Dastardly and Muttley Posted January 5, 2006 Report Share Posted January 5, 2006 Apologies if this has been mentioned, but I haven't seen it! The Evil Post today has a quote from Holloway saying that QPR couldn't afford Stewie's wages! Are QPR in that much financial trouble, or are we really paying silly money for Stewart? Surely our club at this stage in its development shouldn't be paying wages above the budget of a club like QPR, who lets face it, are a good few years ahead of us at the moment.I really hope Stewie can start knocking a few in, so that these wages become worthwhile, but at the moment I have to say it's a shocking waste of money. :@ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BB. Posted January 5, 2006 Report Share Posted January 5, 2006 Apologies if this has been mentioned, but I haven't seen it! The Evil Post today has a quote from Holloway saying that QPR couldn't afford Stewie's wages! Are QPR in that much financial trouble, or are we really paying silly money for Stewart? Surely our club at this stage in its development shouldn't be paying wages above the budget of a club like QPR, who lets face it, are a good few years ahead of us at the moment.I really hope Stewie can start knocking a few in, so that these wages become worthwhile, but at the moment I have to say it's a shocking waste of money. :@Agree. I think he needs to shape up or ship out. He's not helping the Club he loves is he!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex1089 Posted January 5, 2006 Report Share Posted January 5, 2006 I expect were asking for money plus them paying out his contract! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dastardly and Muttley Posted January 5, 2006 Author Report Share Posted January 5, 2006 I expect were asking for money plus them paying out his contract!I think he was talking about just taking him on loan and paying his wages. Anyway, it was the wages that were mentioned as the issue, not any fee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BB. Posted January 5, 2006 Report Share Posted January 5, 2006 I would probably sell him for free if we couldn't get a fee. We need to get him of the wage bill, it's rediculous. We're paying stupid money for nothing. what a joke! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellyred Posted January 5, 2006 Report Share Posted January 5, 2006 Apologies if this has been mentioned, but I haven't seen it! The Evil Post today has a quote from Holloway saying that QPR couldn't afford Stewie's wages! Are QPR in that much financial trouble, or are we really paying silly money for Stewart? Surely our club at this stage in its development shouldn't be paying wages above the budget of a club like QPR, who lets face it, are a good few years ahead of us at the moment.I really hope Stewie can start knocking a few in, so that these wages become worthwhile, but at the moment I have to say it's a shocking waste of money. :@i can see hollowhead getting sacked first Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dastardly and Muttley Posted January 5, 2006 Author Report Share Posted January 5, 2006 i can see hollowhead getting sacked firstWasn't there a comment from the Club Owner, saying that he could no longer defend Holloway as he had done in the past when the chairman wanted rid? On the back of that, I'm surprised he's still there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nibor Posted January 5, 2006 Report Share Posted January 5, 2006 That's just Holloway stirring up rubbish. If they can afford to pay Doherty seven grand for warming the bench then they can afford to pay Stewart half that.I think Stewart will get a run in the team some time soon, after Savage has a poor game, and now that there is decent service he will score and keep his place.Nibor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest The Codfather 0312 Posted January 5, 2006 Report Share Posted January 5, 2006 Apologies if this has been mentioned, but I haven't seen it! The Evil Post today has a quote from Holloway saying that QPR couldn't afford Stewie's wages! Are QPR in that much financial trouble, or are we really paying silly money for Stewart? Surely our club at this stage in its development shouldn't be paying wages above the budget of a club like QPR, who lets face it, are a good few years ahead of us at the moment.I really hope Stewie can start knocking a few in, so that these wages become worthwhile, but at the moment I have to say it's a shocking waste of money. :@ Isn't Steve L paying Ms out of his own pocket? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nibor Posted January 5, 2006 Report Share Posted January 5, 2006 Isn't Steve L paying Ms out of his own pocket?No more than any other player. Any signing we make while we're making a loss is effectively funded by loans from the board.Nibor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest The Codfather 0312 Posted January 5, 2006 Report Share Posted January 5, 2006 No more than any other player. Any signing we make while we're making a loss is effectively funded by loans from the board.Nibor Sorry I thought I read somewhere when Ms signed that SL was paying all his wages. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nibor Posted January 5, 2006 Report Share Posted January 5, 2006 Sorry I thought I read somewhere when Ms signed that SL was paying all his wages.Richard Latham asked SL that question in an interview on World in the summer, and his answer was the one I repeated above. I think it was probably speculated about before that.Nibor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest The Codfather 0312 Posted January 5, 2006 Report Share Posted January 5, 2006 Richard Latham asked SL that question in an interview on World in the summer, and his answer was the one I repeated above. I think it was probably speculated about before that.Nibor Ok thanks that has cleared that up, Coming to think of it I may of read it in the Evil Post and everyone knows what there like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cityboy2 Posted January 5, 2006 Report Share Posted January 5, 2006 Richard Latham asked SL that question in an interview on World in the summer, and his answer was the one I repeated above. I think it was probably speculated about before that.NiborWell if MS cares so much about his beloved Bristol City and all that why doesn't he volunteer to take a wage cut, or just leave the club???????????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nibor Posted January 5, 2006 Report Share Posted January 5, 2006 Well if MS cares so much about his beloved Bristol City and all that why doesn't he volunteer to take a wage cut, or just leave the club????????????He already took a large wage cut to come here and he obviously wouldn't be here if he didn't think he could succeed. Why do you think he should leave? Our problem when we were playing badly was never the front two, it was always the defence being changed every game and a lightweight midfield. Now we've got a stable defence, a stronger midfield and two on fire wingers providing service - and Stewart can't get his place back off Bas to show what he can do with it.Nibor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristol Boy Posted January 5, 2006 Report Share Posted January 5, 2006 That's just Holloway stirring up rubbish. If they can afford to pay Doherty seven grand for warming the bench then they can afford to pay Stewart half that.£7k, no chance and it probably isn't half that.I think Stewart will get a run in the team some time soon, after Savage has a poor game, and now that there is decent service he will score and keep his place.NiborProbably done this on the thread I started about Stewy, but let's hope so, although, with at least one striker coming in and Gillespie available at short notice whilst keeping fit at Cheltenham, who knows? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twaters Posted January 5, 2006 Report Share Posted January 5, 2006 I think its Mr Hollowhead playing games and trying to stir up city fans! Mr Stewart isnt on massive wages so if Hollowhead wanted him he could probably afford him. My guess is he is just having a dig. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nibor Posted January 6, 2006 Report Share Posted January 6, 2006 £7k, no chance and it probably isn't half that.He certainly is getting that much, not sure if it's basic or basic + bonuses, but that amount I am absolutely sure of.Nibor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WTFiGO!?! Posted January 6, 2006 Report Share Posted January 6, 2006 I think its Mr Hollowhead playing games and trying to stir up city fans! Done it again, forgot to comment : rolling eyes thing inserted here.He IS the epitame of Scum. (Hollowhead)We have to admit it's not worked with ST. He wasn't a Johnson signing an the only reason we took him on board was due to his career recorn and the fact he WAS one of us. I'd never play for Scum though, even to get me started of, I can almost guarantee it, rather give up my footballing career I think. I am of course a fan not a player, so am bound to have a slightly different outlook to that of an aspiring and talented young pro footballer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cityboy2 Posted January 6, 2006 Report Share Posted January 6, 2006 Well if MS cares so much about his beloved Bristol City and all that why doesn't he volunteer to take a wage cut, or just leave the club????????????I accept he took a large wage cut from his point of view, but the actual wages being paid to him by BCFC are still a large part of the overall budget and for whatever reason he has not produced, we would all love him to produce but it just hasn't happened and as such I'm surre GJ would love to be able to bring in oother players by utilising the expenditure currently going to MS, Of course nobody expects him to just walk away but ultimately the move to us hasn't worked (yet) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigTone Posted January 6, 2006 Report Share Posted January 6, 2006 Agree. I think he needs to shape up or ship out. He's not helping the Club he loves is he!?Yes, but to help the club he has to be given a chance and he isn't Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
red as fcuk Posted January 6, 2006 Report Share Posted January 6, 2006 He already took a large wage cut to come here and he obviously wouldn't be here if he didn't think he could succeed. Why do you think he should leave? Our problem when we were playing badly was never the front two, it was always the defence being changed every game and a lightweight midfield. Now we've got a stable defence, a stronger midfield and two on fire wingers providing service - and Stewart can't get his place back off Bas to show what he can do with it.NiborI'm sorry but I don't buy into this theory that Stewart would all of a sudden start knocking them in for fun if he got into the side at the moment.Firstly I think you're underestimating Savages contribution to the team, and secondly, good strikers make their own goals, a la Brooker and Lita last season.Don't get me wrong I think Stewart is a decent enough player, I just think we could get a similar contribution from someone on half his wages. