jimtastic Posted January 11, 2006 Report Share Posted January 11, 2006 http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2093-1938072,00.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stortfordred Posted January 11, 2006 Report Share Posted January 11, 2006 http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2093-1938072,00.htmlGood article-Interesting to read that he doesn't know whether he can 'finish' or not- I remember Lee Miller warming up for us on many occasions. He couldn't even beat Phillips then! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samo Posted January 11, 2006 Report Share Posted January 11, 2006 "Down in Bristol, I was training knowing that I was never going to play and that was frustrating but going down there when I was still a teenager gave me independence and made me stronger physically, too." this was an interesting comment Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TA8 RED Posted January 11, 2006 Report Share Posted January 11, 2006 Let's see if we can get him back ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristol Boy Posted January 11, 2006 Report Share Posted January 11, 2006 The reason's dead simple and entirely predictable.At Hearts he was in a very good team as this season has proved.They're still winning with Graham Rix, who's screwed up everywhere he's managed or coached, in charge.Service at Hearts was exceptional as opposed to Dundee.........and here for that matter.That's the difference and we did well to recoup our money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Skin Posted January 11, 2006 Report Share Posted January 11, 2006 Interesting article. Thanks for posting it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Posted January 12, 2006 Report Share Posted January 12, 2006 The reason's dead simple and entirely predictable.At Hearts he was in a very good team as this season has proved.They're still winning with Graham Rix, who's screwed up everywhere he's managed or coached, in charge.Service at Hearts was exceptional as opposed to Dundee.........and here for that matter.That's the difference and we did well to recoup our money. Of course, of course thats the reason WHY he hasnt scored in 14 matches, and of course thats why he couldnt score here.Its not that the striker cant score, no no no, its the entire teams fault Be sensible mate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maidenheadred Posted January 12, 2006 Report Share Posted January 12, 2006 http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2093-1938072,00.htmlnever once saw him look like anything more than a mid-table division 1 standard targetman - more skillful most, but too lightweight, and not brave enough. Good bit of busy getting rid - although we still probably made a loss. Think he's being found now... but just imagine what Brooker could do in Scotland! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Tactical Genius Posted January 12, 2006 Report Share Posted January 12, 2006 The reason's dead simple and entirely predictable.Quite, he went to Hearts looking for a full time deal. As soon as he got one he's gone back to his half-hearted self. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Harry Dolman Posted January 12, 2006 Report Share Posted January 12, 2006 Quite, he went to Hearts looking for a full time deal. As soon as he got one he's gone back to his half-hearted self.At one stage I felt a bit sorry for Miller but on reflection.............After a bad spell at City he goes on loan to Hearts & does well. You'd think he'd chew their arm off for a deal, but then after Hearts agree a fee with City he ditches them over personal terms & goes to Dundee Utd.What goes around etc........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taxidriver999 Posted January 12, 2006 Report Share Posted January 12, 2006 Lee Miller chose Dundee Utd because of Chisholm who was at Lee's previous club in Scotland.The reason he didn't stay at Hearts was because they were managerless & he couldn't take a chance that the new manager appointed would play him.It seems that he made the wrong decision.In the right squad he can be a very good player as he has proved already, may be it is time for him to move on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Tactical Genius Posted January 12, 2006 Report Share Posted January 12, 2006 That's an absolute cop out considering the goals he had scored for them, and if there's one thing about professional football players it is that they all have confidence in their own ability.Bottom line is he followed the money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedM Posted January 12, 2006 Report Share Posted January 12, 2006 Looks like he may be playing under a new manager anyway. Craig Brewster is hotly tipped to be the next manager of Dundee Utd, but they can't reach agreement with Inverness for him at the moment. I was surprised Lee didn't go to Hearts and couldn't see any footballing attraction for him at dundee Utd, except for his old manager who is now about to get the push? A year is a long time in football! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristol Boy Posted January 12, 2006 Report Share Posted January 12, 2006 Of course, of course thats the reason WHY he hasnt scored in 14 matches, and of course thats why he couldnt score here.That's right.Spotted that, did you.Well doneIts not that the striker cant score, no no no, its the entire teams fault I didn't say that and was one of Millers harshest critics for a long time. However, as you're clearly a tad thick, I'll explainBe sensible mate.Only if you doIt's a combination of lots of things:FitnessConfidenceSkillEffortWorkrateEven LuckAND YES, the team you play in has a lot to do with it, along with the standard of the opposition.If that isn't the case how do you explain the fact that Miller couldn't score for toffee here, yet left for Hearts who play in a higher League and scored for fun?Are Celtic & Rangers worse than Swindon & Chesterfield I was surprised Lee didn't go to Hearts and couldn't see any footballing attraction for him at dundee Utd, except for his old manager who is now about to get the push? Surprisingly, Money! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ashtonyate Posted January 12, 2006 Report Share Posted January 12, 2006 I don't know what the surprise is with Miller he was crap most of the time he played for us, and never worth the Money we payed for him another wonderfull buy this club made. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedM Posted January 12, 2006 Report Share Posted January 12, 2006 I don't know what the surprise is with Miller he was crap most of the time he played for us, and never worth the Money we payed for him another wonderfull buy this club made.I'm a bit confused. You clearly don't like the Academy system, ie bringing local talented youngsters up through the ranks. But when the club goes out and buys raw ,promising, young talent you critisise that? Or is it just the player you have issue with?Agreed it didn't work out and I'm still not sure how much of that was down to our failure to coach or the player. We did however recover what we paid for him, that hasn't always been the case whether the player is young or old recently. I believe we have other players at the moment who are costing us more financially and offering us no better return than Miller did, can't see us getting a fee for them either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ashtonyate Posted January 13, 2006 Report Share Posted January 13, 2006 I'm a bit confused. You clearly don't like the Academy system, ie bringing local talented youngsters up through the ranks. But when the club goes out and buys raw ,promising, young talent you critisise that? Or is it just the player you have issue with?Agreed it didn't work out and I'm still not sure how much of that was down to our failure to coach or the player. We did however recover what we paid for him, that hasn't always been the case whether the player is young or old recently. I believe we have other players at the moment who are costing us more financially and offering us no better return than Miller did, can't see us getting a fee for them either.Not as confused as me how we could spend 325k on a player who had a good season playing in a league thats not much better than our conferance, it shows that you need a good scouting system in place to watch players over a perod of time. We did not get back all the money we had payed out I think we got back 220k.As with the academy I don't think a club in the third division should have one and i still say had we not had one we would been promoted 3 year ago but i said this load of time and in the past, but if you sell players like Golbourn for a reported fee of 200k i still makes me wonder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ballwinningcentrehalf Posted January 13, 2006 Report Share Posted January 13, 2006 Brewster would probably play himself ahead of Miller anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CiderHider Posted January 13, 2006 Report Share Posted January 13, 2006 Bring him back! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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