Collis Posted February 27, 2007 Report Share Posted February 27, 2007 I am only going to outline the facts.At the final whistle around 50 Rovers fans charged across the pitch to try and get at City fans. The police took at least 2-3 minutes to respond properly.One Rovers fan in particular was aloud to stand about 5 metres away from the away terracing for at least half a minute while the police did nothing but spray tear gas and swing their batons at City fans.My sources tell me that the game cost around £80,000 to police. If i was SL I would want to know why it took so long to control those Rovers thugs and why the police concentrated on controlling the City fans when all most of them wanted to do was leave the ground and didn't want any trouble. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
icamanicity Posted February 28, 2007 Report Share Posted February 28, 2007 What the family club have thugs, be careful what you say, you don't want evil post to find out, we don't want to turn it into the macclesfield mob affair that makes the front page or was it a little artical about the city... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weav Posted February 28, 2007 Report Share Posted February 28, 2007 Made me laugh they all ran on the pitch but when they got outside where were they? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rule The Waves Posted February 28, 2007 Report Share Posted February 28, 2007 Does 1995 represent the year you were born as well?A very childish immature response. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riaz Posted February 28, 2007 Report Share Posted February 28, 2007 Totally agree with collis, policing was a disgrace - as alwaysStaring at us city fans while rovers fans run on the pitch......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bcfcred Posted February 28, 2007 Report Share Posted February 28, 2007 Absolute Discrace the policing last night was!Just terrible, spraying tear gas or whatever its called at every fan in sight, even if they wanted to just leave the ground innocently!Even little kids were being sprayed, absolute discrace. Also just kept wacking random City fans and laughing to eachother, like enjoying what they were doing. They all deserved the sack last night (police)!I'm going to be writing to the police and EP so I urge others to do so aswell! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest mesa boogie Posted February 28, 2007 Report Share Posted February 28, 2007 If that is true then it's a disgrace. As for our 'supporters' running on the pitch to 'have a go' they were complete tits. After the brilliant Policing of the first leg I was hoping they'd sorted their act out but I was wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Maesknoll Red Posted February 28, 2007 Admin Report Share Posted February 28, 2007 It was the first time I'd ever been genuinely concerned for mine and others safety at a game, kids were passed accross and back into the stand from the crush at the front. If there was an announcement to say we were being held back, then I and no one else I've spoken to didn't hear it, the police ignored genuine and frantic requests to let people move onto the pitch to relieve the crush and when we finally got towards the rear of the stand, the emergency exits were chained and padlocked - this must be in breach of the safety certificate.Surely the sensible option was to let us out, the majority just wanted to get away from the place, whilst most sags would have been happy to stay and celebrate for 10 minutes.This was the worst policing and stewarding I have witnessed, whilst it was a long way from the horrors of hillsboro, last night was a reminder how situations involving crowds can quickly turn into a dangerous situation when the control of the crowd is totally ineffective. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
midland red Posted February 28, 2007 Report Share Posted February 28, 2007 witnessed a city fan being hit on the head by one of those spring coshes, it split his head open but could have been much worse, i spoke to the officer who was responsible telling him a head shot was dangerous, he laughed and said "well he should have behaved then".Full marks A & S.yours midland red. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weav Posted February 28, 2007 Report Share Posted February 28, 2007 I though the police and stewarding were shocking, that fat bloke in front of the terrace we more interested in having a laugh than protecting us. I heard tear gas was used is this true!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weav Posted February 28, 2007 Report Share Posted February 28, 2007 Does 1995 represent the year you were born as well?A very childish immature response.I didnt mean it like that, just meant that they run around like drunken, chavved up lunactics and then when they are confronted either by the police or other city idiots they arnt so mouthy. At no point was i incouraging violence Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bcfcred Posted February 28, 2007 Report Share Posted February 28, 2007 Yes tear gas was used and pretty much abused. This one #### of a bloke just kept spraying it over and over again! Even on little kids and woman, total mockery and a discrace! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Casual Connoisseur Posted February 28, 2007 Report Share Posted February 28, 2007 Yes tear gas was used and pretty much abused. This one #### of a bloke just kept spraying it over and over again! Even on little kids and woman, total mockery and a discrace!Pepper Spray, not tear gas. still completely barbaric and not necessary.My question is will rovers and the FA be banning supporters that entered the field of play, I am sure if it was us there would be uproar and a call to ban those supporters, same old double standards at a guess!Identify them and ban them, that is the FA guideline, will it be actioned, will it hell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedTop Posted February 28, 2007 Report Share Posted February 28, 2007 It was the first time I'd ever been genuinely concerned for mine and others safety at a game, kids were passed accross and back into the stand from the crush at the front. If there was an announcement to say we were being held back, then I and no one else I've spoken to didn't hear it, the police ignored genuine and frantic requests to let people move onto the pitch to relieve the crush and when we finally got towards the rear of the stand, the emergency exits were chained and padlocked - this must be in breach of the safety certificate.Surely the sensible option was to let us out, the majority just wanted to get away from the place, whilst most sags would have been happy to stay and celebrate for 10 minutes.This was the worst policing and stewarding I have witnessed, whilst it was a long way from the horrors of hillsboro, last night was a reminder how situations involving crowds can quickly turn into a dangerous situation when the control of the crowd is totally ineffective.I have to second MR on this. It gives me no pleasure to knock the police but I think they have to stand up to scrutiny, and last night their actions fell far short of what I would expect. I don't think last night was a credit to the fans of either club or the police, from what I saw. I recognised a number of older City hoolies who only turn out when they are looking for trouble, so I feared the worst.However, anyone with an iota of knowledge about football would have known that at the final whistle, Rovers fans would want to stay and celebrate while City fans would just want to go rather than be kept in witnessing their rivals enjoying their moment. The most sensible thing would have been to let the City fans out and get them away while the Rovers fans were celebrating. Instead, we were faced with a line of police keeping us in while Rovers celeberated.The results were:1. Lots of normally sensible fans saw mist at not being allowed out and having to watch the Gas celebrate, merely adding to the build-up of tension in the away end and swelling the numbers looking for trouble.2. The City knuckledraggers (and innocent City fans) were actually kept CLOSER to Gas idiots on the pitch looking for a fight. The ordinary supporters with wives, kids, etc, who had come to watch a game of football were trapped in among the thugs with no way to escape. 3. Most obviously, it meant that City fans were actually let out of the stadium into surrounding streets at the same time as the Gas fans - explain how that makes sense!4. As a result, having let us out we were then faced with a line of police as they tried desperately to keep the supporters apart. I was at the front with Percy Parrot, heading for our car, and basically there was a surge from the back of City fans wanting to get out after being kept in, unaware that at the front we were met by a line of riot police with shields and horses. Consequently, we were being pushed onto the police from behind, and the cops responded by battering us back. They ignored the pleas that people were getting squashed etc. I was genuinely afraid for my safety - not at the hands of Gasheads but at the hands of police.5. Having finally (45 minutes perhaps?) been allowed past the line in the car park we walked out into the street, where we were again boxed in by police with riot shields who started shunting us from street to street, not allowing us to get anywhere near our car. To be fair some of them were talking to us and admitting they thought it had been crazy that we weren't just allowed out at the very start while the Rovers fans were celebrating, and were working hard to try to bring down the tension. But we probably would still be there being forced from street to street except for the fact that we managed to sneak past the police line so that we could walk to the car.Now don't get me wrong. I understand the police were faced with a difficult situation caused by the knowledge that unfortunately we have subhuman scum among our number who were out looking for a fight with Gas knuckledraggers. That is indefensible and I utterly deplore and detest any hooligan who drags the name of the club I love through the mud. Knowing what we know about hoolie scumbags who attach themselves to both clubs and who turned up last night, I believe some trouble was always inevitable. But in my opinion, the way the game was policed at the end actually added to the trouble and created a needless situation that the police then had to spend aged trying to cope with. There would always have been some City idiots looking for a fight. But letting us out at the start, when it would have been far safer to do so, would have meant most City fans could have got away. Those left hanging behind waiting for the Gas to come out would have been the troublemakers and the police could have concentrated on them and not endangered the safety and wellbeing of other fans. The result of the way the police handled the crowd was to actually to enrage some of the borderline idiots who might otherwise have walked away, inflaming the situation, and more importantly to ensure thousands of innocent fans got caught up in trouble not of their making and actually putting them in danger.Like I said, this is in no way an attempt to condone or make excuses for any violence at all. Those who try deserve all the force of the police brought down upon them, and if it were not for these morons then we would not have to put up with policing like we did last night. But I do believe the police need to