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nibor Posted January 6, 2006 Report Share Posted January 6, 2006 I'm sorry but I don't buy into this theory that Stewart would all of a sudden start knocking them in for fun if he got into the side at the moment.Firstly I think you're underestimating Savages contribution to the team, and secondly, good strikers make their own goals, a la Brooker and Lita last season.Don't get me wrong I think Stewart is a decent enough player, I just think we could get a similar contribution from someone on half his wages.Well, you can't make your own goals if you don't have the ball, and I think now that we have a midfield capable of getting him the ball we will see some - we won't know unless GJ tries it though. RE the wages, I never claimed he was great value for money and I'd tend to agree that we could spend it more wisely - however we don't have that option because we've already signed Stewart so we may as well make the best of it.I will just disagree with you about Savage, he has lots of energy but I don't think his ineffectual running about actually makes a big difference. All this "he creates space for Brooker" talk is countered by the fact that he isn't a goal threat in my view.Nibor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wed wobin Posted January 6, 2006 Report Share Posted January 6, 2006 He certainly is getting that much, not sure if it's basic or basic + bonuses, but that amount I am absolutely sure of.NiborPosted this before but Holloway has said that he could not take Stewart as we insisted on QPR paying the wages in full & as that would be almost double his highest earner at the club he didn't want to upset the apple cart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
red as fcuk Posted January 6, 2006 Report Share Posted January 6, 2006 I will just disagree with you about Savage, he has lots of energy but I don't think his ineffectual running about actually makes a big difference. All this "he creates space for Brooker" talk is countered by the fact that he isn't a goal threat in my view.NiborSo as to not spark another Savage debate I'll agree to disagree, I think he is having a positive effect on the team and the goals will surely come.........eventually Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nibor Posted January 6, 2006 Report Share Posted January 6, 2006 Posted this before but Holloway has said that he could not take Stewart as we insisted on QPR paying the wages in full & as that would be almost double his highest earner at the club he didn't want to upset the apple cart.No he didn't say anything at all about Stewart's wages being double his highest earner, because that would be completely untrue and obviously so. We don't pay our players anything like what they do.Here's the quote:Holloway revealed: "I did make an enquiry about Stewart a couple of months ago, but we couldn't afford the money."There was no way we could afford to bring him here pemanently, but I did consider a loan."That will not be possible unless the money situation changes."As far as I know, that is the same, so it doesn't look like a deal will be possible."What he's referring to is the fact that when he enquired a few months back, we wanted a fee, or wanted QPR to pay off whatever Stewart was entitled to since he hadn't asked for a move. And anyway, I wouldn't put it past Holloway to be deliberately trying to wind up city fans.Nibor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wed wobin Posted January 6, 2006 Report Share Posted January 6, 2006 No he didn't say anything at all about Stewart's wages being double his highest earner, because that would be completely untrue and obviously so. We don't pay our players anything like what they do.Here's the quote:What he's referring to is the fact that when he enquired a few months back, we wanted a fee, or wanted QPR to pay off whatever Stewart was entitled to since he hadn't asked for a move. And anyway, I wouldn't put it past Holloway to be deliberately trying to wind up city fans.NiborI didn't get this from any Newspaper but one of his close mates & former playing colleague, who I see for a few bevy's each Sunday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nibor Posted January 6, 2006 Report Share Posted January 6, 2006 I didn't get this from any Newspaper but one of his close mates & former playing colleague, who I see for a few bevy's each Sunday.Well if Stewart is on double what the highest earner at QPR gets I will personally buy you both an entire Sunday's worth of Bevvies.It isn't true. In fact, I doubt he was on that much even at Sunderland. Someone is telling you porkies.Nibor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wed wobin Posted January 6, 2006 Report Share Posted January 6, 2006 Well if Stewart is on double what the highest earner at QPR gets I will personally buy you both an entire Sunday's worth of Bevvies.It isn't true. In fact, I doubt he was on that much even at Sunderland. Someone is telling you porkies.NiborKeep believing the Journo's, they Know best! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nibor Posted January 6, 2006 Report Share Posted January 6, 2006 Keep believing the Journo's, they Know best!Nope, I wouldnt believe a journalist if they told me the earth was round.I know that Doherty is on seven grand a week and is not the highest earner there. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to work out that Stewart is not on 14.Keep believing sagheads.Nibor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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