havanatopia Posted April 20, 2008 Share Posted April 20, 2008 At diving I mean?... how good a dive was that? Please give your ratings on a scale of 1 to 10 And how would you rate the linesman who 'fell' for it hook, line and real stinker. The boys a genius really. a 30 million pound dive. Oh and finally, should he stay away from Bristol ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex_BCFC Posted April 20, 2008 Share Posted April 20, 2008 He went down fairly easily but McCallister didn't help things. He was going nowhere and there was need to touch him really. Annoying but you still have to defend the free-kick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Mickey Bells left foot Posted April 20, 2008 Share Posted April 20, 2008 in my view it was a tangle of legs, neither player at fault but becasue lawrence had the ball it was always going to be a free kick, not sure what gary birtles (hate the bloke never gives teams any credit) was on about saying macca was fouling him it was just their legs getting caught up no intention what so ever! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nibor Posted April 20, 2008 Share Posted April 20, 2008 It was a dive. He played the ball too far and realised it and then ran into McAllister. Wasn't even a free kick as far as I'm concerned - since when has it been a defender's duty to get out of someone's way? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nogbad the Bad Posted April 20, 2008 Share Posted April 20, 2008 Just wish City had signed Lawrence from Mansfield about 5 years ago when several of us on here were suggesting it. By the way, reckon Lee Croft would be a good signing Gary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BITW Posted April 20, 2008 Share Posted April 20, 2008 I was at the game and thought it was a dive at the time. However having seen it again I think think it was clumbsy by JM and although Lawrence made a meal of it, most referees would have given it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
havanatopia Posted April 20, 2008 Author Share Posted April 20, 2008 Just wish City had signed Lawrence from Mansfield about 5 years ago when several of us on here were suggesting it. By the way, reckon Lee Croft would be a good signing Gary. Glad you did not suggest signing him now.. heresey. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bh_red Posted April 20, 2008 Share Posted April 20, 2008 (edited) Just wish City had signed Lawrence from Mansfield about 5 years ago when several of us on here were suggesting it. he was great back at Mansfield and always looked like going on to do well and looked the perfect replacement for Murray when he went to Reading, lost count of the players who we have meet in the lower league and looked obvious to have a good career, without us even looking at them, Jimmy Bullard at Peterboro and Dave Kitson at Cambridge 2 more example that we should have looked at years ago after many an impressive performance against us. personally I thought it was harsh, however JM didn't do himself any favours. Edited April 20, 2008 by bh_red Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BCFC Matt Posted April 20, 2008 Share Posted April 20, 2008 (edited) A silly foul to give away, he was going away from goal! LL didn't quite beat Michael Mcindoe in terms of how to dive. Did anyone else spot the free kick MM won when he went down with no contact from the LL challenge near the halfway line?!!! Edited April 20, 2008 by BCFC Matt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Harvey_BCFC Posted April 20, 2008 Share Posted April 20, 2008 It wasn't a dive at all, Jamie was clumsy. Why do our fans try so hard to justify our failure? Why can't you just accept that we were shit and never looked dangerous at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tin Posted April 20, 2008 Share Posted April 20, 2008 Just wish City had signed Lawrence from Mansfield about 5 years ago when several of us on here were suggesting it. By the way, reckon Lee Croft would be a good signing Gary. Agree on both parts. I mentioned Croft on here a few weeks ago and think he'd be an ideal target for us this summer presuming Norwich would be open to offers. Lawrence was one of a few players showing promise in the lower leagues. Him and Bullard stood out for me. I remember going to Peterborough away a few years ago when we lost 4-1 and Bullard got two screamers and his ability was there for all to see. Sadly, Lawrence did go down very easily but McAllister should've been wise enough to stand him up in the knowledge Stoke play for these set pieces and that he wouldn't get done on the outside for pace. Canny play by the winger though but that's what Premier League experience brings to your team, especially when they were looking to play to their strength's by winning set pieces around the box. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Humble Realist Posted April 20, 2008 Share Posted April 20, 2008 This isnt the reason we arnt going up automatically, people get way too carried awya on this forum with small details like " a free kick here or a free kick there" but its 46 game season Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest stokefan Posted April 20, 2008 Share Posted April 20, 2008 This isnt the reason we arnt going up automatically, people get way too carried awya on this forum with small details like " a free kick here or a free kick there" but its 46 game season! good post! the ref was totally on your side so we are susprized he gave it us! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Mickey Bells left foot Posted April 20, 2008 Share Posted April 20, 2008 not really, won a free kick and shaved the post taking a free kick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Humble Realist Posted April 20, 2008 Share Posted April 20, 2008 (edited) cant really say i agree that the ref was on our side, however he certainly wasnt on Stokes side either, thought Riley got majority of decisions right but just handled game badly booking Mcindoe and Fuller unnecersarily. As for boothenendboy, i presume your a stoke fan, if so good luck for the rest of the season, lets hope u get more points than derby next year Edited April 20, 2008 by Stucks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest brizzleite Posted April 20, 2008 Share Posted April 20, 2008 Liam Lawrence in my opinion one of the best championship players his crossing of the ball is excellent, Bristol city froze on the occasion, the home crowd made it an intimidating atmosphere and it wasnt until later in the second half when it became a match. Mike Riley had a poor game and the best team won on the day. GJ is a brilliant manager,bcfc have surprised a lot of people this season,The club needs to unite ie supporters,players, otherwise you will self destruct if it ends up being playoffs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Portland Bill Posted April 20, 2008 Share Posted April 20, 2008 good post! the ref was totally on your side so we are susprized he gave it us! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BASSO Posted April 21, 2008 Share Posted April 21, 2008 It was a dive!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I am not sure if it was a foul or not though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edson Posted April 21, 2008 Share Posted April 21, 2008 It was a dive. He played the ball too far and realised it and then ran into McAllister. Wasn't even a free kick as far as I'm concerned - since when has it been a defender's duty to get out of someone's way? That's how I saw it. Lawrence altered the angle of his run to collect McAllister's leg once he knew the ball had gone away from him. Had he run directly to the ball, he wouldn't have run into McAllister. Can't blame him really. Sadly, The Mike Riley Show was in town and he wasn't allowing any physical contact without blowing his whistle. I'm not suggesting for one second he was biased, as he gave us numerous freekicks for bugger all. He was just incompetent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nibor Posted April 21, 2008 Share Posted April 21, 2008 That's how I saw it. Lawrence altered the angle of his run to collect McAllister's leg once he knew the ball had gone away from him. Had he run directly to the ball, he wouldn't have run into McAllister. Can't blame him really. Sadly, The Mike Riley Show was in town and he wasn't allowing any physical contact without blowing his whistle. I'm not suggesting for one second he was biased, as he gave us numerous freekicks for bugger all. He was just incompetent. The thing that bugs me is this growing view that contact = foul. If you play the ball past someone and then run into them without them moving into your path or making a challenge they didn't impede you, it's not a foul. If a defender makes a challenge and misses but doesn't impede you that's not an excuse to trail a leg to fake contact and then go down like a $10 hooker. Thanks to shitty commentators many fans now seem to think now that it's OK to drop like you've been shot whenever you feel a touch. It's crap and it's ruining the game. Players should be playing on even if they've been tackled neck high and then the referees will be free to exercise some judgement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex_BCFC Posted April 21, 2008 Share Posted April 21, 2008 Sadly, The Mike Riley Show was in town and he wasn't allowing any physical contact without blowing his whistle. I'm not suggesting for one second he was biased, as he gave us numerous freekicks for bugger all. He was just incompetent. He did give us a lot of free-kicks to be fair when he should have let the game carry on. It was the linesman who gave the Liam Lawrence foul though- not sure if Riley would have blown up if the linesman hasdn't of flagged. I was fairly close to the incident and to me Lawrence went down like a fairy, but the problem was McCallister didn't need to touch him but did. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edson Posted April 21, 2008 Share Posted April 21, 2008 He did give us a lot of free-kicks to be fair when he should have let the game carry on. It was the linesman who gave the Liam Lawrence foul though- not sure if Riley would have blown up if the linesman hasdn't of flagged. I was fairly close to the incident and to me Lawrence went down like a fairy, but the problem was McCallister didn't need to touch him but did. Did McAllister have a choice though? Lawrence changed his run after the ball went away from him to deliberately collide with Mcallister, so other than evaporating into thin air, I'm not sure there's much he could have done to avoid contact. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foghornred Posted April 21, 2008 Share Posted April 21, 2008 Stop all this playacting but what annoyed me more was that he was allowed to pull the ball back about 8 yards to take the free kick from a more adventitious position. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Always Believesham Posted April 21, 2008 Share Posted April 21, 2008 its a shame trunds didnt score that punch because that would have made up for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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