headhunter Posted November 4, 2005 Report Share Posted November 4, 2005 Couldn't help but form the view that Tins was critical of Millen on last night's Soccer Night.Take these two [as accurate as I can remember] quotes :".... I was told ,that's the team you work with".".... I needed more experienced help".He pretty much said too that he was told to give up playing and concentrate on the management side.Who remembers the Chesterfield game last season when from Tins reaction at the post match press conference saw him none to pleased to be subbed by Millen when City were on a Tinnion inspired role in the closing stages of the match.Interestingly Pitman said nothing much has changed behind the scenes in the [now] 6 weeks that Johnson has been here.And therein lies the problem....Who was and still is our SPECIALIST defensive coach ? MILLENWhat part of the team is particularly shocking ? The defence - conceding 2 goals per gameWhat's the solution [other than perhaps having a settled team ] - GET RID OF MILLEN !!!Johnson is, IMHO, a manager out of the Keegan mould - motivator not tactician HE needs a decent coach alongisde him ; City made a big mistake in not getting his assistant at Yeovil: THOMPSONAnyone think the same ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Cloud Posted November 4, 2005 Report Share Posted November 4, 2005 There is one constant through last season and so far this one - Millen. Why has no-one been hounding him out of HIS job in the manner that they hounded Tins out. His name has hardly been mentioned on here. I personally was happy with Tins appointment as manager but crushed when he took millen as his assistant. How long will we continue to berate the players for being unfit, useless, drinkers who don't give a stuff for the club when their coach must surely take responsibility for their performance? Why is GJ publicly humiliate the players on a regular basis for their lack of this and lack of that but never mention the coach?PS i am not stuck in the attic red - just his wife who has listened to him moan every single saturday (except one) for the last 2+ seasons Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brianred Posted November 4, 2005 Report Share Posted November 4, 2005 Couldn't help but form the view that Tins was critical of Millen on last night's Soccer Night.Take these two [as accurate as I can remember] quotes :".... I was told ,that's the team you work with".".... I needed more experienced help".He pretty much said too that he was told to give up playing and concentrate on the management side.Who remembers the Chesterfield game last season when from Tins reaction at the post match press conference saw him none to pleased to be subbed by Millen when City were on a Tinnion inspired role in the closing stages of the match.Interestingly Pitman said nothing much has changed behind the scenes in the [now] 6 weeks that Johnson has been here.And therein lies the problem....Who was and still is our SPECIALIST defensive coach ? MILLENWhat part of the team is particularly shocking ? The defence - conceding 2 goals per gameWhat's the solution [other than perhaps having a settled team ] - GET RID OF MILLEN !!!Johnson is, IMHO, a manager out of the Keegan mould - motivator not tactician HE needs a decent coach alongisde him ; City made a big mistake in not getting his assistant at Yeovil: THOMPSONAnyone think the same ? He has not brought nothing to the team, the defence looks like it's being ignored. GJ has to look at all the coaching staff besides the players, unless he has been told he has to work with what he's got as well? It seems to me our Chairman wants to have the last say on everything. I think GJ will do his thing with the backing of the fans. and yeah MILLEN is a waste. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simez Posted November 4, 2005 Report Share Posted November 4, 2005 When Tins walked/was pushed I thought to myself that's Millen gone too. As far as I'm concerned Millen was part of the Tinman regime and was to blame along with Tinman so should have gone. Thompson would have come no doubt had he not got the Yeovil job, he couldn't turn the chance down though could he to be the main man at Yeovil.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taunton_City Posted November 4, 2005 Report Share Posted November 4, 2005 Agree with all that 100% Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lordofthebling Posted November 4, 2005 Report Share Posted November 4, 2005 Who chose Millen?Exactly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedTauntonian Posted November 4, 2005 Report Share Posted November 4, 2005 Who chose Millen?Exactly.Wasn't it tins him self? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lordofthebling Posted November 4, 2005 Report Share Posted November 4, 2005 Exactly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fRed Posted November 4, 2005 Report Share Posted November 4, 2005 Was Tinnion forced to have an assistant who was already at the club? