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Marcus stewart - previous club managers - George Burley, Mick McCarthy

Micheal Bridges - - David O'Leary, Terry Venables, Mick McCarthy

Keith Gillespie - - Gerrard Houllier

Jamie Smith- -Ian Dowie (keegan whilst on loan to fullham)

Bradley Orr - Bobby Robson

Partridge -John Toshack (wales)

Louis Carey - Peter Ried

alot of current City players have played under some pretty high profile managers in the past, managers who deserve to be managers in the higher leauges because of their proffesionall approach to there players. Bridges under O'Leary played in the champions leugue, Stewart had a crack at Europe with Ipswhich under Burley whilst the younger players learnt under great managers such at Houllier and Bobby Robson..

Danny Wilson had respect of almost all his sqaud becasue Wilson had earnt that right.. Getting Barsnley promoted to the premiership and having that years experience of a premiership manager with them and a short spell at Sheff Weds must have helped the players recognise that Wilson had faith in them to do well. missing out on promotion by one game after a few good seasons and alot of the players were sad to see Wilson go and from the day Wilson went city took a huge step backwards by appointing Brian Tinnion. It showed, his tactics were just not right, players knew Tinnion wasnt the right man with the right experience so they just stopped playing for him...

STEP in GJ.. For all the players at BCFC this is huge step backwards.. from playing under qaulity managers in the past this must have been an insult.. to learn they will be playing under a manager who has got a lower league club promoted twice must have been appealing bu still a step backwards.. Has this man had any experience at a higher level they asked? not really they answered.. Latvia, harldy premiership or European experience is it.. for players like Stewart and Bridges they must have been laughing..

So Johnson took the reighns and from day one took the biscuit...From day one the morale in the camp went sour.. Head first he went in, telling the sqaud this is how I did it at Yeovil, this is how i'l do it here.. One problem Gary, look at your players at Yeovil.. all fairytale boys, every match was like a cup match there, great crowd support an a good board of directors behind you.. but now your here at the gate.. Finding it difficult Gary.. Indeed you are... Fans like ou will never come across again, will only support you if in the top half of the table, a board who will only get behind you untill the fans pressure gets to much for the chairman, players who only work well at this club by being managed by a proffesional experienced managment and coaching team like under Ward and Wilson..

Pulis made the same mistake as Johnson and look what happend. unhappy dressing room, player departures, lack of effort from the players. just go's to show Bristol City Football club doesnt need managers who come in straight away with the whips. Players at our club deserve respect from their boss even if they are having a run of bad form. However, Johnson has time to change as h now knows his whipping boy tactics are completely backfiring on him, not only from players but fans aswell.

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These are meant to be football professionals.

They're paid to do a job and do it well. If they're not prepared to work because they have issues with the track record of the manager and having been told some justified home truths then they should go.

These days I don't expect passion for the club and blind loyalty out of these career footballers.

But if they want to abuse this club by taking the money and not putting the performance in then that's inexcusable.

Simple.

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I don't think they were disrespectful from the start because he was inexperianced at managing at our level. But I am sure they are using it to justify to themselves why they shouldn't have to listen to his criticism of them.

Don't fall into the trap of letting the current squad of players sway your opnion of GJ.

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Marcus stewart - previous club managers - George Burley, Mick McCarthy

Micheal Bridges - - David O'Leary, Terry Venables, Mick McCarthy

Keith Gillespie - - Gerrard Houllier

Jamie Smith- -Ian Dowie (keegan whilst on loan to fullham)

Bradley Orr - Bobby Robson

Partridge -John Toshack (wales)

Louis Carey - Peter Ried

alot of current City players have played under some pretty high profile managers in the past, managers who deserve to be managers in the higher leauges because of their proffesionall approach to there players. Bridges under O'Leary played in the champions leugue, Stewart had a crack at Europe with Ipswhich under Burley whilst the younger players learnt under great managers such at Houllier and Bobby Robson..

