Lack of Action Man Posted January 25, 2015 Report Share Posted January 25, 2015 Just watched the so called expert analysis of our match today and suprise suprise west ham have been portrayed as world beaters and us as an ugly physical long ball side. What game were these pundits watching? Or is our football team that unfashionable that it is unacceptable to praise what was an outstanding team footballing effort today against a lacklustre, boring hammers team? Additionally, having gone into super fine detail regarding the Carroll possible handball, I believe that you can see the motion of the stripes on the ball change before Carroll heads it - no way it could've been given in real time, but another way of looking at how lucky they were today. Now I've got that off my chest, how awesome was stead versus Chelsea? Wow! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingswoodactor Posted January 25, 2015 Report Share Posted January 25, 2015 Just watched the so called expert analysis of our match today and suprise suprise west ham have been portrayed as world beaters and us as an ugly physical long ball side. What game were these pundits watching? Or is our football team that unfashionable that it is unacceptable to praise what was an outstanding team footballing effort today against a lacklustre, boring hammers team? Additionally, having gone into super fine detail regarding the Carroll possible handball, I believe that you can see the motion of the stripes on the ball change before Carroll heads it - no way it could've been given in real time, but another way of looking at how lucky they were today. Now I've got that off my chest, how awesome was stead versus Chelsea? Wow! I don't think they said that at all. If anything, they praised us for being able to mix it up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cityexile Posted January 25, 2015 Report Share Posted January 25, 2015 Thought they were positive about us than that to be honest. We were physical, but not long ball. Whenever a premiership side wins like that it will always be painted as, they rode the storm, settled the gsme down, then won, as if it was some great masterplan. If it had been a league game, it would have just been one of those where they defended well and did a bit of a smash and grapb on us. Just ran their way today,but as far as they are concerned it will be job done, which in their shoes is how exactly how I would feel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lack of Action Man Posted January 25, 2015 Author Report Share Posted January 25, 2015 I don't think they said that at all. If anything, they praised us for being able to mix it up. Parkinson was mildly complementary. Lawrenson said we were big and direct. Neville essentially said the same though I fell asleep half way through because he's just that dull... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonBristolian Posted January 25, 2015 Report Share Posted January 25, 2015 Parkinson was mildly complementary. Lawrenson said we were big and direct. Neville essentially said the same though I fell asleep half way through because he's just that dull... I didn't really read what they said that way. But the truth is that, for all the good football we played, our biggest threat today was the physical aerial one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lack of Action Man Posted January 25, 2015 Author Report Share Posted January 25, 2015 I didn't really read what they said that way. But the truth is that, for all the good football we played, our biggest threat today was the physical aerial one. I wouldn't agree to be honest with you. I thought our biggest threat came from the industry and energy of Joe Bryan and Luke Freeman who were both outstanding for their never say die attitude. Sure, we had chances early with Smith but as the game wore on I don't think our aerial Size posed much of a threat - we were definitely better when we had the ball at feet with quick short passing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonBristolian Posted January 25, 2015 Report Share Posted January 25, 2015 I wouldn't agree to be honest with you. I thought our biggest threat came from the industry and energy of Joe Bryan and Luke Freeman who were both outstanding for their never say die attitude. Sure, we had chances early with Smith but as the game wore on I don't think our aerial Size posed much of a threat - we were definitely better when we had the ball at feet with quick short passing. We definitely are. But today we had two headed chances cleared off the line and another late header just past the post whereas, great though Freeman and Bryan were, the absence of a pacey striker meant the quick short passing didn't actually produce much in the way of clear cut chances. I'm not saying that's par for the course for us but I reckon anyone who watched us today would have noticed the aerial threat first and foremost, even if they then added we played some good stuff on the ground too. Which is what the pundits seemed to do in the main. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slartibartfast Posted January 25, 2015 Report Share Posted January 25, 2015 Didn't see MOTD, but have just watched the whole game on replay and at HT Lineker & Co we very complimentary about us...eg...Excuse me, who are the Prem side? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhistleHappy Posted January 25, 2015 Report Share Posted January 25, 2015 Parkinson was mildly complementary. Lawrenson said we were big and direct. Neville essentially said the same though I fell asleep half way through because he's just that dull... Talking of Parkinson, anyone else wondering if the MOTD make-up lady might be a Chelsea fan? Parkinsons eye lash mascara -blimey, bit dark 'n heavy, reckon she'd have given him a big red nose if she couldve got away with it.. Almost clown like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roe Posted January 25, 2015 Report Share Posted January 25, 2015 In hindsight and if you're only watching the highlights, pretty much all of our chances were headers that Smith couldn't quite put away. If you watched the whole game, you'll see that the work of Korey Smith, Freeman, JET, Bryan, Little etc to set up those chances and get us in those positions was good football. Our passing was better than West Ham's was today imo, ultimately it means nothing because we just came up short but it was nice to see us compete at a level like that. In short, who gives a toss what Phil Neville thinks of us? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Posted January 26, 2015 Report Share Posted January 26, 2015 I thought Parkinson summed it up well when he said wagstaff is not a wing back. I've said this all year!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedYoshi Posted January 26, 2015 Report Share Posted January 26, 2015 Just ran their way today,but as far as they are concerned it will be job done, which in their shoes is how exactly how I would feel. Indeed. Much like us against Telford. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YorkshireSection Posted January 26, 2015 Report Share Posted January 26, 2015 I thought Parkinson summed it up well when he said wagstaff is not a wing back. I've said this all year!! His positioning for the goal was terrible, got caught ball watching instead of covering the space between goal and Sako. Not a dig at Fielding but a bigger keeper would have stopped that cross, (at 5-9" to 6-1" depending on which Internet site you read) he must be the smallest keeper in the game? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WolfOfWestStreet Posted January 26, 2015 Report Share Posted January 26, 2015 In this day and age we over analyse everything! to many stats, too much analysis, too many people having their say, too many pundits, too much football on TV, too many quotes and conferences. Relax people. City were great today, if you care what Phil Neville thinks about us then you really are very sad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 26, 2015 Report Share Posted January 26, 2015 Lawro has always had a problem with us right back to his HTV Sport days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WTFiGO!?! Posted January 26, 2015 Report Share Posted January 26, 2015 Thought they were positive about us than that to be honest. We were physical, but not long ball. Whenever a Premier League side wins like that it will always be painted as, they rode the storm, settled the gsme down, then won, as if it was some great masterplan. If it had been a league game, it would have just been one of those where they defended well and did a bit of a smash and grapb on us. Just ran their way today,but as far as they are concerned it will be job done, which in their shoes is how exactly how I would feel.They did ride the storm, settle us down and won it due to their superiority. Get it right, as SC said himself, we didn't score the necessary goal when on top to allow us to park the bus through tiredness and let them have a go at us. We looked knackered for a long period in the second half, whilst they brought on quality cavalry. As for MOTD, they were very complimentary to us in the re-run of the game, as was Sam Allardyce in the side he put out and his approach to the game. Nothing lost today, other than the game an our cup status of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WTFiGO!?! Posted January 26, 2015 Report Share Posted January 26, 2015 Lawro has always had a problem with us right back to his HTV Sport days.Lawro, bless him, was born under a grey cloud. I pity the miserable old bastard. During the Arab takeover at Man City I looked at their Internet forum 'Blue Moon'. They had a 'Lawro prediction league' set up which saw Man City in the bottom three. They were wholly sure that he had it in for them (they finished in reality 13th or something). Maybe he has it in for clubs called 'City' but I suspect more he's a depressive personality Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
havanatopia Posted January 26, 2015 Report Share Posted January 26, 2015 The only difference was that they had a gangling striker who is their best defender which stopped us putting it to bed before HT. Other than that I can see City competing against most Prem teams especially if we add a striker and another goalie; can we get a bye for the Championship round? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cider-manc Posted January 26, 2015 Report Share Posted January 26, 2015 Personally I couldn't believe how bad song was. I've been reading rave reviews all season and the guy plays for barca...to be honest he looked like the least likely player on the pitch to warrant playing at camp nou. Haven't watched motd yet but I take their analysis with a pinch of salt. I've watched games on sky and then watched motd portray the game completely differently (normally in favor of the bigger team). I guess it's difficult to show everything on a 5-10 min spot. You only have to read some of the complementary comments by wham fans to know we played really well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Port Said Red Posted January 26, 2015 Report Share Posted January 26, 2015 Just started to watch the whole game recording, first 20 minutes or so they have been very positive. Both Brotherton and Kilbane have called us a good footballing side several times, and before that the guys in the studio have said we play the game "the right way". As for Lawro's comments, I