EnderMB Posted June 19, 2017 Report Share Posted June 19, 2017 29 minutes ago, Mtimmy11 said: I agree with most of this but I wish people would show me where Lee Johnson has shown potential and who gave him the title young and TALENTED he just knows the right people.If anything dopey Darrell has shown us what a young and talented manager is For me, he's shown potential in bringing Tammy Abraham in, and for a good start to the season. Sure, he's not exactly world-class, and I think a lot of people believe he has potential because Lansdown has said he has potential, but I think he's shown enough to keep his job for now. As I mentioned here (or elsewhere, I forget) he's had his transfer windows and now he can consider this "his" squad. If he's willing to commit himself to a mid-table finish this season then I think he deserves the sack if we're short of that expectation. If we suffer, then ultimately it's an indication that the board has failed as much as the manager. They have built a system that isn't sustainable in the Championship. Over the space of a decade, our academy will have produced one player capable of playing for us in the Championship, which should he considered a failure. While we've sold others at a decent rate, we've also not adequately replaced in many positions, so again a failure. Finally, our older signings have been solid, but we need more experience to guide the youth, and if we don't get in experience with enough to offer at Championship level, we've failed the final pillar relating to on-pitch activity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamsober Posted June 19, 2017 Report Share Posted June 19, 2017 3 hours ago, Mtimmy11 said: I agree with most of this but I wish people would show me where Lee Johnson has shown potential and who gave him the title young and TALENTED he just knows the right people.If anything dopey Darrell has shown us what a young and talented manager is so why is he still at rovers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Judda Posted June 19, 2017 Report Share Posted June 19, 2017 Fortunately I expect no football players read the negative bull on this site so LJ won't put them off at all.... same as fans buying season tickets - not put off by the bull either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kodjias Wrist Posted June 19, 2017 Report Share Posted June 19, 2017 4 hours ago, Mtimmy11 said: I agree with most of this but I wish people would show me where Lee Johnson has shown potential and who gave him the title young and TALENTED he just knows the right people.If anything dopey Darrell has shown us what a young and talented manager is Well he turned it around towards the end when I know many of us thought we were ******. He also is still young and although us and fans at former clubs dont rate him, there seems to be a lot of respect for him on other fan forums and pundits for what its worth.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mtimmy11 Posted June 19, 2017 Report Share Posted June 19, 2017 1 hour ago, Kodjias Wrist said: Well he turned it around towards the end when I know many of us thought we were ******. He also is still young and although us and fans at former clubs dont rate him, there seems to be a lot of respect for him on other fan forums and pundits for what its worth.... We escaped the drop by 3 points and I have not met a rival fan who rates him in fact chatting to a Cardiff,Birmingham and Preston fans on holiday they all thought with Landsdowns money he nothing but a joke Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mtimmy11 Posted June 19, 2017 Report Share Posted June 19, 2017 1 hour ago, Judda said: Fortunately I expect no football players read the negative bull on this site so LJ won't put them off at all.... same as fans buying season tickets - not put off by the bull either. I was Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Red Rich Posted June 19, 2017 Report Share Posted June 19, 2017 Lj will prove himself next season. I truely believe he will secure us our championship status with 2 games to go. #hero Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Natchfever Posted June 20, 2017 Report Share Posted June 20, 2017 12 hours ago, iamsober said: so why is he still at rovers? He turned down Leeds if I recall. Bet he wishes he didn't now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ashton_fan Posted June 20, 2017 Report Share Posted June 20, 2017 T^he problem may be our policy of recruiting players 'with potential' last summer. It worked for Tammy but for the players who signed permanent not so good, eg Taylor Moore hardly had any games now out of the England team, Engvall hardly had a game while others that did get in the team (O'Dowda, Paterson, Brownhill) probably didn't get as many appearances as they were expecting. We'll still be able to get loans if we guarantee a certain number of games but others may be put off by looking at what happened last