Flaxbourton Red Posted July 6, 2006 Report Share Posted July 6, 2006 Just wanted to clarify some points about manchester united and their fans.Many of the sky tv supporters branch, whom you can find in your nearest pub, be it nailsea or south wales, do not represent the real manchester united. Currently real MUFC fans, found in the north west (not nailsea or south wales), are campaigning to get rid of glazer by attacking the main club sponsors such as nike and budwiser.This website shows some of their actionsfight for unitedI'm no manchester united fan, but admire the way the real fans have not accepted their club being treated as a means of making money for some american sports mogal.As for the sky tv supporters branch, they are worse than the gas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nibor Posted July 6, 2006 Report Share Posted July 6, 2006 What exactly has Glazer done so far that the ManUre fans want rid of him for? I mean other than hand Ferguson a big wad of cash in the transfer window. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Collis Posted July 6, 2006 Report Share Posted July 6, 2006 What exactly has Glazer done so far that the ManUre fans want rid of him for? I mean other than hand Ferguson a big wad of cash in the transfer window.They have an American chairman?Nuff said! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Nibor Posted July 6, 2006 Report Share Posted July 6, 2006 That's all well and good except that ticket prices haven't increased and spending on players hasn't gone down.Man Utd fans have been milked for cash for the last 30 years by the merchandising machine without complaining, strange that they should start now eh?They were uniformly behind the move to list the company and loved every minute of the success that the extra cash bought them.I have precisely ZERO sympathy for any of their fans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barry_manc Posted July 6, 2006 Report Share Posted July 6, 2006 I have precisely ZERO sympathy for any of their fans.Think that's a bit harsh, I've got Manure mates who are die hard fans, tore up their season tickets cos of the Glaziers, go to all the Fans Utd games (in fact one was offered a spot in the team but turned it down), burnt their shirts etc. They're true fans, they don't like the Glaziers so are trying to do something about it. They know that something's not right with Fergie too and that he's got a stick that's sturring, but they also know that there's not much to be done that would make a difference. They're selling less season tickets locally, but I'm sure they'll still sell out... I do feel for them, it's like BCFC being bought out by a Murdoch or a Branson, I'd struggle to put money in their pockets too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flaxbourton Red Posted July 6, 2006 Author Report Share Posted July 6, 2006 We have all been milked for cash via merchandising, remember when a city kit changed every 2 years?the fact that the club has been saddled with a $800 million debt for no other reason than to allow Glazer control of the club is pretty worrying for the real fans (those that support the club as much as we support ours). Ive got no sympathy for manchester united, they don't need it. I do however admire fans that put their club before sky TV, commercialisation and income generation for foreign sports mogals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nibor Posted July 6, 2006 Report Share Posted July 6, 2006 the fact that the club has been saddled with a $800 million debt for no other reason than to allow Glazer control of the club is pretty worrying for the real fans (those that support the club as much as we support ours). It's not worrying, it's a myth.Glazer owes the money, not the club. If he can't repay it he'll have to sell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flaxbourton Red Posted July 6, 2006 Author Report Share Posted July 6, 2006 the best fight for united sticker ive seen so far is the one that says"Billy no-mates drinks budwiser" stuck on a sainsbury's window. by attacking the club's main sponsors they are attacking Glazer's income generation.ticket prices go uppaying back the debt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maltshoveller Posted July 6, 2006 Report Share Posted July 6, 2006 Think that's a bit harsh, I've got Manure mates who are die hard fans, tore up their season tickets cos of the Glaziers, go to all the Fans Utd games (in fact one was offered a spot in the team but turned it down), burnt their shirts etc. They're true fans, they don't like the Glaziers so are trying to do something about it. NO!! they are not true fansThey should be supporting the TEAMit shouldnt matter who owns the clubIf Dunford came and took over citythere would be alots of fans including me who would be pissed off99% of these fans would still come and watch cityWHYbecause they want to support the TEAM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Skin Posted July 13, 2006 Report Share Posted July 13, 2006 Glazer owes the money, not the club. If he can't repay it he'll have to sell.Not true. When Glazer took complete complete of United (i.e. owned something like 96% of shares) his debts becames the club's debt. He irresponsibly borrowed money at exorbitant rates to buy United. If he fails to service the debt the club go out of business. This was possible because the club was a PLC. Undoubtedly the money they got from floatation and share issues helped the club grow and develop but at what price? The ordinary fans had no say in the decision to become a PLC and now they have lost control of their club and risk losing their club completely if debts aren't serviced. What a choice, pay inflated season tickets prices or starve the club of investment and contribute to it's demise? City were threatened with extinction once and I for one have every sympathy for true United fans and the upmost contempt for Glazer and any like him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James M Posted July 13, 2006 Report Share Posted July 13, 2006 That's all well and good except that ticket prices haven't increased and spending on players hasn't gone down.Man Utd fans have been milked for cash for the last 30 years by the merchandising machine without complaining, strange that they should start now eh?They were uniformly behind the move to list the company and loved every minute of the success that the extra cash bought them.I have precisely ZERO sympathy for any of their fans.Ahaha, none of the United fans I know wanted to go public. And that's more then just a handful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Oddball Posted July 14, 2006 Report Share Posted July 14, 2006 I would just like to add, that the LUHG campaign is not just about Glazer and his greedy family, it is just as much about the corporate element that has now, overtaken football in our country.But first, as United fans who care about the future of OUR CLUB, we must first deal with the Glazer family. It all came about last year when many united fans had fought the battle against the takeover, one in which we lost, but realised the 'war' had only just begun for us.Over at "fight for united" or "FFUC" for short, we realise our 'war' will not be won overnight, there will be many battles to be fought with the sponsors, as well as the club and some of the current directors. I can understand and relate to any football supporter who says "support your team" we would dearly love to go back into Old Trafford and shout for the lads, win-lose or draw, but for the sake of the kids around the 'red' parts of Manchester and neighbouring towns who will never be able to afford to watch United, we are battling on their behalf and for our own sake. As for the Glazers putting up transfer cash, well we all know not to believe the backpages of the media.Ticket prices have been raised and in some cases as much as 22%. Another fact is that, the Glazers are struggling to sell out all the newly released season tickets. To be honest with any of you reading this, we still go to watch United, but only at away games and europe, we simply refuse to pay the debt the Glazer has burdened OUR CLUB with. Our objectives at FFUC is to report on the action undertaken by those involved with the LUHG (love united hate glazer) group, who are out to devalue MUFC and to piss people off from investing/attending Mufc. This way it makes it difficult for Glazer to keep up his repayments on the debt. We firmly believe that after one season, we have the Glazers seriously concerned.Thank you for reading my post and allowing me to post on your forum.Oddballwww.fight-for-united.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flaxbourton Red Posted July 15, 2006 Author Report Share Posted July 15, 2006 Keep up the good work oddball and good luck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bcfc seattle Posted July 16, 2006 Report Share Posted July 16, 2006 The funny thing is they are asking people to do what I do anyway, avoid doing business with companies that support ManU. Over here in the States, AIG had a huge ad campaign on the World Cup games with all their ads finishing "Now the lead sponcer of Manchester United" I guess they fail to realise that while it may gain them business it will also lose them business.I guess the only way to win is to do what Carling did years back and sponcer everyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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