Danny Wilson had respect of almost all his sqaud becasue Wilson had earnt that right.. Getting Barsnley promoted to the premiership and having that years experience of a premiership manager with them and a short spell at Sheff Weds must have helped the players recognise that Wilson had faith in them to do well. missing out on promotion by one game after a few good seasons and alot of the players were sad to see Wilson go and from the day Wilson went city took a huge step backwards by appointing Brian Tinnion. It showed, his tactics were just not right, players knew Tinnion wasnt the right man with the right experience so they just stopped playing for him...

STEP in GJ.. For all the players at BCFC this is huge step backwards.. from playing under qaulity managers in the past this must have been an insult.. to learn they will be playing under a manager who has got a lower league club promoted twice must have been appealing bu still a step backwards.. Has this man had any experience at a higher level they asked? not really they answered.. Latvia, harldy premiership or European experience is it.. for players like Stewart and Bridges they must have been laughing..

So Johnson took the reighns and from day one took the biscuit...From day one the morale in the camp went sour.. Head first he went in, telling the sqaud this is how I did it at Yeovil, this is how i'l do it here.. One problem Gary, look at your players at Yeovil.. all fairytale boys, every match was like a cup match there, great crowd support an a good board of directors behind you.. but now your here at the gate.. Finding it difficult Gary.. Indeed you are... Fans like ou will never come across again, will only support you if in the top half of the table, a board who will only get behind you untill the fans pressure gets to much for the chairman, players who only work well at this club by being managed by a proffesional experienced managment and coaching team like under Ward and Wilson..

Pulis made the same mistake as Johnson and look what happend. unhappy dressing room, player departures, lack of effort from the players. just go's to show Bristol City Football club doesnt need managers who come in straight away with the whips. Players at our club deserve respect from their boss even if they are having a run of bad form. However, Johnson has time to change as h now knows his whipping boy tactics are completely backfiring on him, not only from players but fans aswell.

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absolute dross. you seem to believe the spineless , gutless , passionless could,nt careless bunch of namby pamby players at the gate are some sort of TIN GODS , ? NO player is bigger than this club or the fans, just paid more, and not performing for their money at the moment . why has bristol city got so many player apologists, amongst its fanbase, ? if the players are infantile enough to think they are bigger than the club and manager :dance::dance: then crieky we have got a problem , NONE of them are BIG names for christ sake, perhaps only in their own overblown minds, and those of some city fans that like to tell everyone they personally know a city player :doh::doh: . if the players are not playing for gary because they THINK THEY ARE BIGGER THAN HIM AND THE CLUB,then relegation is a cert , and crowds of 5,000 or less (real figures ) , the whole lot need some sort of reality check , and some fans too it seem. s

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alot of current City players have played under some pretty high profile managers in the past, managers who deserve to be managers in the higher leauges because of their proffesionall approach to there players. Bridges under O'Leary played in the champions leugue, Stewart had a crack at Europe with Ipswhich under Burley whilst the younger players learnt under great managers such at Houllier and Bobby Robson..

But they are now playing for a third division side, and as such should lose any delusions of grandeur and accept that they now have to work for a manager that has managed at this level. Gary Johnson does not need to have taken a team to the semi finals of the Champions League to manage at Bristol City. And certainly shouldn't have managed a premiership side to command respect. A professional person in any walk of life should do their job to the best of their ability and not undermine their manager because their manager from five years ago had more experience.

Remember that this club has languished in the third division for long enough and Gary Johnson has been tasked with changing the club totally in an attempt to alter this. He is not here to improve results in a honeymoon period, but to restructure in an attempt to propel us upwards. When fundemental reforms are made in any business, performance tends to drop off before heading upwards. I am not saying that this is guaranteed, but we cannot judge at this early stage.

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alot of current City players have played under some pretty high profile managers in the past, managers who deserve to be managers in the higher leauges because of their proffesionall approach to there players. Bridges under O'Leary played in the champions leugue, Stewart had a crack at Europe with Ipswhich under Burley whilst the younger players learnt under great managers such at Houllier and Bobby Robson..

