Nomad Posted September 7, 2017 Report Share Posted September 7, 2017 From next season, the window will close at 17:00 BST on the Thursday before the Premier League season begins. Anyone think the football league will follow suit? If so will it be the same time as the Prem or the Thursday before the start of the football league start? Personally I've never liked the season starting and business still being done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Army 75 Posted September 7, 2017 Report Share Posted September 7, 2017 5 minutes ago, Nomad said: From next season, the window will close at 17:00 BST on the Thursday before the Premier League season begins. Anyone think the football league will follow suit? If so will it be the same time as the Prem or the Thursday before the start of the football league start? Personally I've never liked the season starting and business still being done. Agree. I think teams abroad will still be able to buy players in England when our window closes. Only downside. I hope the football league follows suit . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoystonFoote'snephew Posted September 7, 2017 Report Share Posted September 7, 2017 I think so. There is a clear growing movement towards closing the window before the season starts, and I expect City to vote in favour of such a move. Personally, I would be happy for it to happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Isewater Posted September 7, 2017 Report Share Posted September 7, 2017 So long as clubs can't transfer out players to other countries after the window closes in England seems a good idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cunnyfunt Posted September 7, 2017 Report Share Posted September 7, 2017 Watch now.. a couple of injuries to key players after the season starts and the managers will be crying out for the previous window to get cover in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lrrr Posted September 7, 2017 Report Share Posted September 7, 2017 Managers will then complain saying we had very good offers for our players but couldn't accept as we couldn't get a replacement in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Up The City! Posted September 7, 2017 Report Share Posted September 7, 2017 They are just screwing themselves over surely? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jin Posted September 7, 2017 Report Share Posted September 7, 2017 Unless European leagues etc. follow suit then teams in the prem are at a disadvantage. If the Football League do the same then our recent reputation of buying abroad will become more difficult to an extent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lrrr Posted September 7, 2017 Report Share Posted September 7, 2017 Seen someone point out its also going to be hard doing this for a first time in a world cup year, lots of players away and not around during pre-season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledAjax Posted September 7, 2017 Report Share Posted September 7, 2017 6 minutes ago, hodge said: Seen someone point out its also going to be hard doing this for a first time in a world cup year, lots of players away and not around during pre-season. The English players won't be away for too long. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lrrr Posted September 7, 2017 Report Share Posted September 7, 2017 2 minutes ago, ExiledAjax said: The English players won't be away for too long. English players play in the premier league? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carey 6 Posted September 7, 2017 Report Share Posted September 7, 2017 Whilst this is a good idea in theory, until they had an agreement with the rest of Europe on it, it is stupid. Believe the managers/owners biggest gripe was players wanting to leave once the seasons started and being unsettled by the buying team. This changes nothing in that sense, once the window shuts and Premier league sides can no longer sign players, they can still lose them, it just makes them impossible to replace & they'll have to wait until January to do so. Players will still be angling for a move until the buying clubs window is shut. Peter Coates (Stoke chairman) was just on Talksport saying the Prem sides will just refuse to do business after that date, well that's all well and good until a club from elsewhere in Europe triggers a release clause and then they're f***** I also noticed 5 of the 20 clubs voted against these proposals. Wouldn't surprise me if these 5 clubs were Man U, Liverpool, Arsenal etc, whos players are more likely to be poached by the likes of Barca/Real Madrid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nomad Posted September 7, 2017 Author Report Share Posted September 7, 2017 1 hour ago, Major Isewater said: So long as clubs can't transfer out players to other countries after the window closes in England seems a good idea. They can Major. Until the deadline day in Europe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted September 7, 2017 Report Share Posted September 7, 2017 Not likely to affect us....... actually it will as we won't be able to bring anyone in from the Prem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
50cal Posted September 7, 2017 Report Share Posted September 7, 2017 If the transfer window had closed this year at the start of the season then Aden Flint would have probably not been affected by the tranfer speculation the club wouldn't have to wrap him in cotton wool and payed his wages in full for 3 weeks without him playing and we would have a squad fully committed to the cause.... I understand that there are pro's and Con's to the argument. I for one am happy that clubs have voted for the transfer window to close at the start of the season. Fans up and down the country pay a lot of money to see the club's best players playing for their respective teams from the start of the season not 6 weeks in (Sanchez at Arsenal) , (Coutinho at Liverpool) hopefully the decision taken will encourage other leagues around Europe to follow suit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pongo88 Posted September 7, 2017 Report Share Posted September 7, 2017 A much better solution would be for UEFA to scrap the transfer widow completely. Transfers used to run smoothly throughout the season, with only a slight rush before the March deadline for signings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bar BS3 Posted September 7, 2017 Report Share Posted September 7, 2017 This is likely to increase the market value of lower league players, especially Championship, even further. If after the start of the season, Championship clubs can't turn to fringe/youth premier league players, this in demand from elsewhere will surely cost more..? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meh Posted September 7, 2017 Report Share Posted September 7, 2017 Would loans end on the same date or have an extension? Might be good for lower league teams if there was another 2 weeks for loans - might tempt some more quality our way as Prem teams offload some fringe players for game experience Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cunnyfunt Posted September 7, 2017 Report Share Posted September 7, 2017 2 hours ago, hodge said: Seen someone point out its also going to be hard doing this for a first time in a world cup year, lots of players away and not around during pre-season. Very little time to get business done. Should bring mayhem to the Prem clubs scrambling around trying to get deals done. Many of them rushed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanterne Rouge Posted September 7, 2017 Report Share Posted September 7, 2017 2 hours ago, Super said: Not likely to affect us....... actually it will as we won't be able to bring anyone in from the Prem. We would though I guess. If the league window goes on beyond the prem one then we could take players from them but couldn`t sell anyone to them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lrrr Posted September 7, 2017 Report Share Posted September 7, 2017 34 minutes ago, Red Right Hand said: We would though I guess. If the league window goes on beyond the prem one then we could take players from them but couldn`t sell anyone to them. Yeah, just like teams abroad can buy players from the prem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taz Posted September 8, 2017 Report Share Posted September 8, 2017 I thought that one of the arguments they were using is that it unsettles players (poor darlings), and disrupts the squad and preparation? Let's take the Couthino as an example (biggest one of the window). Prem window closes before the season starts, whereas the Spanish window doesn't close until the end of August. How does the Barcelona interest in said player, which could carry on until the end of August, have any relation to when the Prem window closes? If he's going to be unsettled, he's going to be unsettled. Just means that Barcelona can still buy him and that Liverpool cant replace until the next window. Personally I think that the Premiership clubs have decided to do this, in the hope that everyone else will follow suit and "fall in line". Actually every other club around the world, including the rest of England, will be the only ones to benefit, as it leaves clubs like us the chance to loan the players that haven't started the season at their Prem clubs. Bewildered by this one I must admit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nongazeuse Posted September 8, 2017 Report Share Posted September 8, 2017 20 hours ago, pongo88 said: A much better solution would be for UEFA to scrap the transfer widow completely. Transfers used to run smoothly throughout the season, with only a slight rush before the March deadline for signings. Is a Transfer Widow the wife of a football agent at certain times of the season? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inactive user Posted September 8, 2017 Report Share Posted September 8, 2017 You'd think there's only one division in English football the way this is being covered. How can the PL make a unilateral decision without having alignment with the FL? It's nuts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedM Posted September 8, 2017 Report Share Posted September 8, 2017 I understand their reasoning, but what about January, the players play all through that? Or are they looking for a mid winter break and that's when transfers will be done. That wouldn't surprise me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoystonFoote'snephew Posted September 8, 2017 Report Share Posted September 8, 2017 Of the big European leagues, I expect the German Bundesliga to follow The Premiership lead, and possibly the Spanish Liga. The italian series A may wish to stick with the present system, as perhaps will the smaller leagues, but I will watch with interest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe jordans teeth Posted September 8, 2017 Report Share Posted September 8, 2017 5 hours ago, Taz said: I thought that one of the arguments they were using is that it unsettles players (poor darlings), and disrupts the squad and preparation? Let's take the Couthino as an example (biggest one of the window). Prem window closes before the season starts, whereas the Spanish window doesn't close until the end of August. How does the Barcelona interest in said player, which could carry on until the end of August, have any relation to when the Prem window closes? If he's going to be unsettled, he's going to be unsettled. Just means that Barcelona can still buy him and that Liverpool cant replace until the next window. Personally I think that the Premiership clubs have decided to do this, in the hope that everyone else will follow suit and "fall in line". Actually every other club around the world, including the rest of England, will be the only ones to benefit, as it leaves clubs like us the chance to loan the players that haven't started the season at their Prem clubs. Bewildered by this one I must admit. Think this window has shown that it makes perfect sense,with the tv money our clubs get they can afford to turn down big bids now and to hell with the player having his head turned. Imagine the transfer fees required to get a player out of a English club once our window is closed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted September 8, 2017 Report Share Posted September 8, 2017 The disruption point, though technically able to hold the player- a stance I agree with, you would have 2-3 weeks of agitating and disruption if a player wanted out, during the season. That would change dynamics a bit. In fact of the other 4 big Leagues other than England- France, Germany, Italy all seem favourable. It's a double edged sword also- less time to strengthen which gives foreign clubs less time than they currently would have to when it comes to resisting bids from PL clubs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe jordans teeth Posted September 8, 2017 Report Share Posted September 8, 2017 4 hours ago, Rednwhiterob said: You'd think there's only one division in English football the way this is being covered. How can the PL make a unilateral decision without having alignment with the FL? It's nuts. The Fl have a planned meeting and no doubt will do the same,the old chestnut of a team getting promoted through the playoffs not having enough time to do their dealings may come a reality tho Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted September 9, 2017 Report Share Posted September 9, 2017 18 hours ago, joe jordans teeth said: Think this window has shown that it makes perfect sense,with the tv money our clubs get they can afford to turn down big bids now and to hell with the player having his head turned. Imagine the transfer fees required to get a player out of a English club once our window is closed You pretty much said what I would've. I do think there has been a slight shift away from player power, not huge, but a bit...and you are right that if a manager sets his squad up for the start of the season, unless he has stockpiled, it's gonna take an exaggerated offer to sell a player. People worried about the time between end of World Cup and start of season. - Rule 1 don't buy a player based on his performance at a summer tournanent - Rule 2 don't buy a player based on his performance at a summer tournanent I would like to see some rework of the loan rules. - No 'in-division' loans unless full terms of player's contract are fulfilled, e.g. None of this paying 50% of wages. - shorter loans possible, e.g. One month, 3 months, but a limit on the amount at any one time, and a limit overall, possibly a limit on the total months worth of loans, e.g. 24 months, so you can have 2 players on full season, or 8 on 3 months, or something like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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