Maggersno1Fan Posted March 10, 2018 Report Share Posted March 10, 2018 15 minutes ago, RedLionLad said: There's protesting and there's being a brain dead ****......... All been there after a few lines & a sing song Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taz Posted March 10, 2018 Report Share Posted March 10, 2018 12 minutes ago, RedRaw said: Christ, it’s Iain Dowie’s uglier brother That's one hell of an insult, ouch! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CotswoldRed Posted March 10, 2018 Report Share Posted March 10, 2018 4 minutes ago, poland_exile said: maybe wrong, maybe right, I don't know - but an effective stand must be made against the greed that is wrecking the game. Sad state of affairs to see one of the grand old ladies of the english game being murdered by its board. Could happen to any club. True. If it was based on principle though, they'd make a stand whether they were in the top 3 or bottom 3. This is because they are losing and can't stomach it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poland_exile Posted March 10, 2018 Report Share Posted March 10, 2018 7 minutes ago, CotswoldRed said: True. If it was based on principle though, they'd make a stand whether they were in the top 3 or bottom 3. This is because they are losing and can't stomach it. I'm not sure - i'm led to believe this has been festering for a fair while, and while the couple of west ham I know are hardly representative of an entire fan base it seems like there's been some very ugly rumblings for quite some time (a number, for instance, have stopped going entirely). Either way, I'm glad we're not in there position! And as for them being bad losers, just look at this message board - we're in the top half of the table, have enjoyed a historic cup run that will live for the rest of our lives, and this page is capsizing under the number of people throwing tantrums! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe jordans teeth Posted March 10, 2018 Report Share Posted March 10, 2018 3 minutes ago, poland_exile said: I'm not sure - i'm led to believe this has been festering for a fair while, and while the couple of west ham I know are hardly representative of an entire fan base it seems like there's been some very ugly rumblings for quite some time (a number, for instance, have stopped going entirely). Either way, I'm glad we're not in there position! So if they were top 4 and heading towards the champions league and won 3 nil today they would of still done it,their problem of moving grounds would be long gone trust me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poland_exile Posted March 10, 2018 Report Share Posted March 10, 2018 2 minutes ago, joe jordans teeth said: So if they were top 4 and heading towards the champions league and won 3 nil today they would of still done it,their problem of moving grounds would be long gone trust me as I mention, the west ham i know aren't representative of a whole fan base - however, i know a few who have completely stopped going (one's even started going to the gas!), and these are by no means unique examples. The football pages on facebook are filled with West Ham who have made the ultimate sacrifice and jacked in watching the team they love. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe jordans teeth Posted March 10, 2018 Report Share Posted March 10, 2018 7 minutes ago, poland_exile said: as I mention, the west ham i know aren't representative of a whole fan base - however, i know a few who have completely stopped going (one's even started going to the gas!), and these are by no means unique examples. The football pages on facebook are filled with West Ham who have made the ultimate sacrifice and jacked in watching the team they love. More fool them then and if it’s Facebook I would take it with a pinch of salt.I felt for Coventry fans and the like being completely shafted so I’m sorry if my heart doesn’t bleed for the hard done by fans of West Ham Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazooka Joe Posted March 10, 2018 Report Share Posted March 10, 2018 37 minutes ago, RedLionLad said: Decent tackle from Mark Noble Definite shirt pull on Danny Dyer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poland_exile Posted March 10, 2018 Report Share Posted March 10, 2018 23 minutes ago, joe jordans teeth said: More fool them then and if it’s Facebook I would take it with a pinch of salt.I felt for Coventry fans and the like being completely shafted so I’m sorry if my heart doesn’t bleed for the hard done by fans of West Ham no problem, happy to agree to disagree. Personally I'm horrified by what's happening to football and some clubs, and salute anyone making a stand! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WolfOfWestStreet Posted March 10, 2018 Report Share Posted March 10, 2018 Football fans all over the country are starting to have enough. Stuff like this is going to happen more often, fans are just fed up with being treated like walking wallets to watch players that do not care. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CotswoldRed Posted March 10, 2018 Report Share Posted March 10, 2018 2 minutes ago, WolfOfWestStreet said: Football fans all over the country are starting to have enough. Stuff like this is going to happen more often, fans are just fed up with being treated like walking wallets to watch players that do not care. I'm not so sure. Where else have we seen something like this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maggersno1Fan Posted March 10, 2018 Report Share Posted March 10, 2018 6 minutes ago, CotswoldRed said: I'm not so sure. Where else have we seen something like this? Bolton orient Just last season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CotswoldRed Posted March 10, 2018 Report Share Posted March 10, 2018 1 minute ago, Maggersno1Fan said: Bolton orient Just last season Forgot orient. What happened at Bolton? Seems all is forgiven now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maggersno1Fan Posted March 10, 2018 Report Share Posted March 10, 2018 1 minute ago, CotswoldRed said: Forgot orient. What happened at Bolton? Seems all is forgiven now. Was scenes as they were auctioning off the car park etc blackburn few season back they released the chicken :laugh:. all the United stuff with people turning up at players houses. shockingly all the stuff Sunderland been through they don’t cause trouble Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pezo Posted March 10, 2018 Report Share Posted March 10, 2018 For the price people pay they seem to expect relative success which is obviously impossible for every club. The bottom line is you can make changes if it makes the club more successful but it gets thrown straight back in the clubs face if there is a downturn on the pitch for anything over 2 months. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maggersno1Fan Posted March 10, 2018 Report Share Posted March 10, 2018 2 minutes ago, Pezo said: For the price people pay they seem to expect relative success which is obviously impossible for every club. The bottom line is you can make changes if it makes the club more successful but it gets thrown straight back in the clubs face if there is a downturn on the pitch for anything over 2 months. Look at the relegation season & Sod season they were bleak days & they did nothing to appease the fans or apologise here. they cost the fans a lot of money Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
22A Posted March 10, 2018 Report Share Posted March 10, 2018 Given the situation at WHU today, something similar was proposed at AG in April last year. http://www.otib.co.uk/index.php?/topic/185345-time-to-get-an-organised-demonstration-merged/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CotswoldRed Posted March 10, 2018 Report Share Posted March 10, 2018 10 minutes ago, 22A said: Given the situation at WHU today, something similar was proposed at AG in April last year. http://www.otib.co.uk/index.php?/topic/185345-time-to-get-an-organised-demonstration-merged/ Proposed by one or two and it taking place are poles apart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WolfOfWestStreet Posted March 10, 2018 Report Share Posted March 10, 2018 32 minutes ago, CotswoldRed said: I'm not so sure. Where else have we seen something like this? Charlton, Blackpool, Coventry, Orient, Sunderland, Blackburn, Portsmouth, Cardiff, Rangers, Newcastle ... probably more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CotswoldRed Posted March 10, 2018 Report Share Posted March 10, 2018 16 minutes ago, WolfOfWestStreet said: Charlton, Blackpool, Coventry, Orient, Sunderland, Blackburn, Portsmouth, Cardiff, Rangers, Newcastle ... probably more. Lots of clubs listed there and lots of reasons for revolt. Everything from reckless spending of money to not spending enough. Does it make sense to lump them all together? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poland_exile Posted March 10, 2018 Report Share Posted March 10, 2018 42 minutes ago, WolfOfWestStreet said: Charlton, Blackpool, Coventry, Orient, Sunderland, Blackburn, Portsmouth, Cardiff, Rangers, Newcastle ... probably more. and that's just the ones that are happening now - not long back similar nightmares were unfolding at Leeds, Luton, Pompey, Darlington. Beyond the whole financial mismanagement, fans are being shafted left right and center by owners, tv channels, politicians, the police. To then have players fannying about earning obscene amounts of cash sticks in the craw. It's getting increasingly hard to love this game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BristolIsRed Posted March 10, 2018 Report Share Posted March 10, 2018 Not a policeman/woman in sight mind - wouldn't be the same at Ashton Gate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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spudski Posted March 10, 2018 Report Share Posted March 10, 2018 Burnley Subs gave up their seats on the subs bench to West Ham kids to avoid all the violence...pathetic...all over a game of football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted March 10, 2018 Report Share Posted March 10, 2018 Would this have been that noteworthy 20 years ago, is question one? Mind you, they have little to moan about in the grand scheme...there have been ongoing problems since their move there though, and this has been bubbling up for sometime. 37 minutes ago, BristolIsRed said: Not a policeman/woman in sight mind - wouldn't be the same at Ashton Gate Not that uncommon. Are most PL games heavily policed? Don't tend to be- spotters obviously and some police, but certainly no overkill. http://www.espn.co.uk/football/english-premier-league/story/3395246/police-issue-warning-over-rising-disorder-in-football-grounds Where on earth are their SAG however- imagine if this happened at Ashton Gate?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northern Red Posted March 10, 2018 Report Share Posted March 10, 2018 http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/premier-league/west-ham-united-board-protest-march-meetings-hooligans-icf-action-group-a8244951.html?amp This is a bit of an eye opener, long read but worth it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
054123 Posted March 10, 2018 Report Share Posted March 10, 2018 2 hours ago, CotswoldRed said: Not on the pitch though. In your opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CotswoldRed Posted March 10, 2018 Report Share Posted March 10, 2018 4 minutes ago, 054123 said: In your opinion. Indeed. I would argue that breaking the law shouldn't really be necessary to make the point. (yes, I know the Man U win promoted a pitch invasion, but common sense is able to see the difference). By the way, is there a need to add "in your opinion"? All my posts are in my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BanburyRed Posted March 10, 2018 Report Share Posted March 10, 2018 a 3pt deduction puts them in the bottom 3..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted March 10, 2018 Report Share Posted March 10, 2018 Point is too, that collectively and as an entity- football crowds can be potentially volatile. I don't mean it in a pejorative sense by the way. Not condoning this, and certainly the incident I'm about to describe isn't in the same League...Section 82, who I think are great- remember last year v Stoke in September? Kid was pushed off his seat by a bouncer masquerading as a steward, and it all kicked off- just like that. It doesn't take much to cause a flash point, because it's a high octane sport that inspires significant passion and emotion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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