mozo Posted June 5, 2006 Report Share Posted June 5, 2006 "Ye are the salt of the Earth..."Documentary on 4 about Patrick Henry college in the US, a breeding ground for highly politicised Christian fundamentalist mini-Dubya's.They all sign a statement of behaviour to state that they won't booze, smoke or be lusty (man I'd fail so badly). They get taught about the difference between good science and bad science .There was a loverly moment when a student got a nod of approval from his teacher for pointing out that Christianity must be the best religion to follow because it was "one of the oldest religions"!! They can't sing and look like a bunch of social outcasts, bless 'em. They're all very happy-clappy though.Watching it I just wanted to go over there and take them to a drug-feulled night out at a stripclub. Hey, I'm a sinner... Anyone see it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redhyde Posted June 5, 2006 Report Share Posted June 5, 2006 This is an incredibly insightful and worrying scary at the same time.Great program.But what do C4 follow it up with? Another bunch of social misfits, zealots and outcasts! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozo Posted June 5, 2006 Author Report Share Posted June 5, 2006 This is an incredibly insightful and worrying scary at the same time.Great program.But what do C4 follow it up with? Another bunch of social misfits, zealots and outcasts!innit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southy354 Posted June 5, 2006 Report Share Posted June 5, 2006 This is an incredibly insightful and worrying scary at the same time.Great program.But what do C4 follow it up with? Another bunch of social misfits, zealots and outcasts!They are still doing Big Brother Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KevinC Posted June 5, 2006 Report Share Posted June 5, 2006 "Ye are the salt of the Earth..."They all sign a statement of behaviour to state that they won't booze, smoke or be lusty (man I'd fail so badly). Anyone see it?No I missed it. was at a meeting to sort out a problem in the parish.... perhaps I should send my problem people to God's own country and be with the other like minded souls.As for my vices, Mozo, I neither smoke nor drink. Best leave it at that, eh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozo Posted June 5, 2006 Author Report Share Posted June 5, 2006 No I missed it. was at a meeting to sort out a problem in the parish.... perhaps I should send my problem people to God's own country and be with the other like minded souls.As for my vices, Mozo, I neither smoke nor drink. Best leave it at that, eh?Aah but like Adam and Eve couldn't resist the fruits of the garden of Eden, you yourself couldn't refuse a peek at my evil thread, this apple of forum distaste... Nowt wrong with limiting your vices, that's just common sense. I just thought it was funny cos these kids all had to sign a declaration in assembly to promise not to do it.I also found the political basis of their religious education a little strange. A major part of it was teaching them the rhetorical skills to argue against things that they believe in, whilst the were being fed some very flimsy ideals.The USA is mental though innit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KevinC Posted June 6, 2006 Report Share Posted June 6, 2006 Aah but like Adam and Eve couldn't resist the fruits of the garden of Eden, you yourself couldn't refuse a peek at my evil thread, this apple of forum distaste... Nowt wrong with limiting your vices, that's just common sense. I just thought it was funny cos these kids all had to sign a declaration in assembly to promise not to do it.I also found the political basis of their religious education a little strange. A major part of it was teaching them the rhetorical skills to argue against things that they believe in, whilst the were being fed some very flimsy ideals.The USA is mental though innit.I agree, the USA is seiously mental. The last presidential campaign was fought on issues of abortion as well as economy / taxation. Can you see that happening here? Alistair Campbell once famously said "We don't do God", in the context of using or misusing the Almighty in the political arena, and I think that is rather sensible in many ways.My faith does inform my ideas of justice and politics in the wider arena, but as there are people of faith in many political parties, who am I to claim that God is biased towards one political group or another?I am interested in the idea of making kids sign up to limit their vices. The trouble is that when people name the prohibitions there are are always going to be those who'd give them a try out of curiosity!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bad_shrek Posted June 6, 2006 Report Share Posted June 6, 2006 What scares me most, is that the college was teaching them to become politicians basically, and far far far right wing poilticians at that.In 15 years time, America will be on a christian version of jihad, and were going to be stuck right in the middle! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigTone Posted June 6, 2006 Report Share Posted June 6, 2006 In 15 years time, America will be on a christian version of jihad, I think they already are and were going to be stuck right in the middle!We already areI was in the States a few years ago on business and was at this dinner. Sat next to me was this idiot who started telling me that America and Americans had a God given duty to look after the rest of the World. Scarey stuff, but more so that they actually believe it ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bad_shrek Posted June 6, 2006 Report Share Posted June 6, 2006 I think they already areWe already areI was in the States a few years ago on business and was at this dinner. Sat next to me was this idiot who started telling me that America and Americans had a God given duty to look after the rest of the World. Scarey stuff, but more so that they actually believe it !i wouldnt say we are yet, at the moment its just iraq and oil. but in the future, its going to be any muslim state.to be fair, i think ol tone has done ok in what is a very difficult job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bucksred Posted June 6, 2006 Report Share Posted June 6, 2006 Guess thats what happens in a country where y'all can git married at 16, and they allow possesion of machine guns, rocket propelled grenades, and mortars, as a right!! Still better than a bearded fanatic hellbent on taking us to his "Paradise" of 12th century delights Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bad_shrek Posted June 6, 2006 Report Share Posted June 6, 2006 don't mention cartoons bucks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KevinC Posted June 6, 2006 Report Share Posted June 6, 2006 Still better than a bearded fanatic hellbent on taking us to his "Paradise" of 12th century delights No need to criticise david Blunkett like that, he does his best in very difficult circumstances Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barry_manc Posted June 6, 2006 Report Share Posted June 6, 2006 i wouldnt say we are yet, at the moment its just iraq and oil. but in the future, its going to be any muslim state.to be fair, i think ol tone has done ok in what is a very difficult job.Nah once the oil looses it's value in money they will move to the next most profiatable, and easily manipulated product - h 2 o. The muslim argument is just another scapegoat - I doubt that the people pulling the strings behind Bush give a funk about religion, to them it is the mighty mighty dollar and nowt else. Consolidation and control of economy. No more no less. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dogbert Posted June 6, 2006 Report Share Posted June 6, 2006 There was a loverly moment when a student got a nod of approval from his teacher for pointing out that Christianity must be the best religion to follow because it was "one of the oldest religions"!! I actually did laugh out loud at that point Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barry_manc Posted June 6, 2006 Report Share Posted June 6, 2006 I actually did laugh out loud at that pointWould it not make Judaism an even 'better' religion as that's what Christianity stemmed from? Clever these yanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dorset_Cider Posted June 6, 2006 Report Share Posted June 6, 2006 This is an incredibly insightful and worrying scary at the same time.Great program.But what do C4 follow it up with? Another bunch of social misfits, zealots and outcasts!Hey..... Big Brother has been on for 'Season' after season (that's what they call series now don't they)The current run of social misfits, zealots and outcasts is all you are going to get! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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