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1 minute ago, Back of the Dolman said:

A hybrid of the two would be a tasty player 

They would be a very weird looking player.

On 13/04/2024 at 23:31, Nescot said:

Twine is worth every penny anything 4mil or under sign.

Such a shame there isn't a Bellend emoji.

6 minutes ago, AppyDAZE said:

Hardly any complaints? That's not what I saw 

They were going mental 

At their player for being a bellend and handballing it and more to the point not getting away with it.

It was a Penalty. Time to move on.

On 14/04/2024 at 01:21, 2015 said:

Never a penalty and common sense should prevail in these circumstances. That could send Huddersfield down. Pretty disgraceful

Common sense is a bit irrelevant if it was a penalty, which it was and was correctly given.

Hardly any complaints from the Huddersfield players, including the offender. Speaks volumes, especially in their position!

On 10/04/2024 at 12:35, CiderJar said:

Current "Hot Topics"

They missed out the word Crack on Hot Topic number 3.

3 minutes ago, RedLionLad said:

You're wasting your time trying to reason with his ignorance

Now now... Lets all play nicely.

It's Friday and nearly cider time !!

4 hours ago, The Batman said:

Yep. I was there at Wembley and I thought in that split second he should be watching the game and not running over and arguing with the ref. Low and behold, quick free kick, cross, goal. 

Cavanagh and Thorne were quality at league 1 level. 

I was there too but was right down the other end from it. Never liked Stoke. Too many bad memories!

Kavanagh and Thorne were always c*nts versus us as well. I think they both or at least Kavanagh went on to play for Cardiff. Enough said!

14 hours ago, Jerseybean said:

Yep when we went to sleep and they took a quick free kick to score the winner! 

I may be wrong but wasn't Carey to busy arguing with the ref about the free kick and then they scored from it?

15 hours ago, Sandhurst Red said:

If they lose their next 2 - Sheffield Wednesday and Plymouth they are in big trouble. 

You could argue Southampton will be out of contention for automatic by then (if not already) so may rest a few players, meaning they could need 3 points final day. 

Probably shouldn't say, but if that were the case, I'd go to an away game I wasn't intending to do.

Is it wrong to take joy from others misery?

Absolutely not wrong !!

Bas Savage for comedy value. Hasn't been much to laugh about this season.

I remember him falling over with nobody around him one on one versus Yeovil (I think). Everyone just p!ssed themselves laughing.

2 minutes ago, Eddie Hitler said:

 

I can't say that I have been following the saga closely but this is from Feb 2024 and says that the council had very sensibly refused to sell Osborne the freehold.

 

The Gulls’s Plainmoor ground is owned by the council and leased to the club under and agreement which has nearly 60 years still to run.

Previous owner Clarke Osborne, who stood down last week, had wanted to build the club a new stadium away from Plainmoor. But the council had been adamant that Plainmoor itself is not for sale, and Mr Osborne would never be able to build homes on it.

https:w//www.torbayweekly.co.uk/news/home/1435351/council-pledges-to-be-an-anchor-for-torquay-united.html

 

When I saw that you had replied to my last post. I suddenly thought that you were going to say you were a Councillor on Torbay Council. 

The problem here is that there is nothing to say Torbay Council won't build houses on it. This has to be the end game in some shape or form i.e. the new owners given land elsewhere to build a new ground for TUFC. Maybe I'm just a cynical old git.

10 minutes ago, Eddie Hitler said:

Any sensible potential buyer will wait until the club goes into administration before making an offer as then they are negotiating with the administrator who will sell much more cheaply than the owner, as the owner has already lost their money and only the creditors have a vote on each bid.

I don't know why people are surprised that Torquay have gone into administration as this almost always happens and it is actually a better deal for the club's future as the buyer's money goes purely to the creditors and not to the previous owner.

 

Also AFAIK the freehold on Plainmoor is owned by the council and the strategy of the previous owners was to have this transferred to them, which didn't happen as the councillors are not retarded.

I think you give Torbay Council far too much credit Eddie.

I'm a Bristolian that lives in South Devon and know some supporters and season ticket holders. This has been coming for some years now. Some of the money they have been paying players and Management has been mind blowing. Some terrible financial mis-management. 

The positive in all of this is that at least it looks like there is a take over of the club imminently which should secure the club's future. I just hope it isn't some chancer that is looking for a quick buck. Plainmoor has been long sought after for residential building projects which is my worry. However, if this can be achieved with the proviso of a new ground somewhere in or around Torquay then if it means the club survives then I guess it's a compromise that will have to be struck.

4 hours ago, ChippenhamRed said:

Good grief. So I can’t accuse Manchester City of immorality or wrongdoing without mentioning every other instance of immorality or wrongdoing at the same time. Just utter nonsense.

If I call Harold Shipman a mass murderer but don’t mention Fred West in the same sentence, it doesn’t mean I think Fred West was a nice chap.

You can't put Harold Shipman and Fred West in the same sentence. Shipman couldn't hold a light to West in a game of mass murderer Top Trumps !

