Jurassic Posted March 31, 2017 Report Share Posted March 31, 2017 Assuming we manage to stay up (not a given) what do we have to look forward to next season? We have a squad of players well able to hold their own in The Championship but as far as coaching goes this is where we fail. So what is the solution? SL can't be faulted for his commitment to BCFC but he clearly has no idea about football and should leave that side well alone. MA.....the jury is still out. LJ has been consistently bad, even stupidly so, all season. So what next?????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Army 75 Posted March 31, 2017 Report Share Posted March 31, 2017 No idea . But let's get this season out the way first . Can't wait Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wendyredredrobin Posted March 31, 2017 Report Share Posted March 31, 2017 With the same head coach, how could you expect a different outcome to this season? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CotswoldRed Posted March 31, 2017 Report Share Posted March 31, 2017 Mediocrity at best if we stay up with LJ. More likely a proper struggle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cidered abroad Posted March 31, 2017 Report Share Posted March 31, 2017 As a counter assumption. What if we are relegated? One win, however good it was, plus the last minute winner at Wigan, does not mean we have turned the corner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesBCFC Posted March 31, 2017 Report Share Posted March 31, 2017 2 minutes ago, cidered abroad said: As a counter assumption. What if we are relegated? One win, however good it was, plus the last minute winner at Wigan, does not mean we have turned the corner. It does not, but 2 relegation spots are as good as gone. For the remaining one there are 4 sides trying to stay up, and one of those have less points than us, while the others have to overcome an 8 and 11 goal difference deficit compared to us. Yes, we could go down, but rather than as you try and swing it, we actually have the most favourable chance of staying up out of the sides scrapping it out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bar BS3 Posted March 31, 2017 Report Share Posted March 31, 2017 9 minutes ago, cidered abroad said: As a counter assumption. What if we are relegated? One win, however good it was, plus the last minute winner at Wigan, does not mean we have turned the corner. I think most teams would regard 8 points from the last 4 games as grounds for hoping that a corner has been turned, however much that doesn't fit with your agenda. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cidered abroad Posted March 31, 2017 Report Share Posted March 31, 2017 16 minutes ago, JamesBCFC said: It does not, but 2 relegation spots are as good as gone. For the remaining one there are 4 sides trying to stay up, and one of those have less points than us, while the others have to overcome an 8 and 11 goal difference deficit compared to us. Yes, we could go down, but rather than as you try and swing it, we actually have the most favourable chance of staying up out of the sides scrapping it out. Why do you believe that we have the most favourable chance of staying up? Alright, we've just won two on the bounce, one with a scrappy win at Wigan and the second a great win against Huddersfield. But what if our away form returns to normal at Brentford and then Wolves, one of our eternal nemesis teams, win their third away win in a row? I'm not being pessimistic, just realistic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cidered abroad Posted March 31, 2017 Report Share Posted March 31, 2017 9 minutes ago, Bar BS3 said: I think most teams would regard 8 points from the last 4 games as grounds for hoping that a corner has been turned, however much that doesn't fit with your agenda. I don't have an agenda. I desperately want us to stay up but the longevity of my support of city tells me that if our league status is saveable, this Club has a horrible habit of cocking it up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bar BS3 Posted March 31, 2017 Report Share Posted March 31, 2017 Just now, cidered abroad said: I don't have an agenda. I desperatly ant us to stay up but the longevity of my support of city tells me that if our league status is saveable, this Club has a horrible habit of cocking it up. I see where you are coming from..! Have faith. Hopefully we've cracked it..!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesBCFC Posted March 31, 2017 Report Share Posted March 31, 2017 Just now, cidered abroad said: Why do you believe that we have the most favourable chance of staying up? Alright, we've just won two on the bounce, one with a s crappy win at Wigan and the second a great win against Huddersfield. But what if our away form returns to normal at Brentford and than Wolves, one of our eternal nemesis teams, win their third away win in a row? I'm not being pessimistic, just realistic. I literally just told you why we have the most favourable chance. We are in the best position out of the 4 times likely to go down, first by having more points than Blackburn, then by having a vastly better goal difference than Burton and Forest. We also have an easier run-in than Burton, and Blackburn, so a greater chance of picking up more points then them there. Yes, you are a pessimist, not a realist, you are choosing to look at everything in the worst possible way, that is not being realistic, that is being pessimistic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesBCFC Posted March 31, 2017 Report Share Posted March 31, 2017 2 minutes ago, cidered abroad said: I don't have an agenda. I desperately want us to stay up but the longevity of my support of city tells me that if our league status is saveable, this Club has a horrible habit of cocking it up. utter crap with regards to recent seasons. 2-3 seasons before our last relegation and last year all forgotten? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JHAGa Posted March 31, 2017 Report Share Posted March 31, 2017 Not consistently bad. LJ did a good job from August-October and in March, That's 4 out of the 7 months the season has been going. I still believe in LJ as a coach and feel like our squad will only improve due to the age factor and the whole set-up will benefit from coming through the losing run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unan Posted March 31, 2017 Report Share Posted March 31, 2017 Gas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bar BS3 Posted March 31, 2017 Report Share Posted March 31, 2017 7 minutes ago, JHAGa said: Not consistently bad. LJ did a good job from August-October and in March, That's 4 out of the 7 months the season has been going. I still believe in LJ as a coach and feel like our squad will only improve due to the age factor and the whole set-up will benefit from coming through the losing run. Let's not forget the impressive 2nd half to last season either. I can understand people not being happy between Oct-Feb, but how can some people not see the flip side of that period, during the rest of LJ tenure..?