didn't hear them but there is a huge difference between being direct and being long ball. Joe Bryan has just had his chance and I didn't realise the defender got a touch on it which might have stopped it being a good ball in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhistleHappy Posted January 26, 2015 Report Share Posted January 26, 2015 Personally I couldn't believe how bad song was. I've been reading rave reviews all season and the guy plays for barca...to be honest he looked like the least likely player on the pitch to warrant playing at camp nou. Haven't watched motd yet but I take their analysis with a pinch of salt. I've watched games on sky and then watched motd portray the game completely differently (normally in favor of the bigger team). I guess it's difficult to show everything on a 5-10 min spot. You only have to read some of the complementary comments by wham fans to know we played really well. Agree West Hams Song was'nt impressive, but far worse to be broadcast live to the nation on MOTD yesterday was Bristol City's song. There we were, live on TV, in a high profile Cup-tie against one of the top Premieship sides currently in the country. What song were we singing? - Stand Up If You Hate The Gas ffs... Class by any standards, a 'sleeping giant' on the brink if a resurgence in our height profile match for quite some time and we're singing our hearts out about a local Non-League team... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted January 26, 2015 Report Share Posted January 26, 2015 Agree West Hams Song was'nt impressive, but far worse to be broadcast live to the nation on MOTD yesterday was Bristol City's song. There we were, live on TV, in a high profile Cup-tie against one of the top Premieship sides currently in the country. What song were we singing? - Stand Up If You Hate The Gas ffs... Class by any standards, a 'sleeping giant' on the brink if a resurgence in our height profile match for quite some time and we're singing our hearts out about a local Non-League team... What team doesn't sing songs about there rivals? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
And Its Smith Posted January 26, 2015 Report Share Posted January 26, 2015 Cannot agree with OP and knew MOTD pundits would get misconstrued as the words were coming out of their mouths. Direct doesn't mean long ball. You can have direct running and passing. And we are direct. We don't knock it around at the back at all and do look to get the ball forward, both on the ground and in the air. And we are big....Flint, JET, Smith, all big. I never understand why people seem to seek offence from pundits. Nobody 'has it in for us'. Not Neville, Lawrenson or anyone else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted January 26, 2015 Report Share Posted January 26, 2015 So that's the football league show and match of the day! sure we will get someone moaning about SKY on thurs. Are we the biggest moaners in England ffs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCFC_Dan Posted January 26, 2015 Report Share Posted January 26, 2015 Lawrenson described Bournemouth as direct as well. I haven't seen much of them lately but they were always a good passing side in the past. As others have mentioned, despite its connotations 'direct' doesn't necessarily mean the same as 'long ball'. It just means focused on getting the ball forward quickly with the intention of scoring goals. Many top sides are direct in this way but very few of them play like Watford or Wimbledon of the 80s. I thought the analysis was quite poor, though, with a disproportionate focus on West Ham interspersed with the occasional "Bristol are a good side" to provide what they obviously feel is balance but I felt was nonsense. Why not highlight why we're a good side by looking at Freeman's movement, or Korey Smith screening the defence, rather than just the fact that we have a big striker? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhistleHappy Posted January 26, 2015 Report Share Posted January 26, 2015 So that's the football league show and match of the day! sure we will get someone moaning about SKY on thurs. Are we the biggest moaners in England ffs? At least Jet should perform well in a Sky game....... He'll be in his element! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeh Posted January 26, 2015 Report Share Posted January 26, 2015 What team doesn't sing songs about there rivals? don't yeovil still sing about weymouth? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aizoon Posted January 26, 2015 Report Share Posted January 26, 2015 In hindsight and if you're only watching the highlights, pretty much all of our chances were headers that Smith couldn't quite put away. If you watched the whole game, you'll see that the work of Korey Smith, Freeman, JET, Bryan, Little etc to set up those chances and get us in those positions was good football. Our passing was better than West Ham's was today imo, ultimately it means nothing because we just came up short but it was nice to see us compete at a level like that. In short, who gives a toss what Phil Neville thinks of us? Phil Neville thinks? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aizoon Posted January 26, 2015 Report Share Posted January 26, 2015 So that's the football league show and match of the day! sure we will get someone moaning about SKY on thurs. Are we the biggest moaners in England ffs? Not while there's a single Sag left Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slartibartfast Posted January 26, 2015 Report Share Posted January 26, 2015 Very complimetary things written about City in big report in the Daily Fail . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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