ciderup Posted February 3, 2008 Report Share Posted February 3, 2008 Are we getting to the point where we should be looking at an ID card system for away travel similar to the Stoke City fans?It would certainly stop the trouble makers.just a point for discussion! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frome Valley Posted February 3, 2008 Report Share Posted February 3, 2008 The only trouble yesterday was caused by the police not fans.:noexpression: They get paid pretty well and hold clubs to ransom and for that a higher level of service should be expected.In any case even if City fans were forced to use id we would still be subjected to the same policing as yesterday as huge police operations still follow Cardiff, Millwall and Stoke about. It solves nothing and simply makes watching your club even more difficult. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest zider_head Posted February 3, 2008 Report Share Posted February 3, 2008 I hope not, why should the average Joe be made to go to such measures for some idiots ?If the Police / Club did the job properly it would be a issue anyway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nibor Posted February 3, 2008 Report Share Posted February 3, 2008 It would half away attendances just like it did to Stoke's because you can't decide to go on a whim. It would not prevent trouble makers who can still attend the game by buying home tickets and can still travel even if they don't attend.In short, a terrible idea that solves nothing and persecutes the majority who have done nothing wrong. Just like most nanny state measures.What we need it proper policing where they identify and prosecute offenders instead of herd innocent fans like cattle and brutalise them.That's probably too difficult for the subnormal IQs present in most police forces these days unfortunately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Portland Bill Posted February 3, 2008 Report Share Posted February 3, 2008 Are we getting to the point where we should be looking at an ID card system for away travel similar to the Stoke City fans?It would certainly stop the trouble makers.just a point for discussion!No discussion. don't be stupid :noexpression: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KnowleUtd City Posted February 3, 2008 Report Share Posted February 3, 2008 Are we getting to the point where we should be looking at an ID card system for away travel similar to the Stoke City fans?It would certainly stop the trouble makers.just a point for discussion!Just because you've got the hump with a few lads beered up swearing in front of your son yesterday, what did you expect?? we were taking 3k away for a game in london which is attractive for the lads to go on the lash. It's been the same for ever and a day and it always will be, either tell your son that it's what happens at football but it's not acceptable from him, or don't take him to certain games! don't bleat about ID cards etc, nobody would want that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest zider_head Posted February 3, 2008 Report Share Posted February 3, 2008 I can never understand why Parents take kids to footie then moan about swearing or give you evil looks, I mean if you got a issue go sit in the family enclourse (which is what its designed for) and if you have a issue there report it to a steward who i doubt will do much but all the same least you have a argument then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ecko Posted February 3, 2008 Report Share Posted February 3, 2008 Don't be a #### mate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gamon Posted February 3, 2008 Report Share Posted February 3, 2008 It would half away attendances just like it did to Stoke's because you can't decide to go on a whim. It would not prevent trouble makers who can still attend the game by buying home tickets and can still travel even if they don't attend.In short, a terrible idea that solves nothing and persecutes the majority who have done nothing wrong. Just like most nanny state measures.What we need it proper policing where they identify and prosecute offenders instead of herd innocent fans like cattle and brutalise them.That's probably too difficult for the subnormal IQs present in most police forces these days unfortunately.They (OB) have no respect for the paying public and are armed with too much power which is regluly abused when it comes to dealing with football supporters.Time some of these draconian powers were removed from the OB.Whats needed is two-way respect and there was none on show yesterday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ciderup Posted February 3, 2008 Author Report Share Posted February 3, 2008 Just because you've got the hump with a few lads beered up swearing in front of your son yesterday, what did you expect?? we were taking 3k away for a game in london which is attractive for the lads to go on the lash. It's been the same for ever and a day and it always will be, either tell your son that it's what happens at football but it's not acceptable from him, or don't take him to certain games! don't bleat about ID cards etc, nobody would want that!I haven't got the hump atall! it had been mentioned on another forum so I thought it would be a 'point to discuss' on here!it seems that you cannot post on here without getting abused now! FYI I would be against it as it would stop people travelling when they may decide to go on the day of a game!Prat! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KnowleUtd City Posted February 3, 2008 Report Share Posted February 3, 2008 I haven't got the hump atall! it had been mentioned on another forum so I thought it would be a 'point to discuss' on here!it seems that you cannot post on here without getting abused now! FYI I would be against it as it would stop people travelling when they may decide to go on the day of a game!Prat!Where have I abused you chief?You clearly said in other threads that you were not going to bother going away any more because of drunk fella's swearing in front of your boy yesterday, and now you start a thread about ID cards. That would suggest that you are none to happy? (ie got the hump)If you don't like it don't take him to certain games - easy.ps - thanks for the prat remark especially as you bothered to type 'you can't post on here without getting abused' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dolman Block B Posted February 3, 2008 Report Share Posted February 3, 2008 The only trouble yesterday was caused by the police not fans.:noexpression: They get paid pretty well and hold clubs to ransom and for that a higher level of service should be expected.In any case even if City fans were forced to use id we would still be subjected to the same policing as yesterday as huge police operations still follow Cardiff, Millwall and Stoke about. It solves nothing and simply makes watching your club even more difficult.Proper.Like a young copper told me,"I'm on £60 a hour to police this today"Treble time for the met plod Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ciderup Posted February 3, 2008 Author Report Share Posted February 3, 2008 Where have I abused you chief?You clearly said in other threads that you were not going to bother going away any more because of drunk fella's swearing in front of your boy yesterday, and now you start a thread about ID cards. That would suggest that you are none to happy? (ie got the hump)If you don't like it don't take him to certain games - easy.ps - thanks for the prat remark especially as you bothered to type 'you can't post on here without getting abused'I posted on the other thread about swearing,yes! That was unfortunate but I have been watching City long enough to expect that! I wasn't happy about people trying to step on my nipper in order to go and abuse the QPR fans or the reaction of the stewards!I apologise for calling you a prat!The ID card was purely for discussion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grove park city Posted February 3, 2008 Report Share Posted February 3, 2008 Just because you've got the hump with a few lads beered up swearing in front of your son yesterday, what did you expect?? we were taking 3k away for a game in london which is attractive for the lads to go on the lash. It's been the same for ever and a day and it always will be, either tell your son that it's what happens at football but it's not acceptable from him, or don't take him to certain games! don't bleat about ID cards etc, nobody would want that! Dead right all this total over reaction its football not a womens institute meeting. Queers Parks pathetic support was more interested in mouthing off in typical cockney we are better than every one else fashion,what did their stewards or the police do ? NOTHING the bunch of idiots on the left hand side of the city fans spent best part of the match goading the away fans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Portishead Red Posted February 3, 2008 Report Share Posted February 3, 2008 I can only assume that you have been following City since the late 90's and that you're quite young (no dis-respect meant).Please explain to me why the need for ID cards? There was very little if any trouble yesterday and at Palace it was just goading and chest puffing (i was at both).The only game there has been fisticuffs was at Wolves...and that was because their lads started attacking innocent City fans.!Have a look at the late 70's and 80's (maybe early 90's) and compare it to nowadays. I have been to nearly every home and away game this season and not seen any serious disorder at any - and i've been drinking with these so called trouble makers! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KnowleUtd City Posted February 3, 2008 Report Share Posted February 3, 2008 I posted on the other thread about swearing,yes! That was unfortunate but I have been watching City long enough to expect that! I wasn't happy about people trying to step on my nipper in order to go and abuse the QPR fans or the reaction of the stewards!I apologise for calling you a prat!The ID card was purely for discussion.No worries mate, I would be annoyed if the same happened to my son, some self policing is needed at times.Up the City! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kieran07 Posted February 3, 2008 Report Share Posted February 3, 2008 i think its about time they do this as i'm sick of trying to keep my kids out of the way from (sorry to say this)some of are #######s fans who want to start trouble all the time and sorry to say it is are fans who start %99 of the time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Portishead Red Posted February 3, 2008 Report Share Posted February 3, 2008 Where is this "trouble" everybody keeps going on about?????????????????????????????Please, somebody tell me!!!!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tin Posted February 3, 2008 Report Share Posted February 3, 2008 i think its about time they do this as i'm sick of trying to keep my kids out of the way from (sorry to say this)some of are #######s fans who want to start trouble all the time and sorry to say it is are fans who start %99 of the timeI'm sure it's something your kids have all heard before. I remember swear words being said on the playground when I was a nipper so don't see your problem with a few people venting their frustrations at a game. ID cards would be a nightmare situation and it's an absolute non-starter. Look at the great success it's been in slowing immigration! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
