Sammy H Posted March 16, 2008 Report Share Posted March 16, 2008 Normally I back GJ all the way, and have been impressed by his signings so far, but please can anyone see what Dele brings to the side?He's poor in the air, slow and static. I've been to the majority of the home games this year and the last 5 performances have not been a team who deserve to go up.Additionally I really don't see why we signed Nick Carle. Since his arrival we have changed starting formation to suit, lacked penetration and have never really looked like scoring, apart from Marv on the edge of the box.When you see Lita, Bothroyd etc moving and we sign Adebola who, if you speak to Cov fans, was finished years ago.Bring back Brooker!!!!! A 70% fit SB is better that what we've got at the moment!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bcfcas1 Posted March 16, 2008 Report Share Posted March 16, 2008 Normally I back GJ all the way, and have been impressed by his signings so far, but please can anyone see what Dele brings to the side?He's poor in the air, slow and static. I've been to the majority of the home games this year and the last 5 performances have not been a team who deserve to go up.Additionally I really don't see why we signed Nick Carle. Since his arrival we have changed starting formation to suit, lacked penetration and have never really looked like scoring, apart from Marv on the edge of the box.When you see Lita, Bothroyd etc moving and we sign Adebola who, if you speak to Cov fans, was finished years ago.Bring back Brooker!!!!! A 70% fit SB is better that what we've got at the moment!!!!So the team, in your opinion, isn't good enough to go up and its Dele's and Carle's fault?Dele has been a big signing for us, and one of the players, IMO, that gave us the catalyst to get to the summit. 3 goals and involved in several more. A decent return so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew_V1 Posted March 16, 2008 Report Share Posted March 16, 2008 I have to agree with the original post 110%, since the signing of big dele, we have definitely changed our football style, and it has changed for the worse. We over rely on long balls up to adebola...which would make sense if he dominated in the air and won things, but he doesn't, and when he does there is the next problem of being no one around him to pick up the ball.I think it says it all really when we bring on a natural centre back in tamas Vasko to play the same role, and he won pretty much every high or long ball, dominated their defence and really shown up "the genius big man signing we really needed" and how to play the target man role properly.If you look throughout the season, you cannot really disagree that before adebola, we played a better game and imho had much better tactics going into matches. With adebola we aren't a million miles away from playing Hoofball! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bransonmo Posted March 16, 2008 Report Share Posted March 16, 2008 Ade is doing what very few of you have had to do, play as a lone striker. That is very physically demanding, and not something that the human body can endure for too long. It is my opinion that GJ is trying to milk Ade and Elliot for all that he can, even if he runs them into the ground, just get promotion. I think he's wrong, oh my God, GJ wrong, ok so what are you going to do, spit some venom on a forum ? So whats the answer, play a 70% fit Elliot, or a 100% committed Skuse. Ade at the current usage is good for around an hour, then bring on Brooker, or reverse the process, start with Brooker and finish with Ade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
collier Posted March 16, 2008 Report Share Posted March 16, 2008 Talking out your rear end if any of you believe that dele doesnt win things in the air. Every game he has played he has won countless flick ons and knock downs but their hasnt been anyone there to pick up the second ball. He plays on his own as well, which means than the defenders pretty much know where the ball will be played and act accordingly. I think he had done really well, scored vital goals and created a fair few chances its just that others arnt taking them. So I wonder what he has to do for you to feel like he is contributing?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kibs Posted March 16, 2008 Report Share Posted March 16, 2008 Dele Adebola has done everything asked of him. He has won countless headers, Worked extremely hard, Held the ball up and chipped in with a few goals. I have absoloutly no complaints about him.However, I do agree with what somebody else said, We have changed the way we play since his arrival. We are far more direct and almost everything seems to be hit at Dele at the earliest opportunity. Where has our short passing and penetrating football gone? Earlier in the season we used to retain posession, pass and move, pass and move and try and create an opening that way.........some people were even comparing our style of football to that of Arsenal!!I havent seen this for quite some time now....