WolfOfWestStreet

4 minutes ago, Davefevs said:

I think most non-PP clubs would be giving him a serious think.  

OK but seeing as we keep being told by the club the remit is to be promoted, why give our top dollar to a player that wouldn't get into a team our rivals for promotion wouldn't sign. 

I like Joe, he's a good player, he's not a player in the #8 position of a team that gets promoted imo.

If we're happy to lurk in 12th for eternity, fine, sign him on. I just hope the club is looking to make upgrades, not double down on players, who let's be honest have hardly set the world on fire in this league. 

Dave - honest question as I know you are a smart guy and have all the data to back up most arguments, but really, what do you really think this club actually wants to do? Because I'm confused, there seems to be no real vision coming out of this club anymore. 

15 minutes ago, Davefevs said:

No, it isn’t!

Joe Williams makes more forward passes as a percentage of all passes, than most (c90%) of Championship midfielders with at least 500 minutes!

Dave. If Joe Williams was a free agent tomorrow, what club(s) do you think would be in for him. 

3 hours ago, GrahamC said:

Not his job.

Korey Smith only scored one league goal in his time at City, he was still very good.

Smith was good, but he didn't shine in these aspects either, probably to our detriment. 

Williams is the same, do we really want to invest in a midfielder that can't score or really assist. 

We seem to be happy with the malaise that is bang average ... and yes I full expect a Bristol city #8 to score more than 2 goals in 3 years that's ******* pathetic 

1 hour ago, KegCity said:

Goals and assists aren’t the measure of a centre midfielder.

Kinda disagree with that ... 

I don't want to be a right negative dick, because I like Joe Williams,, but is 2 goals an 9 assists in 3 years, warranting top money? 

Think we should try and punch higher tbh 

Seeing as we have built a shrine in our stadium to a FA Cup replay match, often mentioned as one of the best results in our history ... I would find it somewhat strange if the club ignored this

14 minutes ago, SecretSam said:

I see there's absolutely nothing from the club on this. 

From City's point of view, it's not a big thing, but if I were one of the non-league clubs I'd be fuming.

It should be a big thing for city. The Premier League and FA have colluded to make decisions that effect this club without giving Bristol City any say in the matter. The club should be very alarmed about this.

I'm absolutely raging at this.

My first city game was an FA Cup replay with my now wife and I played in an FA Cup qualifier in 2004. 

This competition is special and deserves protection. I hope City come out and condem this decision that has been made without their consultation. 

He's really going to be here next season isn't he ...

2 minutes ago, Red Army 75 said:

I bigged Wells up and you were negative. Which is it 

Ignore him. He's all aggro replying to every post - someone must have eaten his easter egg. 

Just now, W-S-M Seagull said:

It concerns me greatly the damage that may be done by him bringing in his own players. 

He was brought in to improve THIS set of players and he has failed to do that. 

I agree Manning doesn't deserve a chequebook ... get rid and upgrade. 

1 minute ago, phantom said:

Do you not think he was awful against Leicester? 

It's about responding maturely 

Not sure about that, thought he caught him 

Stroud doing OK so far 

You're in a weird mood today having a pop at anyone and everyone 

3 minutes ago, ExiledAjax said:

Because Green v Red makes the game basically unwatchable for about 12% of the population.

It's a clash.

We're unwatchable a lot more that 12% of the population 

Why the hell are we playing in piss yellow and green against a team in green?

Red and white would have been fine

1 hour ago, Shauntaylor85 said:

This place is crazy. One win doesn’t change the fact he has been incredibly poor since being appointed. Today was good and if it carries on then brilliant, but we need consistency and we’ve been here before. Always expected us to win today, we always do in these types of games. 

Yeah the amount of people getting back in to bed again with Manning is wild to me. 

What I saw today was good, but that's the minimum expectation I have when watching this club. The vast majority of games this season have been well below this standard, I've seen enough. 

Really enjoyed that today which is the first time I'm said that in a while.

Credit where its due, talk of him losing the dressing room is clearly false.

I still want him sacked and replaced with a proper manager for next season. 

2 hours ago, RedM said:

Everyone knows this surely?

Yeah this isn't news, nepotism and cronyism are very much a thing. 

29 minutes ago, Maldini said:

Can you expand on the first paragraph about day to day running and his mates being involved? Appreciate you may not be able too.

He has personal friends who are employed by Bristol Sport who have worked there a long time. 

27 minutes ago, StGeorge said:

Get a grip

Sorry yes you're right. This club pushes me towards heresy sometimes

We're sailing dangerously close to gas levels of tinpot right now 

I swear the club are just trolling us at this point.

2 hours ago, Davefevs said:

That’s me too…it’s what he says in relation to what he’s seeing versus what I’m seeing (and you too by the seems of it).  Nige wasn’t much beyond monotone either, but what he said was insightful, and imho resonated with what I was seeing on the pitch.  Manning appears to be watching a slightly different game, somewhat through rose-tinted specs.  I think he struggles with levelling off what a good performance is, and then what level of performance is needed to win games.  Saying “we’ve been in every game” or stuff like that, is a bit misleading.  We are playing a low-scoring sport.  Leeds (h) was a game where we were in it, purely because they only scored once, but that doesn’t level out to mean it was a good performance.  I know he said we weren’t “at it” that game, just using it to make a general point.

Yeah good point re: Leeds, yeah we 'only' lost 0-1 but we were never 'in it'. 

Lot's of struggling managers like to use scoreline differential to project the 'fine margins', but we were never close to getting anything out of that game, we had 1 shot. 

We were arguably closer in the recent WBA game but 2-0 is harder to defend than 0-1

5 hours ago, Robbored said:

Same technical speak that hardly anyone understands

You flatter him. It's not as if he's trying to to explain quantum physics or the theory of relativity to a bunch of plebs.

We can all understand what he's saying.

The problem is Liam is trying to fill a two minute interview with complete arse gas to disguise the fact he doesn't know what he's doing. 

6 hours ago, Shauntaylor85 said:

Phil Mitchell would be a better choice than Manning. At least he would have some passion! 

At this point Sonya Jacksons trumpet or Robbie Fowlers dog would be an upgrade.

He must know his time here is coming to an end, he has no respect from the fan base and is now just an object of ridicule. It's becoming hard to watch in all honesty.

In fact this whole situation reminds me when Leeds, when they were at the height of their disfunction, sacked experienced manager Brian McDermmot and hired Forest Green Manager, David Hockaday ... a hugely dissapointing appointment in the eyes of the supporters, he became an object of ridicule, was completely out of his depth, sacked after 6 games and is now genuinely a P.E Teacher at Stroud College.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dave_Hockaday

7 hours ago, Silvio Dante said:

“we need to do us”

I hate it. I really, really, really hate it.