no1cityfan_tucks Posted February 3, 2008 Report Share Posted February 3, 2008 The only trouble yesterday was caused by the police not fans.:noexpression: They get paid pretty well and hold clubs to ransom and for that a higher level of service should be expected.Open your eyes mate. There are a small percentage that travel to watch Bristol City with the aim or getting drunk and having a fight. THe most recent game, Palace away! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bringbacktherobin Posted February 3, 2008 Report Share Posted February 3, 2008 Right, how will this help at all?People who want to go the day before the game wont be able to because they might not have this ID. Who are you going to ban? Inside the ground what did these hooligans do? Nothing, so what difference will it make?Look at stokes away support, shocking now. Most people cannt be bothered with the hassle of ID Cards.And no1cityfan_tucks, making people late for the game isnt going to make people happy is it. You treat people like animals and they will respond like animals.Treat them like humans and they will behave like humans.Making people late for the game, hurding them around like cattle etc will make normal people turn nasty. Whos fault was it for the slllllllllloooooooooooooow escort yesterday, the police. The police should have the skills to pick out people that they think will cause trouble. Unless you want to arrest people before they actually do anything? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frome Valley Posted February 3, 2008 Report Share Posted February 3, 2008 Open your eyes mate. There are a small percentage that travel to watch Bristol City with the aim or getting drunk and having a fight. THe most recent game, Palace away!Then eventually they will be convicted, banned and be unable to attend games as they will be breaching their banning order which is a further criminal offence.How would ID cards alter anything apart from creating yet more suspicion and an opportunity for a minority of police officers to abuse their position? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scroobs Posted February 3, 2008 Report Share Posted February 3, 2008 Are we getting to the point where we should be looking at an ID card system for away travel similar to the Stoke City fans?It would certainly stop the trouble makers.just a point for discussion!You need to get a grip on what watching football is about. This is the same person who took there young son to see City at Palace, saw a bit of handbags (and that's all is was) and then vouched never to attend another City away game because his son cried. So I'm quite suprised to see the same guy back here complaining that his son had to listen to City supporters swearing (OMG) at QPR yesterday......I thought you weren't travelling anymore! Might be best if you don't bother in future, your son could end up a nervous wreck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barrs Court Red Posted February 3, 2008 Report Share Posted February 3, 2008 You need to get a grip on what watching football is about. This is the same person who took there young son to see City at Palace, saw a bit of handbags (and that's all is was) and then vouched never to attend another City away game because his son cried. So I'm quite suprised to see the same guy back here complaining that his son had to listen to City supporters swearing (OMG) at QPR yesterday......I thought you weren't travelling anymore! Might be best if you don't bother in future, your son could end up a nervous wreck.Indeed, the same guy who actually stated he'd like City fans to die. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kieran07 Posted February 3, 2008 Report Share Posted February 3, 2008 I'm sure it's something your kids have all heard before. I remember swear words being said on the playground when I was a nipper so don't see your problem with a few people venting their frustrations at a game. ID cards would be a nightmare situation and it's an absolute non-starter. Look at the great success it's been in slowing immigration!by the sound of it your one of the many #######s that cause the trouble i would be great to see the back you and many others my kids are aged 6 and 5 you think thats what they go to see you lot fighting i don't think so they go to support or team its about time you grow up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nibor Posted February 3, 2008 Report Share Posted February 3, 2008 by the sound of it your one of the many #######s that cause the trouble i would be great to see the back you and many others my kids are aged 6 and 5 you think thats what they go to see you lot fighting i don't think so they go to support or team its about time you grow upI think you should probably stop making stupid assumptions and exaggerating and then apologize for calling someone a hooligan just because he pointed out that your kids have heard swearwords before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trundle wheel Posted February 4, 2008 Report Share Posted February 4, 2008 I don't think that people should get so wound up over this 'debate'. I guess the point here is that some people actually don't really like the 'hooligan' element and worry about attending matches because it exists. I'm not sure how these cards would work exactly, but isn't it the old case that if you behave, you've nothing to worry about? The days of accepting this behaviour which only seems ok at footie should be long gone. How we get there though is another story and i for one see no problem with this 'debate' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest red ken 2 Posted February 4, 2008 Report Share Posted February 4, 2008 Are we getting to the point where we should be looking at an ID card system for away travel similar to the Stoke City fans?It would certainly stop the trouble makers.just a point for discussion!Wake up and smell the coffee, a form of ID cards were tried at City in the mid eighty's proved unworkable. A certain Mr Bob Twyford (club secretary ex OB) thought they would cure all of the club's ill's, how wrong he was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CiderJar Posted February 4, 2008 Report Share Posted February 4, 2008 I'd get one. It wouldn't do any harm at all. I go to games, I watch the game, I go home. If I had a card would I get priority for tickets? It's a good idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bcfc_4_life Posted February 4, 2008 Report Share Posted February 4, 2008 I'd get one. It wouldn't do any harm at all. I go to games, I watch the game, I go home. If I had a card would I get priority for tickets? It's a good idea.If we did put this ID card inplace our away following won't be as good as it has been the last few years... and rightly so, why should the rest of us fans do this when theres a minority of hooligans that will still just turn up and cause trouble with ID cards or not? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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