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That’s my view too. Would have preferred the parachute clubs out of the way for next season - Leeds have blown it though.

Yes 15k is this season’s figure - and that includes half season tickets. So 3k haven’t renewed. So final total will depend on how many new season tickets are sold now and how many half season tickets are sold in December.

On point 3, we’re just going on what Gavin Marshall said in the FBC podcast when he says we have 15k season ticket holders currently and (direct quote) “we probably don’t want to have that many more season ticket holders”. He then goes onto talk about getting POTD seats in the SS by reducing season tickets there (ensures a mix of different fans in the SS like in the other stands) which is your point 2. This is consistent with what they said when they launched season tickets which was this: “Following feedback at the Fans Forum in November, where there was a collective desire to improve matchday atmosphere, we have made a number of changes to try and increase matchday attendance, particularly in the South Stand by capping the number of Season Tickets to enable more match tickets to be made available here.” I think someone said there is an EFL cap on percentage of season tickets but I’ve not seen it. However City themselves don’t seem to want to sell many more than 15k (if you take what GM says at face value) which would leave around 8k for POTD (home fans only). Their comms keep stating that there are limited tickets available. Of course they might be tested if people keep buying even after they get to, say, 16k - are they really going to say ‘no thanks’?! Not convinced they will sell that many though.

The club could solve most of its problems by appointing a strong experienced comms person who could guide on the public messaging (assuming SL and JL would listen to that guidance of course). The comms around the removal of Alexander, the sacking of Pearson and reasons given for the sacking of Pearson after the event have all been so poor.

No I’m not referring to how it looks in the ground. I mean by looking at how many POTD tickets go on sale online for the first match - that’s when we’ll see how many non season ticket holder seats are available in the SS.

Yes I’m not so sure either. Indeed some may have renewed precisely because of the ‘renewals- only’ policy, i.e. they may be concerned that if they leave the SS now, they might never be able to go back there again in the future. As I say, though, it will be interesting to see when tickets go on sale for the first match.

It will be interesting to see how many POTD tickets are available for sale in the SS for the first match of the season - I presume that will be the first time we will know how many SS ticket holders have not renewed/have moved to the family stand.

This is the Spurs rule for example: 1.5 Seat Utilisation With huge demand for tickets to our home matches, and in order to maximise access to tickets, we shall continue to monitor the utilisation of Season Tickets throughout the 2024/25 season. In an effort to increase ticket availability to One Hotspur Members, Season Ticket Holders will be responsible for ensuring that every effort is made for their Season Ticket seat to be occupied at home Premier League fixtures. As well as attendance in person, a seat will be considered utilised if it is listed for sale on Ticket Exchange or shared with a friend or family member by using Ticket Share or Ticket Upgrade (see Section 6.3). To be guaranteed a Season Ticket for the 2025/26 season, supporters will need to ensure that their seat has been utilised, as detailed above, for no less than 15 of the 19 home Premier League fixtures. The Club will work with any supporter at risk of not meeting this threshold during the season. The Club will also be providing an amnesty period during the 2024/25 season for Season Ticket Holders who do not regularly attend matches themselves to transfer the ownership of their seat.

From what I have seen, clubs who have a use it or lose it policy re season tickets tend to combine it with one important caveat - they say if you advertise the seat for sale on their ticket exchange site, that is classed as using it (whether anyone buys it or not). Same if you forward it to a mate. That feels entirely appropriate/reasonable and it would be good if City create a site like this in the future. As @phantom has said though, it is unlikely to happen until there are regular sell outs as until then it makes more commercial sense for City to focus on selling the seats that haven’t been sold yet rather then spend money reselling the ones that have already been sold.

The focus is on the South Stand. They are hopping that the following works: 1. Higher % price increase in the SS v other stands (to discourage purchase if not going to use it). 2. Even higher price increase for kids in the SS to discourage unused kids’ tickets there (can move to cheaper family stand). 3. No new season tickets in SS. 4. All of the above to free up tickets for POTD fans. Time will tell if that will work. Plus if the TV deal moves a lot of kick off times around, there may be more season tickets holders who can’t attend which may negate some of the above.

Nige was just commenting on the deconditioned point. Of course BT would have been told about the sacking before it was announced but 1. that’s a different point, 2. It would have been ridiculous if he wasn’t told and 3. there is no way that the decision to sack was anyone’s other than the Lansdowns.

Actually that points the finger at JL rather than BT as NP says that if JL had any issues re deconditioning he could have spoken to BT to understand the position.

Yes Gavin Marshall said they want to increase sales to just over 15k on the FBC podcast.

South Stand only available to those who already have a season ticket in the South Stand.

Not sure that I agree that his movement isn’t great - I think that aspect has looked quite positive (although team mates don’t always seem to be able to pick the pass to him). I don’t think he lacks desire. And he’s unlocked Knight in the sense that Knight can play deeper (and better) with Twine in the team. But yes he’s not been world beating by any stretch and he lacks physicality. For me it should come down the price he will cost (if Burnley want to sell him), whether we are likely to get anyone better/similar for that price, and whether if we go for Twine we can still afford to get a number 9 who will bring the physicality that others in the squad, including Twine, lack.

And possibly also linked to Twine - he wants him.

I particularly liked the bit where he said that we can talk about being ambitious (which is why he joined us) but we have to show that in terms of our actions re the squad in the summer. Over to you SL.

Pleased Hull are winning. If they see it out, they should be up for it v Ipswich at the weekend as play offs still on.

Not aware of any. Good to have a split though so that a broader range of fans can attend - imagine the uproar if the whole ground was sold to season ticket holders only. 15k season ticket holders and 8k POTD (home fans) feels like a reasonable balance.

We aren’t prioritising POTD though. As mentioned above, Marshall said we are hoping to sell slightly more season tickets for next season (just over 15k).

Agree. And some don’t come on board until half season tickets go on sale (some of the current 15k season ticket holders won’t have bought until December)

Oooo errr - I didn’t think they went that far!

Just got the answer to my own question by starting to listen to the FBC podcast with Gavin Marshall. He says they are hoping to increase season tickets slightly by selling a bit more than 15k.

Probably take place when FA cup replays would have taken place.

Of course we don’t know what the season ticket cap is next year either. They have been quite upfront about the fact there is a cap but unknown if this cap allows for more, same or less season ticket holders next year.