But they are now playing for a third division side, and as such should lose any delusions of grandeur and accept that they now have to work for a manager that has managed at this level. Gary Johnson does not need to have taken a team to the semi finals of the Champions League to manage at Bristol City. And certainly shouldn't have managed a premiership side to command respect. A professional person in any walk of life should do their job to the best of their ability and not undermine their manager because their manager from five years ago had more experience.

Remember that this club has languished in the third division for long enough and Gary Johnson has been tasked with changing the club totally in an attempt to alter this. He is not here to improve results in a honeymoon period, but to restructure in an attempt to propel us upwards. When fundemental reforms are made in any business, performance tends to drop off before heading upwards. I am not saying that this is guaranteed, but we cannot judge at this early stage.

well said mate , excellent post .

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That initial post by City Legend Man really made me squirm - Danny Wilson a good manager? Pull the other one !!!!!! Well done to Danny Wilson for getting Sheffield Wednesday relegated with such great talent in their side and well done for being at the centre of 1,000's of complaint letters from their fans. :dance:

One name: Paulo Di Canio of Sheffield Wednesday - Danny Wilson couldn't handle that great talent and was only really happy at BCFC because we had a team of near nobodies at the club. Probably why Leroy Lita wasn't even on the bench at the play-off final because Danny Wilson couldn't handle him as he couldn't handle Di Canio. It was Brian Tinnion that truely recognised Lita's talents and gave him the BCFC starts to launch his England career.

Well done Danny Wilson for wasting 4 seasons for us in poxy old Div 3 - if Wilson was any good he would of got us promoted with all the money and lavish resources at his disposal !!!! Where is Wilson now? - MK Dongs, doesn't that say something of his 'great' managerial talent? :laugh:

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Marcus stewart - previous club managers - George Burley, Mick McCarthy

Micheal Bridges - - David O'Leary, Terry Venables, Mick McCarthy

Keith Gillespie - - Gerrard Houllier

Jamie Smith- -Ian Dowie (keegan whilst on loan to fullham)

Bradley Orr - Bobby Robson

Partridge -John Toshack (wales)

Louis Carey - Peter Ried

alot of current City players have played under some pretty high profile managers in the past, managers who deserve to be managers in the higher leauges because of their proffesionall approach to there players. Bridges under O'Leary played in the champions leugue, Stewart had a crack at Europe with Ipswhich under Burley whilst the younger players learnt under great managers such at Houllier and Bobby Robson..

Danny Wilson had respect of almost all his sqaud becasue Wilson had earnt that right.. Getting Barsnley promoted to the premiership and having that years experience of a premiership manager with them and a short spell at Sheff Weds must have helped the players recognise that Wilson had faith in them to do well. missing out on promotion by one game after a few good seasons and alot of the players were sad to see Wilson go and from the day Wilson went city took a huge step backwards by appointing Brian Tinnion. It showed, his tactics were just not right, players knew Tinnion wasnt the right man with the right experience so they just stopped playing for him...

STEP in GJ.. For all the players at BCFC this is huge step backwards.. from playing under qaulity managers in the past this must have been an insult.. to learn they will be playing under a manager who has got a lower league club promoted twice must have been appealing bu still a step backwards.. Has this man had any experience at a higher level they asked? not really they answered.. Latvia, harldy premiership or European experience is it.. for players like Stewart and Bridges they must have been laughing..

So Johnson took the reighns and from day one took the biscuit...From day one the morale in the camp went sour.. Head first he went in, telling the sqaud this is how I did it at Yeovil, this is how i'l do it here.. One problem Gary, look at your players at Yeovil.. all fairytale boys, every match was like a cup match there, great crowd support an a good board of directors behind you.. but now your here at the gate.. Finding it difficult Gary.. Indeed you are... Fans like ou will never come across again, will only support you if in the top half of the table, a board who will only get behind you untill the fans pressure gets to much for the chairman, players who only work well at this club by being managed by a proffesional experienced managment and coaching team like under Ward and Wilson..