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Humble Realist Posted March 16, 2008 Report Share Posted March 16, 2008 Lets look at a few facts, Adebola 3 goals in about 8 games, Trundle 4 goals in about 30 games, SHowumni-about 5 goals in about 20 games, Brooker 5 goals in about 10 games (at league one level). I have ommited Byfield as he isnt a target man and i have omitted Vasko as he isnt really a striker. Trundle isnt a targetman but he has played in Adebolas role.Based on the facts there is no reason to criticse Adebolas contribution and to say he isnt a good player. 70% Brooker would not be better than Adebola. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kibs Posted March 16, 2008 Report Share Posted March 16, 2008 Lets forget this 70% Brooker stuff. He has played 14 games for Cheltenham, Taken a while to settle and get match fit and scored 5 in his last 6.Since his arrival they have won 6, drawn 4 and lost 4 and on that sort of form they would be in the top 10 over the course of a season.Steve Brooker is 100% fit, he has made a HUGE difference to their team. If we don't get him back now then when will we.......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex_BCFC Posted March 16, 2008 Report Share Posted March 16, 2008 Adebola started of well but looks tired now. Maybe a weeks rest will help him. As someone said- 3 goals in 8 games is the best rate for any of our strikers.As for Carle, for me he is an improvement on LJ and better thna Noble. He has improved our team and I think will only get better as his time goes on in England. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest WellyCiderHead Posted March 16, 2008 Report Share Posted March 16, 2008 Normally I back GJ all the way, and have been impressed by his signings so far, but please can anyone see what Dele brings to the side?He's poor in the air,sorry mate thats rubbish, hes quality in the air. lost count of the times he flicks on and theres no one there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tin Posted March 16, 2008 Report Share Posted March 16, 2008 Adebola started of well but looks tired now. Maybe a weeks rest will help him. As someone said- 3 goals in 8 games is the best rate for any of our strikers.As for Carle, for me he is an improvement on LJ and better thna Noble. He has improved our team and I think will only get better as his time goes on in England.Fair points but all knowledgable fans knew Dele wasn't a goalscorer when we brought him in so it's not fair on him to be judged on his goal ratio. I thought a return of 5 goals from him between January and May would've been realistic for him. I think he's come in, done a good job but is being played in the wrong role. He may well be tiring as he's played pretty much every game so far but I don't think it helps when he's got nobody around him to pick up on the knockdown's and flick-on's. The time is most definately right to bring Brooker back. He seems to be flying at the moment and if, as you suggest, Dele is tiring then now's the time for him to come home.Agree with the Carle comment. Thought he was just about our best player yesterday and looks much better in the middle than in the hole. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nedbcfc Posted March 16, 2008 Report Share Posted March 16, 2008 does anybody know when brookers loan actually ends?.. because I have a feeling it is soon, and we will all know if gary j does or doesn't want him after brooks is told to stay at cheltenham or come back to us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robins72 Posted March 16, 2008 Report Share Posted March 16, 2008 does anybody know when brookers loan actually ends?.. because I have a feeling it is soon, and we will all know if gary j does or doesn't want him after brooks is told to stay at cheltenham or come back to us.It was renewed on 11th March for another month. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BITW Posted March 16, 2008 Report Share Posted March 16, 2008 Normally I back GJ all the way, and have been impressed by his signings so far, but please can anyone see what Dele brings to the side?He's poor in the air, slow and static. I've been to the majority of the home games this year and the last 5 performances have not been a team who deserve to go up.Additionally I really don't see why we signed Nick Carle. Since his arrival we have changed starting formation to suit, lacked penetration and have never really looked like scoring, apart from Marv on the edge of the box.When you see Lita, Bothroyd etc moving and we sign Adebola who, if you speak to Cov fans, was finished years ago.Bring back Brooker!!!!! A 70% fit SB is better that what we've got at the moment!!!!Is that a joke :noexpression: Poor in the air :noexpression: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheese Posted March 16, 2008 Report Share Posted March 16, 2008 ....but please can anyone see what Dele brings to the side?Yes, he brings in the doughnuts and cream cakes. Trunds makes the tea, Byfield washes and Lee wipes. Meanwhile, GJ drones on about some grass and a ball - no-one listens. Hence we are staring relegation in the face. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stick Posted March 16, 2008 Report Share Posted March 16, 2008 if Dele is poor in the air, maybe we should bring back Bas Savage to grace the play on the floordid you see how many knock on's and flicks etc he won at the plymouth game ?ok so we lost, but thats not down to Dele not winning ball in the air, its down to the lack of finishing from the players around himas for NC, he is one player who constantly looks forward and tries to play clever ball into the forwardswe are still 2nd in the league so something must be working get behind the team now while they need it and stop taking a pop at playerswho is that going to help....no one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whale Eye Beef Hooked Posted March 17, 2008 Report Share Posted March 17, 2008 We have got what we wanted / needed when we signed Dele. He holds the ball up very well, is good in the air and scores a few goals. He did not look sharp yesterday but that is because he has played up front on his own against some very physical teams. We have also been playing twice a week and for anyone who has played up front at any kind of level will know that it is bloody hard work, so fair play to him, but he does need a rest. I say bring brroker in alongside trundle who looked good on saturday and see how they get on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Portishead Red Posted March 17, 2008 Report Share Posted March 17, 2008 Fair points but all knowledgable fans knew Dele wasn't a goalscorer when we brought him in so it's not fair on him to be judged on his goal ratio. I thought a return of 5 goals from him between January and May would've been realistic for him. I think he's come in, done a good job but is being played in the wrong role. He may well be tiring as he's played pretty much every game so far but I don't think it helps when he's got nobody around him to pick up on the knockdown's and flick-on's. The time is most definately right to bring Brooker back. He seems to be flying at the moment and if, as you suggest, Dele is tiring then now's the time for him to come home.Agree with the Carle comment. Thought he was just about our best player yesterday and looks much better in the middle than in the hole.I think his ratio was 1 in 4 or 5 at Cov.With regards to other posts. How many goals has big dele got in comparison with Byfield, trundle, carle, noble and Lee Johnson???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray White Posted March 17, 2008 Report Share Posted March 17, 2008 This post is nonsense, Adebola is immense in the air and won 95% of headers on Saturday, he must of flicked the ball on about 20 times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete1975Legend Posted March 17, 2008 Report Share Posted March 17, 2008 Here we go with LJ out of the team poor old the is for it with the negatibve posters.the has been a great signing so far and has won more headers than ES in the whole of last season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcbcfc Posted March 17, 2008 Report Share Posted March 17, 2008 This post is nonsense, Adebola is immense in the air and won 95% of headers on Saturday, he must of flicked the ball on about 20 times.Yup spot on, the problem is no one runs by him Byfield simply isn't up to it for 90 minutes and other than him we have no pace up top. Maybe we take a gamble and put Sproule along side Dele? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sodburyred Posted March 17, 2008 Report Share Posted March 17, 2008 Yup spot on, the problem is no one runs by him Byfield simply isn't up to it for 90 minutes and other than him we have no pace up top. Maybe we take a gamble and put Sproule along side Dele?JMW?? He would be quick enough to get the knock ons! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nibor Posted March 17, 2008 Report Share Posted March 17, 2008 The question isn't what Adebola brings to the side, it's why he only brings it one game in three or four from what I've seen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CiderSomerset Posted March 17, 2008 Report Share Posted March 17, 2008 The question isn't what Adebola brings to the side, it's why he only brings it one game in three or four from what I've seen.My other halfs uncle has a season ticket at Coventry, when we bought Dele he said he had one good game out of 4 on average.. I have been impressed with Dele, but I think a return for Brooker may give him a kick up the rear end and improve his game abit.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grifty Posted March 17, 2008 Report Share Posted March 17, 2008 JMW?? He would be quick enough to get the knock ons!I think Tristan Plummer might be a better shot!I was worried when we bought Dele because we'd start playing the long-ball, which we did, but we're starting to play the chip balls down the line for Dele to hold up and flick it for Sproule, McIndoe, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Belfastcityfan Posted March 17, 2008 Report Share Posted March 17, 2008 I was reading the Coventry match report in the Mirror and Michael Musfud has said he misses playing along side Dele as he creates alot for him. If we get promoted, maybe he is a potential target Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray White Posted March 17, 2008 Report Share Posted March 17, 2008 I agree that somebody like Mifsud is the type of player we need to get on the end of these flicks, lightening pace that scares defenders and a good finisher to boot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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