 iv) I stay believe we do not have full evidence of that. Yes he made mistakes at right wing (and many of them). He also definitely got better in that position as the games went on. I will continue to maintain (forever probably) that he has not had a real continuous run of games there, hence, the chance to prove he can adapt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest SuttonRed Posted January 27, 2004 Report Share Posted January 27, 2004 I think Rizza G's view is about right on this one. Marvin should get a run. The only question I would ask is regarding Aaron's "inconsitency", I think he has been remarkably consistent this season and that would justify a place firmly in the reserves!! Someone mentioned that he played well at Meadow lane, I have to disagree on that, he wasn't terrible by any stretch of the imagination, but he was hardly the key to county's downfall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riaz Posted January 27, 2004 Author Report Share Posted January 27, 2004 ii) Yes he can use his right foot if you count "for standing on" What did he do with is right foot tonite from about 16 yards? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bemmyred Posted January 27, 2004 Report Share Posted January 27, 2004 What an insult to Goodfellow ! ( unless he was carrying an injury. ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bcfc seattle Posted January 27, 2004 Report Share Posted January 27, 2004 Marvin should have got a run of games from the start of last season. At this point they should do the honorable thing and let him go somewhere else on a free. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bemmyred Posted January 27, 2004 Report Share Posted January 27, 2004 Anyone for Aaron Brown!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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