cheshire_red Posted July 7, 2007 Report Share Posted July 7, 2007 We the undersigned petition the Prime Minister to Bring back dedicated military hospitals and provide adequate facilities (non NHS) for members of the Armed Forces who are injured or disabled in the course of their duties..........Petition To Bring Back Military Hospitals Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slartibartfast Posted July 8, 2007 Report Share Posted July 8, 2007 We the undersigned petition the Prime Minister to Bring back dedicated military hospitals and provide adequate facilities (non NHS) for members of the Armed Forces who are injured or disabled in the course of their duties..........Petition To Bring Back Military Hospitals and this is on the City forum, why? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zookeeper Posted July 8, 2007 Report Share Posted July 8, 2007 We the undersigned petition the Prime Minister to Bring back dedicated military hospitals and provide adequate facilities (non NHS) for members of the Armed Forces who are injured or disabled in the course of their duties..........Petition To Bring Back Military Hospitals How do they make this economically viable? Why should or would they double up huge amounts of resources to provide similar care? How many of these hospitals will there be? Should there be a hospital near every base? Surely it would be better to build areas that would provide adequate care for both millitary and non millatary people rather than double the budget by segregating.Why is this on the City forum? I appreciate that city fans are in the army and are injured on duty but why? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flaxbourton Red Posted July 8, 2007 Report Share Posted July 8, 2007 How do they make this economically viable? Why should or would they double up huge amounts of resources to provide similar care? How many of these hospitals will there be? Should there be a hospital near every base? Surely it would be better to build areas that would provide adequate care for both millitary and non millatary people rather than double the budget by segregating.Why is this on the City forum? I appreciate that city fans are in the army and are injured on duty but why?Economically viable? what does that mean?Is it economically viable to have members of the armed forces suffering with horrific injuries and PTSD to be berated in their hospital bed by members of the public opposed to the war?Injured members of the armed forces deserve decent treatment; they are putting their lives at risk for the country, they do not deserve busy general hospitals where staff have little experience of nursing battle casualties and where they are forced to share facilities with civilians with totally different needs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zookeeper Posted July 8, 2007 Report Share Posted July 8, 2007 Economically viable? what does that mean?Is it economically viable to have members of the armed forces suffering with horrific injuries and PTSD to be berated in their hospital bed by members of the public opposed to the war?Injured members of the armed forces deserve decent treatment; they are putting their lives at risk for the country, they do not deserve busy general hospitals where staff have little experience of nursing battle casualties and where they are forced to share facilities with civilians with totally different needs.It means that resources are scare and this will just furter stretch them!Everyone deserves decent treatment.Actually everyone deserves the highest standard of free treatment. Unfortunately that is not always possible. The point being that if they decide to double up the treatment then the required levels will not be achieved for anybody unless there is huge investment and the opportunity cost of this expenditure would affect another area.Nobody should be berated in their hospital bed by anyone but is the only reason to invest in millatary hospitals is to stop this from happening? Why not invest in specific wards in specific hospitals that can cater for their needs but can also have access to shared machines. Machines such as MRI scans and the highly trained staff required to understand their readings cost a lot of money and I don't see a reason to have them in two locations. I would like to understand the resons why specific hospitals should be built. I could imagine that a major element would focus on rehab. Maybe someone could explain them to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flaxbourton Red Posted July 8, 2007 Report Share Posted July 8, 2007 It means that resources are scare and this will just furter stretch them!Everyone deserves decent treatment.Actually everyone deserves the highest standard of free treatment. Unfortunately that is not always possible. The point being that if they decide to double up the treatment then the required levels will not be achieved for anybody unless there is huge investment and the opportunity cost of this expenditure would affect another area.Funding for Military hospitals comes from the MoD not the NHS.Nobody should be berated in their hospital bed by anyone but is the only reason to invest in millatary hospitals is to stop this from happening? Why not invest in specific wards in specific hospitals that can cater for their needs but can also have access to shared machines. Machines such as MRI scans and the highly trained staff required to understand their readings cost a lot of money and I don't see a reason to have them in two locations. I would like to understand the resons why specific hospitals should be built. I could imagine that a major element would focus on rehab. Maybe someone could explain them to me.They don't have to be built, the last military hospital in portsmouth is due to close in 2009.Military hospitals could be used to treat civillains when not needed in times of war, thus easing the pressure on the NHS. We are due to be the only country in the western world without a military hospital. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lukejones2 Posted July 8, 2007 Report Share Posted July 8, 2007 I have someone very close to me who lost a limb and a few digits in Iraq. He was treated at a "civilian" hospital and the fact is that the injuries soldiers have are not generally suffered by non soldiers. they should have specialist nurses and specialist facilities. The nurses where he was tried but just couldn't deal with the injuries as well as the visiting military personnel did when they came visiting.I have signed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OC 1645 Posted July 8, 2007 Report Share Posted July 8, 2007 Economically viable? what does that mean?Is it economically viable to have members of the armed forces suffering with horrific injuries and PTSD to be berated in their hospital bed by members of the public opposed to the war?Injured members of the armed forces deserve decent treatment; they are putting their lives at risk for the country, they do not deserve busy general hospitals where staff have little experience of nursing battle casualties and where they are forced to share facilities with civilians with totally different needs.A great post from Flaxbourton Red, and whether or not you agree with our service personnel fighting in foreign lands they are fighting on behalf of the Government many elected. PTSD - Post Traumatic Stress Disorder - is a terrible mental condition that often visits ex soldiers often leading to the afflicted soldier committing suicide. The Government could provide specialist PTSD treatment at the very, very least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barrs Court Red Posted July 8, 2007 Report Share Posted July 8, 2007 The treatment of our armed forces post serving and retired is appalling. They are treated like lepers by the state.They certainly deserve more than NHS care. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Collis Posted July 8, 2007 Report Share Posted July 8, 2007 If thousands of Bristol City fans can reach out and give money to support a Rovers fan injured in the war, then the government should be capable of offering soldiers first class private heatlhcare. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OC 1645 Posted July 8, 2007 Report Share Posted July 8, 2007 If thousands of Bristol City fans can reach out and give money to support a Rovers fan injured in the war, then the government should be capable of offering soldiers first class private heatlhcare.Our Government is not capable of organising a decent piss up in a brewery or even a decent f u c k up in a whorehouse if it's for our benefit and not the politicians' benefit. If anything is to be done to help the battle injured soldiers then it has to be us - the people - to help them not the overpaid politicians - who are interested in nothing other than where the next big back-hander is coming from.The Rovers lad Iraq bomb victim - Jamie - was left in agony on a matress while the goons that started the Iraq war were supping Champagne in the House of Commons duty free bar. Our Government couldn't give a damn about him or any of us if we were in the same situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bucksred Posted July 10, 2007 Report Share Posted July 10, 2007 Signed, as you all should do. the least you can do is look after those who lay their lives on the line for this country. remember, you have a choice about the war. they don't. they serve the Queen, and her legitimately elected government Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bransonmo Posted July 11, 2007 Report Share Posted July 11, 2007 Signed. I have spent time as a patient in military hospitals, and they are certainly different. Briefly, my first visit made me feel insignificant, six weeks in hospital with malaria. Meanwhile most of the other 60 odd patients in the ward, had limbs and chunks of meat missing all over their bodies. Nowadays I get free treatment for 7 war related ailments. Military hospitals usually treat old soldiers and new soldiers for a range of illnesses and wounds not usually found in mainstream society. Remember this, there are still servicemen and women in their 80's from world war2, still deserving care and intention. They are no less deserving, probably more so. If we can make their sunset years a little more bearable, thats as it should be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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