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JHAGa Posted March 31, 2017 Report Share Posted March 31, 2017 1 minute ago, Bar BS3 said: Let's not forget the impressive 2nd half to last season either. I can understand people not being happy between Oct-Feb, but how can some people not see the flip side of that period, during the rest of LJ tenure..?! They've made up their minds and don't like to see signs of being proven wrong in recent weeks for whatever reason, so continue their blatant agendas. Very sad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby kellard hero Posted March 31, 2017 Report Share Posted March 31, 2017 Very true Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inactive user Posted March 31, 2017 Report Share Posted March 31, 2017 We have a squad bloated full of mediocrity. We're going down next season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bar BS3 Posted March 31, 2017 Report Share Posted March 31, 2017 43 minutes ago, Rednwhiterob said: We have a squad bloated full of mediocrity. We're going down next season. That's the spirit!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mtimmy11 Posted March 31, 2017 Report Share Posted March 31, 2017 1 hour ago, JHAGa said: Not consistently bad. LJ did a good job from August-October and in March, That's 4 out of the 7 months the season has been going. I still believe in LJ as a coach and feel like our squad will only improve due to the age factor and the whole set-up will benefit from coming through the losing run. cheers steve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 31, 2017 Report Share Posted March 31, 2017 1 hour ago, JHAGa said: Not consistently bad. LJ did a good job from August-October and in March, That's 4 out of the 7 months the season has been going. I still believe in LJ as a coach and feel like our squad will only improve due to the age factor and the whole set-up will benefit from coming through the losing run. and who will be carrying Wilbs and Abs mantle next season, because it looks like they may have just saved our arses this season, but that has still to be confirmed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 31, 2017 Report Share Posted March 31, 2017 1 hour ago, JHAGa said: They've made up their minds and don't like to see signs of being proven wrong in recent weeks for whatever reason, so continue their blatant agendas. Very sad. a few weeks does not make a good season, nor does the prayers that there just maybe 3 worse teams than us in this div. We have chucked our advantage away before this season and could yet do it again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JHAGa Posted March 31, 2017 Report Share Posted March 31, 2017 4 minutes ago, glos old boy said: a few weeks does not make a good season, nor does the prayers that there just maybe 3 worse teams than us in this div. We have chucked our advantage away before this season and could yet do it again. I haven't at any point said it's been a good season. But I won't completely rule LJ out like some. Let's hope we find replacements for Abraham and Wilbs (Djuric?). We certainly left LJ in the lurch by not replacing Kodjia, so hopefully the same mistakes won't be repeated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottishRed Posted March 31, 2017 Report Share Posted March 31, 2017 1 hour ago, Bar BS3 said: Let's not forget the impressive 2nd half to last season either. I can understand people not being happy between Oct-Feb, but how can some people not see the flip side of that period, during the rest of LJ tenure..?! Let's not count any chickens yet . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesBCFC Posted March 31, 2017 Report Share Posted March 31, 2017 7 minutes ago, ScottishRed said: Let's not count any chickens yet . in what sense is looking the past positives (rather than exclusively looking at the negative ones) counting chickens? BS3 hasn't made any sort of bold prediction in that post, just said to look at the overall results of LJ here, rather than focusing on the negative spell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reformed_red Posted March 31, 2017 Report Share Posted March 31, 2017 16 minutes ago, JHAGa said: Let's hope we find replacements for Abraham and Wilbs (Djuric?). We certainly left LJ in the lurch by not replacing Kodjia, so hopefully the same mistakes won't be repeated. Don't you mean something more along the lines of...we certainly left LJ in the lurch by undertaking and unprecedented amount of incoming transfer activity that the club has seen in more than recent years, both in the summer and January transfer windows....? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottishRed Posted March 31, 2017 Report Share Posted March 31, 2017 3 minutes ago, JHAGa said: I haven't at any point said it's been a good season. But I won't completely rule LJ out like some. Let's hope we find replacements for Abraham and Wilbs (Djuric?). We certainly left LJ in the lurch by not replacing Kodjia, so hopefully the same mistakes won't be repeated. So it's Friday night.... " We certainly left LJ in the lurch by not replacing Kodjia" mmm! Really ? That young lad that wears the number 9 shirt has done OK!! The highest scoring teenager ever in this league - Tammy is going to be a superstar - but it is utterly SHAMEFUL that we are in the position we are in with him in the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobBobSuperBob Posted March 31, 2017 Report Share Posted March 31, 2017 31 minutes ago, JHAGa said: I haven't at any point said it's been a good season. But I won't completely rule LJ out like some. Let's hope we find replacements for Abraham and Wilbs (Djuric?). We certainly left LJ in the lurch by not replacing Kodjia, so hopefully the same mistakes won't be repeated. You still using this ? As I've pointed out before as LJ has stated himself the decision whether to keep or sell JK was his and ashtons - SL left it to them So if he was sold without a replacement blame those two If we had been half professional we would have agreed to sell JK on the proviso we acquired a replacement first , if that's what we wanted oh yes I forgot - you claim SL and LJ both lied about this ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downendcity Posted March 31, 2017 Report Share Posted March 31, 2017 1 hour ago, Rednwhiterob said: We have a squad forum bloated full of mediocrity negativity. We're They think we are going down next season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottishRed Posted March 31, 2017 Report Share Posted March 31, 2017 10 minutes ago, JamesBCFC said: in what sense is looking the past positives (rather than exclusively looking at the negative ones) counting chickens? BS3 hasn't made any sort of bold prediction in that post, just said to look at the overall results of LJ here, rather than focusing on the negative spell James, with all respect, there is still a reasonable chance that we may may be relegated. I believe that this situation should never have even been closely possible, but that is where we are. It is utterly clear to anyone that understands the game that the current Head Coach should be nowhere near a Championship team. The reason he is in that position is subject to many opinions, however the facts are clear - maybe one day he will be able to do a job at this level, now is not that time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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