learn lessons from this game because in my opinion innocent fans could have been seriously hurt, or worse, as a result of their crowd control methods, which lacked common sense and were arguably downright dangerous. I feel disappointed that I felt in danger, not as a result of hooligans, but as a result of the policing. My experience was such that I really found myself wondering if it was worth going to a game like that again, which given the passion I feel for the club, is a demonstration of just how bad I felt my treatment was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhatWill Posted February 28, 2007 Report Share Posted February 28, 2007 I thought the police were very unprofessional last night. Never realised they had the right to swear and abuse members of the public as they were last night. At the front when the old boy copper decided to get his pepper spray out we were repeatedly told to 'f@?# off' by a police woman and another policeman in particular.At half time I was confronted by a copper who clearly had his blood up who told me to 'watch my f@#?ing signs and my f@?#ing language' despite the fact I was standing nowhere near him on the terrace and certainly not within earshot. I asked him if it was appropriate to use such language to which he backed down and cut out the swearing.It was dodgy all night, I thought the police acted like thugs towards us and really relished winding City fans up. The way these coppers were speaking to us was plain and simply INCITEFUL. They are supposed to be there to calm things down, not cause troubleSomething was very fishy last night. The manner of stewards and police towards us was poor. Even the godamn catering staff and ballboys were winding us up! #######s the lot of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wesco Posted February 28, 2007 Report Share Posted February 28, 2007 I don't think we can totally defend the city fans there were a few who made it on too the pitch and also there were some kicking the boards at the front but must agree the attitude of the police was very poor and needs looking into. The police seem very keen to it to start off and didn't appreciate their attitude with the majority of them having batons out and faces covered up before any sign of trouble. The time it took for them to put a cordon across the middle of the pitch and to bring the dogs out was a joke and the gas paid how much for it? I am really getting fed up with the police at football they are not doing their job properly whilst costing clubs thousands. Havant and waterlooville lost money on their FA Cup game because of the policing costs which goes to show how much of a joke it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Posted February 28, 2007 Report Share Posted February 28, 2007 wasn't there myself, but it sounds like the police we the main hooligans there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riaz Posted February 28, 2007 Report Share Posted February 28, 2007 When to the police EVER get it right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristolface Posted February 28, 2007 Report Share Posted February 28, 2007 I am only going to outline the facts.At the final whistle around 50 Rovers fans charged across the pitch to try and get at City fans. The police took at least 2-3 minutes to respond properly.One Rovers fan in particular was aloud to stand about 5 metres away from the away terracing for at least half a minute while the police did nothing but spray tear gas and swing their batons at City fans.My sources tell me that the game cost around £80,000 to police. If i was SL I would want to know why it took so long to control those Rovers thugs and why the police concentrated on controlling the City fans when all most of them wanted to do was leave the ground and didn't want any trouble.Yea to right mate, I watched the whole game down at the front of the terrace, and had my hands in the air while the police were treating us so poorly one girl was being crushed behind us and they would not listen, so she could be taken over the barrier for her saftey. One female steward laughed as we were going mad at the Police as Rovers (fans's) stood yards behind them. I did manage to get a Press Photographer to come over and take some pics of the girl lying on the side of the pitch crying as hoped, this might prove how badly we were treated. But you can bet the Press treat Rovers fan's on pitch as joyfull fans spill onto pitch and City fan's causing a riot because they lost, Sod the finial let them have it I'd much rather go up, but the way we were treated was not short of brutal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STA-BS14 Posted February 28, 2007 Report Share Posted February 28, 2007 There was one copper in front of the away terrace who was more interested in smashing his baton against the metal rails by us, instead of focusing his attention to the herd of gas scum "illegally" tresspassing on the pitch, what a joke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bcfcred Posted February 28, 2007 Report Share Posted February 28, 2007 I went with my mate and we were in the away terrace. right in the middle of the trouble with the police last night. My mate was inches away from getting his head smashed by the police and their batons, and, when they were spraying their gas, we were both very lucky not to get it in our eyes, however, my mate got alot in the back of his throat, which, with someone just getting over a throat virus, is not good! And now he literally not talk today! We have got the police on video 3 times as evidence and my mate is planning to write to the EP, and possibly Steve Lansdown. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Casual Connoisseur Posted February 28, 2007 Report Share Posted February 28, 2007 I wouldn't bother with the evning post, take your story to a red top rag and to an independant solicitor, just don't let it rest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristolface Posted February 28, 2007 Report Share Posted February 28, 2007 I am only going to outline the facts.At the final whistle around 50 Rovers fans charged across the pitch to try and get at City fans. The police took at least 2-3 minutes to respond properly.One Rovers fan in particular was aloud to stand about 5 metres away from the away terracing for at least half a minute while the police did nothing but spray tear gas and swing their batons at City fans.My sources tell me that the game cost around £80,000 to police. If i was SL I would want to know why it took so long to control those Rovers thugs and why the police concentrated on controlling the City fans when all most of them wanted to do was leave the ground and didn't want any trouble.Just been on the phone to Rovers about the way the game was handeld last night and was told only a handfull of Rovers fans came onto pitch and within minutes were escorted away from us, he went onto say that Rovers fan's got no where near us, I did ask for a pair of the rose tinted glasses that he must have been looking through last night, I'm am going to be e-mailing him pic's of the stewards that did nothing to help the girl that was being crushed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bcfcred Posted February 28, 2007 Report Share Posted February 28, 2007 I wouldn't bother with the evning post, take your story to a red top rag and to an independant solicitor, just don't let it rest.what's a red top rag? and why an independant solicitor? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedTop Posted February 28, 2007 Report Share Posted February 28, 2007 There was one copper in front of the away terrace who was more interested in smashing his baton against the metal rails by us, instead of focusing his attention to the herd of gas scum "illegally" tresspassing on the pitch, what a joke.I'm sorry but language like this does us no credit and I hate to think my criticism of the policing is in any way linked to it by this thread. I have personal experience of how hard the police liaison officers work with the football club, and also of how effective they have been in the past at preventing our thugs from damaging the club's good name by intervening to stop trouble before it has even started. My criticism is aimed specifically at the way last night's match was handled and the way it needlessly created a situation which put innocent fans in genuine danger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Topbuzz Posted February 28, 2007 Report Share Posted February 28, 2007 A few of the gas stewards tried hard to keep it cordial Big black lad apparently nicknamed Bad news was working hard to chill things in a constructive way Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Casual Connoisseur Posted February 28, 2007 Report Share Posted February 28, 2007 what's a red top rag? and why an independant solicitor?A red top is the Sun, Mirror etc and a solicitor who is not ina ny way connected to public bodies, e.g local authority etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Collis Posted February 28, 2007 Author Report Share Posted February 28, 2007 Does 1995 represent the year you were born as well?A very childish immature response. :noexpression: Where did you get 1995 from?I take it you were not in the terrace last night as it seems everyone who was has backed me up.Did anyone see the steward with his hands in the air winding the City fans up? He was then dragged away by a steward that we recognised that works at AG.Disgusting.Just been on the phone to Rovers about the way the game was handeld last night and was told only a handfull of Rovers fans came onto pitch and within minutes were escorted away from us, he went onto say that Rovers fan's got no where near us, I did ask for a pair of the rose tinted glasses that he must have been looking through last night, I'm am going to be e-mailing him pic's of the stewards that did nothing to help the girl that was being crushed.You should have asked them about one Rovers fan in particular who was aloud to stand 5 metres away from us while taunting us as the police did nothing. It took about half a minute for stewards to drag him away and all they did was push him back.All the policing was focused on the away end and I just want them to admit they got it completely wrong.I am also a witness to pepper spray being used and a certain policeman wildly swinging his baton towards us. (IMO all being completely overboard.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bcfcred Posted February 28, 2007 Report Share Posted February 28, 2007 A red top is the Sun, Mirror etc and a solicitor who is not ina ny way connected to public bodies, e.g local authority etc.Ahhh right. Yeah i didnt think of going to the nationals. what exactly are the EP doing a piece on tomorrow? about how violent we were and how we nearly caused a full scale riot? as per usual from them? give me a break! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bucksred Posted February 28, 2007 Report Share Posted February 28, 2007 If that is true then it's a disgrace. As for our 'supporters' running on the pitch to 'have a go' they were complete tits. After the brilliant Policing of the first leg I was hoping they'd sorted their act out but I was wrong.Maybe Mesa, just maybe we'll hear less of this family club horlicks from the blue few.Too often just lately its ROVERS fans in the news, but the Rovers Evening Post and Radio Bristol seem always to think its City Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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