Pulis made the same mistake as Johnson and look what happend. unhappy dressing room, player departures, lack of effort from the players. just go's to show Bristol City Football club doesnt need managers who come in straight away with the whips. Players at our club deserve respect from their boss even if they are having a run of bad form. However, Johnson has time to change as h now knows his whipping boy tactics are completely backfiring on him, not only from players but fans aswell.

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The real reason is GJ alienated virtually the entire squad by saying they were cr*p. He has tried to rebuild Rome in a day, instead of slowly. You have/had capable players, who could have adapted to what GJ wanted (although you are lacking some pace) Bringing in loanees who hafe a safe job elsewhere are hardly going to fight til the death

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The real reason is GJ alienated virtually the entire squad by saying they were cr*p. He has tried to rebuild Rome in a day, instead of slowly. You have/had capable players, who could have adapted to what GJ wanted (although you are lacking some pace) Bringing in loanees who hafe a safe job elsewhere are hardly going to fight til the death

Sprout if we had/have capable players why were we 2nd bottom, fresh from a 7-1 defeat when Johnson took over ?? How many managers would we need to get through till someone thought about the common denominator ???

We don't have a "very good" full back, winger or defensive player in our ENTIRE SQUAD. We have no pace. Between then our 2 top scorers have scored 9 goals.

Our "fantastic squad" is an urban myth up there with the lad that wakes from a night out to find he has had a kidney removed (actually that one is true, it happened to a mate of a mate.......... honest).

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The real reason is GJ alienated virtually the entire squad by saying they were cr*p. He has tried to rebuild Rome in a day, instead of slowly. You have/had capable players, who could have adapted to what GJ wanted (although you are lacking some pace) Bringing in loanees who hafe a safe job elsewhere are hardly going to fight til the death

As much as it pains me to agree, the saghead's right, there was/is abilty in the squad, it just needs the right man to pull the right strings to get it working, is that man GJ.? If it is I hope he does it sooner rather than later.!

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Marcus stewart - previous club managers - George Burley, Mick McCarthy

Micheal Bridges - - David O'Leary, Terry Venables, Mick McCarthy

Keith Gillespie - - Gerrard Houllier

Jamie Smith- -Ian Dowie (keegan whilst on loan to fullham)

Bradley Orr - Bobby Robson

Partridge -John Toshack (wales)

Louis Carey - Peter Ried

alot of current City players have played under some pretty high profile managers in the past, managers who deserve to be managers in the higher leauges because of their proffesionall approach to there players. Bridges under O'Leary played in the champions leugue, Stewart had a crack at Europe with Ipswhich under Burley whilst the younger players learnt under great managers such at Houllier and Bobby Robson..

Danny Wilson had respect of almost all his sqaud becasue Wilson had earnt that right.. Getting Barsnley promoted to the premiership and having that years experience of a premiership manager with them and a short spell at Sheff Weds must have helped the players recognise that Wilson had faith in them to do well. missing out on promotion by one game after a few good seasons and alot of the players were sad to see Wilson go and from the day Wilson went city took a huge step backwards by appointing Brian Tinnion. It showed, his tactics were just not right, players knew Tinnion wasnt the right man with the right experience so they just stopped playing for him...

STEP in GJ.. For all the players at BCFC this is huge step backwards.. from playing under qaulity managers in the past this must have been an insult.. to learn they will be playing under a manager who has got a lower league club promoted twice must have been appealing bu still a step backwards.. Has this man had any experience at a higher level they asked? not really they answered.. Latvia, harldy premiership or European experience is it.. for players like Stewart and Bridges they must have been laughing..