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simez Posted November 4, 2005 Report Share Posted November 4, 2005 Was Tinnion forced to have an assistant who was already at the club? Exactly, could the board have said to Tins you can have anyone as your number 2 as long as it's Millen. I don't believe for one moment that Millen would have been his number one choice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tin Posted November 4, 2005 Report Share Posted November 4, 2005 So, hang on a sec... has Tinnion even accepted any part in the demise of the club? Seems like he's blaming everyone else Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ashtonyate Posted November 4, 2005 Report Share Posted November 4, 2005 I don't think Tinnion was having a go at Millen he was having a go at the board I think he was told to work with the present staff, when you are give a job as an unexperance Manager you can't put too many conditions down. I think everyone including Tinnion can see now he should have had a mentor, some one who has been through it at his side Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozo Posted November 4, 2005 Report Share Posted November 4, 2005 So, hang on a sec... has Tinnion even accepted any part in the demise of the club? Seems like he's blaming everyone else He didn't blame anyone. He said he accepted that the job came to early for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lordofthebling Posted November 4, 2005 Report Share Posted November 4, 2005 Exactly, could the board have said to Tins you can have anyone as your number 2 as long as it's Millen. I don't believe for one moment that Millen would have been his number one choice.Riiiggghhttt.....So. Tinnion is forced to appoint Millen.They mess up.SL searches for a more experienced director - a la Graham Taylor.Pointless or was Tinnion forced? I think he chose Millen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swindon Hater Posted November 4, 2005 Report Share Posted November 4, 2005 Riiiggghhttt.....So. Tinnion is forced to appoint Millen.They mess up.SL searches for a more experienced director - a la Graham Taylor.Pointless or was Tinnion forced? I think he chose Millen.No-one knows what goes on behind the club, me or you, so why act so smart? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lordofthebling Posted November 4, 2005 Report Share Posted November 4, 2005 How am I acting smart?I just mentioned what I thought.If Simez is correct in the fact that Tinnion was forced to appoint Millen (I'm not saying he or she isnt) - then that is false economy. Thats what the Riiiggghhhtt was about. Shocked at SL's decisions if true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swindon Hater Posted November 4, 2005 Report Share Posted November 4, 2005 Shocked at SL's decisions if true.I'm certainly not shocked if it's true! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtraveller Posted November 4, 2005 Report Share Posted November 4, 2005 when gary has done his report on the club i think there will be changes and millen will be gone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mercury Posted November 4, 2005 Report Share Posted November 4, 2005 when gary has done his report on the club i think there will be changes and millen will be gone.Millen is GJ's mate, GJ said himself that he and millen regularly talked on the phone. He if was going to get shot of him, surely he would have as soon as he joined BCFC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ballboy_1 Posted November 4, 2005 Report Share Posted November 4, 2005 i have to agree GET RID OF MILLEN !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickJ Posted November 4, 2005 Report Share Posted November 4, 2005 when gary has done his report on the club i think there will be changes and millen will be gone.Weren't Millen and Johnson both at Watford at the same time? Probably doesnt mean anything, but just a thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nibor Posted November 4, 2005 Report Share Posted November 4, 2005 Can anyone actually offer a reasonable explanation as to what they think Millen does wrong?Or is it just a load of assumptions again?Nibor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brianred Posted November 4, 2005 Report Share Posted November 4, 2005 Can anyone actually offer a reasonable explanation as to what they think Millen does wrong?Or is it just a load of assumptions again?NiborIs millen a coach ? and was he a defender? and have we got the best or even a defence that we can call good? is he an assistant manager ? or just a waste of space! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nibor Posted November 4, 2005 Report Share Posted November 4, 2005 Is millen a coach ? and was he a defender? and have we got the best or even a defence that we can call good? is he an assistant manager ? or just a waste of space!He's an assistant manager not a coach although I'd imagine he coaches.He's the most qualified coach we have.Is it automatically the coach's fault when professional players fail to do things I was taught to do when I was 10?Does the fact that he used to be a defender mean that he's solely responsible for the performance of the back 4, who he doesn't pick and who are rarely the same lineup?Anyway, I guess you answered my original question for me with a No and Yes respectively.Nibor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiwicolin Posted November 4, 2005 Report Share Posted November 4, 2005 Wasn't it tins him self?allegedly?????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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