season. We're in a different situation this summer since we now have a large squad which we didn't have before. I'd expect the youngsters we signed last summer to be given their chance this year which means any 'with potential' we sign now will be lower down the pecking order. There's no need to panic as we only need 2 or 3, we signed quite a few in January who are still feeling their way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Natchfever Posted June 20, 2017 Report Share Posted June 20, 2017 On 2017-6-16 at 19:28, tinman85 said: According to a tweet from Alan Nixon we are struggling with our summer transfer targets..I can't help but think it is because of the poor season we had and LJ's record and status. The sort of players we should be seeking to recruit whether permanntly or on loan will have plenty of options. When you consider where we finished last season I personally think we are down the pecking order whilst we have an inexperienced manager who has delivered nothing in the game, and aren't throwing money around to compete with all those on parachute payments.. Whether Nixon knows jackshit about BCFC targets though I have no idea, but he might well be itk for the northerners we may be after. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristol Rob Posted June 20, 2017 Report Share Posted June 20, 2017 22 hours ago, Mtimmy11 said: I agree with most of this but I wish people would show me where Lee Johnson has shown potential and who gave him the title young and TALENTED he just knows the right people.If anything dopey Darrell has shown us what a young and talented manager is So of LJ and Dopey; which of the two have take their clubs in to the conference? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mtimmy11 Posted June 20, 2017 Report Share Posted June 20, 2017 I think you will find both john ward and higgs were to blame for that.which one signed 19 players and still took there club on there longest losing run and then celebrated on the last game of the season like he won the title.which one shows emotion and which one runs down the tunnel when they lose.I bet you still believe we will be in Europe in 30 months .the guys taking the piss Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristol Rob Posted June 20, 2017 Report Share Posted June 20, 2017 12 minutes ago, Thatch35 said: Beautifully put. Everything summed up nicely, but scares the crap out of me thinking about the next season.....LJ in charge...run, run away! Will running away require more pacey players? I don't was a Gus Cesar offside trap again when clearly he hadn't been briefed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesBCFC Posted June 20, 2017 Report Share Posted June 20, 2017 35 minutes ago, Mtimmy11 said: I think you will find both john ward and higgs were to blame for that.which one signed 19 players and still took there club on there longest losing run and then celebrated on the last game of the season like he won the title.which one shows emotion and which one runs down the tunnel when they lose.I bet you still believe we will be in Europe in 30 months .the guys taking the piss No he didnt. Did you never get told not to tell lies? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AppyDAZE Posted June 20, 2017 Report Share Posted June 20, 2017 All the knocking LJ for going on this longest losing run stuff... I seem to remember Danny Wilson (generally a popular city manager with the fans) going on an amazing WINNING run.. but the guy brought us NO promotion . and that from the 3rd tier. So, cant really see the point of anyone needing to keep bringing up this now pointless fact. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AppyDAZE Posted June 20, 2017 Report Share Posted June 20, 2017 22 hours ago, Big Red Rich said: Lj will prove himself next season. I truely believe he will secure us our championship status with 2 games to go. #hero I truly believe that you will learn how to spell the word truly next season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesBCFC Posted June 20, 2017 Report Share Posted June 20, 2017 15 minutes ago, AppyDAZE said: All the knocking LJ for going on this longest losing run stuff... I seem to remember Danny Wilson (generally a popular city manager with the fans) going on an amazing WINNING run.. but the guy brought us NO promotion . and that from the 3rd tier. So, cant really see the point of anyone needing to keep bringing up this now pointless fact. In theory you could have a 20 game losing run and still go up in the playoffs, maybe even sneak into the automatics. Equally we could go the entire season unbeaten and get relegated with 46 points. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AppyDAZE Posted June 20, 2017 Report Share Posted June 20, 2017 Just now, JamesBCFC said: In theory you could have a 20 game losing run and still go up in the playoffs, maybe even sneak into the automatics. Equally we could go the entire season unbeaten and get relegated with 46 points.Innit. i'm with you. i had major doubts at times about LJ.. but really, really cannot see the point in going over what has happened Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mtimmy11 Posted June 21, 2017 Report Share Posted June 21, 2017 9 hours ago, JamesBCFC said: No he didnt. Did you never get told not to tell lies? So he was not dancing on the stage at the end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesBCFC Posted June 21, 2017 Report Share Posted June 21, 2017 6 hours ago, Mtimmy11 said: So he was not dancing on the stage at the end. He bounced for a couple of seconds when the hundreds of city fans there were singing "Johnson says bounce around the ground" Literally just having a bit of fun with the crowd, following a fan led chant and nothing like "celebrating like he won the title" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mtimmy11 Posted June 21, 2017 Report Share Posted June 21, 2017 4 minutes ago, JamesBCFC said: He bounced for a couple of seconds when the hundreds of city fans there were singing "Johnson says bounce around the ground" Literally just having a bit of fun with the crowd, following a fan led chant and nothing like "celebrating like he won the title" Are you sure they were saying bounce around the ground or #### ### out the ground Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeh Posted June 21, 2017 Report Share Posted June 21, 2017 17 hours ago, Mtimmy11 said: I think you will find both john ward and higgs were to blame for that.which one signed 19 players and still took there club on there longest losing run and then celebrated on the last game of the season like he won the title.which one shows emotion and which one runs down the tunnel when they lose.I bet you still believe we will be in Europe in 30 months .the guys taking the piss John Ward had left, Clark took them to the conference thats a fact Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nogbad the Bad Posted June 21, 2017 Report Share Posted June 21, 2017 2 hours ago, JamesBCFC said: He bounced for a couple of seconds when the hundreds of city fans there were singing "Johnson says bounce around the ground" Literally just having a bit of fun with the crowd, following a fan led chant and nothing like "celebrating like he won the title" Well, I was there with the hundreds of assembled City fans and I doubt more than 6-10 at most of the more drunken ones started or joined in that chant. Most fans were completely disinterested and there were some boos. 'Hundreds singing for LJ to bounce' - no chance, and his response to the inebriated few was desperately embarrassing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesBCFC Posted June 21, 2017 Report Share Posted June 21, 2017 3 hours ago, Nogbad the Bad said: Well, I was there with the hundreds of assembled City fans and I doubt more than 6-10 at most of the more drunken ones started or joined in that chant. Most fans were completely disinterested and there were some boos. 'Hundreds singing for LJ to bounce' - no chance, and his response to the inebriated few was desperately embarrassing. I was there also, the vast majority were singing it, though many appeared to be less than fully behind it and more joining in for the sake of it. Any claim to the contrary is revisionism, pure and simple. If anything you have swapped the case, there were a few boos, but only from a handful of people, whilst most were singing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeh Posted June 28, 2017 Report Share Posted June 28, 2017 I think the last 2 days puts this thread to bed, we are attractive with johnson in charge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downendcity Posted June 28, 2017 Report Share Posted June 28, 2017 Just now, Monkeh said: I think the last 2 days puts this thread to bed, we are attractive with johnson in charge Think you are being a bit optimistic there Monkey! Give it time - just give it time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted June 28, 2017 Report Share Posted June 28, 2017 What it does do is put even more pressure on him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeh Posted June 28, 2017 Report Share Posted June 28, 2017 18 minutes ago, Super said: What it does do is put even more pressure on him. he has no excuse, this is HIS squad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phileas Fogg Posted June 28, 2017 Report Share Posted June 28, 2017 38 minutes ago, Monkeh said: I think the last 2 days puts this thread to bed, we are attractive with johnson in charge The caveat, not that I necessarily believe it, is that we've only signed foreign players who are unaware of LJ being an undesirable coach to work for.. After last season, this idea will stick around until we sign a few more genuinely established domestic players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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