So Johnson took the reighns and from day one took the biscuit...From day one the morale in the camp went sour.. Head first he went in, telling the sqaud this is how I did it at Yeovil, this is how i'l do it here.. One problem Gary, look at your players at Yeovil.. all fairytale boys, every match was like a cup match there, great crowd support an a good board of directors behind you.. but now your here at the gate.. Finding it difficult Gary.. Indeed you are... Fans like ou will never come across again, will only support you if in the top half of the table, a board who will only get behind you untill the fans pressure gets to much for the chairman, players who only work well at this club by being managed by a proffesional experienced managment and coaching team like under Ward and Wilson..

Pulis made the same mistake as Johnson and look what happend. unhappy dressing room, player departures, lack of effort from the players. just go's to show Bristol City Football club doesnt need managers who come in straight away with the whips. Players at our club deserve respect from their boss even if they are having a run of bad form. However, Johnson has time to change as h now knows his whipping boy tactics are completely backfiring on him, not only from players but fans aswell.

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What utter RUBBISH!!!!

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As much as it pains me to agree, the saghead's right, there was/is abilty in the squad, it just needs the right man to pull the right strings to get it working, is that man GJ.? If it is I hope he does it sooner rather than later.!

Tinnions wasn't the right man, Johnsons not the right man............

What we need is somone that will give the lads a cuddle & a team talk along the lines of

"ok boys we're looking doomed for relegation. We got knocked out of every cup at the 1st hurdle, each time to a lower league club & twice despite the fact we had home advantage. Don't let any of that play on your mind, you are blameless. Some fans moan that perhaps we aren't delivering VFM bearing in mind we probably have 1 of the the highest wage bills in the league, but hey you don't judge the fans on what they earn, why should they do so to you. Oh one last thing, if anyone fancies trying a move to a higher level you can do it under the special City "failure return" scheme - basically you go to another club for more money, fail to last a season - we then guarantee to bring you back & let you stay in the 1st team even though you look as though you can't be bothered anymore. See Scott or Louis for full details".

David Brent seems the ideal candidate to me ??

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Tinnions wasn't the right man, Johnsons not the right man............

What we need is somone that will give the lads a cuddle & a team talk along the lines of

"ok boys we're looking doomed for relegation. We got knocked out of every cup at the 1st hurdle, each time to a lower league club & twice despite the fact we had home advantage. Don't let any of that play on your mind, you are blameless. Some fans moan that perhaps we aren't delivering VFM bearing in mind we probably have 1 of the the highest wage bills in the league, but hey you don't judge the fans on what they earn, why should they do so to you. Oh one last thing, if anyone fancies trying a move to a higher level you can do it under the special City "failure return" scheme - basically you go to another club for more money, fail to last a season - we then guarantee to bring you back & let you stay in the 1st team even though you look as though you can't be bothered anymore. See Scott or Louis for full details".

David Brent seems the ideal candidate to me ??

:w00t::w00t::w00t::whistle: Nice post Sir and all too true. One of the very real problems for Gary Johnson is the fact that even with the best eleven BCFC players playing to their full abilities they would still be trounced by the better teams in this division. Tight arse Steve Lansdown and Keith Dawe really will need to help Gary Johnson out come the January transfer window with a decent amount of cash to buy decent players or else we'll certainly be relegated !!!!!!!!!

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absolute dross. you seem to believe the spineless , gutless , passionless could,nt careless bunch of namby pamby players at the gate are some sort of TIN GODS , ? NO player is bigger than this club or the fans, just paid more, and not performing for their money at the moment . why has bristol city got so many player apologists, amongst its fanbase, ? if the players are infantile enough to think they are bigger than the club and manager :dance::dance: then crieky we have got a problem , NONE of them are BIG names for christ sake, perhaps only in their own overblown minds, and those of some city fans that like to tell everyone they personally know a city player :doh::doh: . if the players are not playing for gary because they THINK THEY ARE BIGGER THAN HIM AND THE CLUB,then relegation is a cert , and crowds of 5,000 or less (real figures ) , the whole lot need some sort of reality check , and some fans too it seem. s

I agree that the players have to shoulder a lot of the blame for the current mess we are in. But I cannot see how Gary Johnson is "blameless" in all of this either. To think so would make you a "manager apologist" in my opinion. In the last few weeks in particular it has become obvious that Johnson is feeling the pressure. His obvious frustration has boiled over into public criticism of players (name me a good manager who does that on a regular basis), signing some extremely average loan players, constant personnel and formation alterations (no better than Tinnion) and throwing grenades in the dressing room and then coming out on the radio and saying so. His treatment of Cotterill at Doncaster last Saturday was a disgrace and gives me the impression he does not have the first clue how to deal with young players. I thought that Lansdown sent a clear message out to Johnson when he went down to the dressing room after the Swindon game to congratulate the players for the ten man battling performance. Since then he has been less public in his criticism but unfortunately he seems to have reached the point of no return with the players. He has lost the dressing room just like Tinnion - that does not make the players right but it seems to be a fact. We are in deep trouble unless Johnson and the players can bury the hatchet and BOTH start performing for the fans rather than their own collective/individual ego's.

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Good shout - I hate all this criticise the players you inherit a la Pulis. I also don't like this "I'm going to bring in some proper players in January" stuff. What message is that sending to the current squad? If I had a new manager who came in and started to criticise and talk of new blood I don't think I'd go the extra mile.

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I agree that the players have to shoulder a lot of the blame for the current mess we are in. But I cannot see how Gary Johnson is "blameless" in all of this either. To think so would make you a "manager apologist" in my opinion. In the last few weeks in particular it has become obvious that Johnson is feeling the pressure. His obvious frustration has boiled over into public criticism of players (name me a good manager who does that on a regular basis), signing some extremely average loan players, constant personnel and formation alterations (no better than Tinnion) and throwing grenades in the dressing room and then coming out on the radio and saying so. His treatment of Cotterill at Doncaster last Saturday was a disgrace and gives me the impression he does not have the first clue how to deal with young players. I thought that Lansdown sent a clear message out to Johnson when he went down to the dressing room after the Swindon game to congratulate the players for the ten man battling performance. Since then he has been less public in his criticism but unfortunately he seems to have reached the point of no return with the players. He has lost the dressing room just like Tinnion - that does not make the players right but it seems to be a fact. We are in deep trouble unless Johnson and the players can bury the hatchet and BOTH start performing for the fans rather than their own collective/individual ego's.

i agree with a lot of what you say mate, but do you REALLY think a player should go on the pitch ,and think : I'm not playing for the fans(10,000 paying customers ) or the club or anyone else cause i don't agree with the manager or the manager gave me a rollocking, ? please, !!!!!! :doh::doh::doh: . because thats what they are doing, NOT PERFORMING for the fans or club , and hav,ent all season . i assume i have their ages wrong , sounds like two year olds in the playground , the club is in crisis , and the players could,nt care less if your watching another set of bristol city players in division 2 next season .rolling over to a 7:1 defeat in swansea said they did,nt like tinnion, 8 defeats on the trot says they don,t like gary johnson, have we got to wait till we find a manager that ALL the players like before we win a game again, ? its player power gone mad at the gate , and destroying the club, if thats the case, :@ :@

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They all must respect that GJ is the Manager of Bristol City FC and if they don't like it they should go.

Just the same as many of us fans had to accept that BT was our Manager....... many fans didn't like it but.

Having played for higher profile or division Managers is not now the issue...... knuckle down team or leave?

If you as a player can really add something to the mix then offer it up to GJ & BCFC

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i agree with a lot of what you say mate, but do you REALLY think a player should go on the pitch ,and think : I'm not playing for the fans(10,000 paying customers ) or the club or anyone else cause i don't agree with the manager or the manager gave me a rollocking, ? please, !!!!!! :doh::doh::doh: . because thats what they are doing, NOT PERFORMING for the fans or club , and hav,ent all season . i assume i have their ages wrong , sounds like two year olds in the playground , the club is in crisis , and the players could,nt care less if your watching another set of bristol city players in division 2 next season .rolling over to a 7:1 defeat in swansea said they did,nt like tinnion, 8 defeats on the trot says they don,t like gary johnson, have we got to wait till we find a manager that ALL the players like before we win a game again, ? its player power gone mad at the gate , and destroying the club, if thats the case, :@ :@

Sure no player wants to lose 7-1 or even lose at all. But motivation is the key thing - he certainly isn't getting the best out of the players at the moment. We are playing against teams who are more motivated bthan we are. If the players aren't motivated by the manager they beither leave or the manager does - in business the manager would win every time. In football?

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That initial post by City Legend Man really made me squirm - Danny Wilson a good manager? Pull the other one !!!!!! Well done to Danny Wilson for getting Sheffield Wednesday relegated with such great talent in their side and well done for being at the centre of 1,000's of complaint letters from their fans. :dance:

One name: Paulo Di Canio of Sheffield Wednesday - Danny Wilson couldn't handle that great talent and was only really happy at BCFC because we had a team of near nobodies at the club. Probably why Leroy Lita wasn't even on the bench at the play-off final because Danny Wilson couldn't handle him as he couldn't handle Di Canio. It was Brian Tinnion that truely recognised Lita's talents and gave him the BCFC starts to launch his England career.

Well done Danny Wilson for wasting 4 seasons for us in poxy old Div 3 - if Wilson was any good he would of got us promoted with all the money and lavish resources at his disposal !!!! Where is Wilson now? - MK Dongs, doesn't that say something of his 'great' managerial talent? :laugh:

I'd sooner be watching us fighting in 3rd place again under Wilson than this dross!!!!

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Tight arse Steve Lansdown and Keith Dawe

A bit unfair, we have spent far more money on players over the past 3 years than most Clubs at our level - But it has not provided the promotion that we desire, just a heap of debt.

As regards motivating players, the thing that seems to be lacking is treating people as individuals. 'Hand greandes' may work with some, but others prefer a less confrontational approach. It seems to be emerging that 'His' players are getting preferential treatment over those signed before he arrived, and that can never be good for morale. Last season, we finished 7th, with much the same squad, so they cannot be as rubbish as he makes out. Also, we played well just after he took over, it was only once he started his scathing attacks and wanted to change everything that it started to go wrong, and I think that the damage might already have been done.

Once we get his 'I wanted him at Yeovil'players in January, what if it goes wrong? If we go down, saddled with even more debt, is that really good for the Club? We need to get players off the wage bill before bringing players in, will he manage that, or will our squad be huge? I just think that GJ tried to change too much too quickly, and his boasts have not been matched by results, and his huge 'I did this at Yeovil' attitude and ego have alienated a lot of people. Personally, I hope he shows humility and admits his mistakes and gives the players a chance between now and January to prove him wrong. Can't see it myself!

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Tight arse Steve Lansdown and Keith Dawe

A bit unfair, we have spent far more money on players over the past 3 years than most Clubs at our level - But it has not provided the promotion that we desire, just a heap of debt.

As regards motivating players, the thing that seems to be lacking is treating people as individuals. 'Hand greandes' may work with some, but others prefer a less confrontational approach. It seems to be emerging that 'His' players are getting preferential treatment over those signed before he arrived, and that can never be good for morale. Last season, we finished 7th, with much the same squad, so they cannot be as rubbish as he makes out. Also, we played well just after he took over, it was only once he started his scathing attacks and wanted to change everything that it started to go wrong, and I think that the damage might already have been done.

Once we get his 'I wanted him at Yeovil'players in January, what if it goes wrong? If we go down, saddled with even more debt, is that really good for the Club? We need to get players off the wage bill before bringing players in, will he manage that, or will our squad be huge? I just think that GJ tried to change too much too quickly, and his boasts have not been matched by results, and his huge 'I did this at Yeovil' attitude and ego have alienated a lot of people. Personally, I hope he shows humility and admits his mistakes and gives the players a chance between now and January to prove him wrong. Can't see it myself!

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