Has recency bias been mentioned yet? 

For those that went to the Plymuff match was anyone else amazed at how bad and amateurish the away end was? The whole end holds 1,900 I believe (including the home fans bit). On the TV the away end looks quite good and the rest of the stadium does look ok.

Those flimsy metal fences behind the burger van. The Portaloos. The security staff frisking us on the way in and asking for metal objects to be put on a picnic table. I got frisked and I could have had a machine gun up my jacket for all the good it did.

I was happy that the Stewards seem to be ok with us standing all game and in most of the walk ways and on the steps but they seem to not care for the most part about safety issues. Our Stewards would have had a meltdown. 

It all looked very League 1 which I'm guessing they will be back to next season anyway.

3 hours ago, Kid in the Riot said:

It's not an "argument". It's a fact. Man City are paying their lawyers to stall the progress of the cases brought against them. 

Throughout the whole process Man City have sought to discredit the proceedings, hide information, and threaten journalists and the courts.

They've behaved appallingly, and not like other clubs who have mostly cooperated with the Premier League. 

They are banking on stalling the process for long enough so that they can win as much as possible before sanctions hit. 

They are also hoping for political intervention given their owners lead a country that is a UK ally. 

Before I respond to the post, I need to make clear that I hold no torch for Man City or any other Premier team.

Any business will employ lawyers to do what is best for their clients. Football is no different. None of us on here really know how many of these charges may or may not stick and if any do, what the punishment that is dished out will look like.

If they are stalling then they are because they can and because their lawyers are going to do everything they can to help the cause. As per the first sentence of this paragraph.

The cooperation point is more to do with the other clubs really had nowhere to hide. It was and is in plain sight. 

Whether we or anyone else likes it. Money makes the world go around. Business is Business and football these days is just that. Business.

23 hours ago, EstoniaTallinnRed said:

Argyle TV had us down as Bristol at the final result.

It is so they don't have to change it when they play Rovers in League 1 next season.

26 minutes ago, Bristol Oil Services said:

We've had our nice little trip down there now, quite happy for them to tootle off back down to L1 and resume playing the Few et al, whilst we crack on with yer Leeds's, yer Leicesters'ss, and yer Sunderlands (ie the big boy's) 

Agree. Apart from the first 20 minutes which I can't remember facing that amount of corners in such a short space of time, we looked at worst comfortable. As soon as we scored you could see their belief disappear. Their Coach had no ideas to change anything or respond positively in any way.

Back off to L1. It's where they belong.

34 minutes ago, alexukhc said:

He has to seek help first himself I agree, same as others

I bet he won't though!

(sorry if this is a bit of a childish response but I'm having a bad day).

Please say it's an April 1st stunt that has been leaked early? 

10 minutes ago, phantom said:

No relevance to this debate 

Agree. The fact he wasn't English has no relevance in this debate.

However, in 11 pages it has grown many arms and legs which topics invariably do. If they didn't do so then these topics / debates would be very short indeed and certainly not run for 11+ pages.

6 minutes ago, Tim Monaghan said:

Well, it might be a sh!te argument if I was actually arguing something . St. George was a Turk and never visited England. And I don't want to break this to you, but he didn't actually kill a dragon in Libya . I'm absolutely fine with that. I'm confused why that would even be an issue? But thanks for the unnecessarily patronising comment.

Anyway, for what it's worth, I'm as patriotic as they come. However, this is yet another case of people jumping on the old bandwagon (like the arms conference at Ashton Gate). This is just the next thing to be angry about. They have changed the St. George's cross on the back of the shirt before, but nobody said a peep. Why is everyone getting so outraged by it this year? Maybe it's a sign of the times? I think it's a stupid thing to have done. This isn't just Nike's fault, but the FA's. I'm not sure how changing our country's flag makes it inclusive? Would they have done that to another country's flag like Saudi Arabia? More questions than answers, but am I gonna get my knickers in a twist about it or get "triggered" (god how I hate that word)? Not at all. I just won't buy the shirt. I'll still wave my St Georges Cross. 

All I did was respond to your post: 'St George wasn't even English'.

The end.

8 minutes ago, Red-Robbo said:

 

If you're going to quote the story about Genoa and Richard the Lionheart's fleet sheltering there, that is likely a myth. No contemporary account confirms that or indeed that "English knights"(most of whom would've been Gascons not English) ever wore the St George cross during the Crusades.  The first mention of English soldiers having a cross on their shields comes a century after the last Crusade, during the Baron's War and that was just a simple + not linked to St George.  St George didn't become the patron saint of England until 1552 (St Edmund had been that during Medieval times) and the St George flag wasn't used by English army and naval forces until the 17th Century.

No, I wasn't going to quote that story or any other story. 

If people want to find out how St George became the patron Saint of England. It's very easy to find.

3 hours ago, ChippenhamRed said:

OK just to be clear on this it’s only the colours that matter, yes? Not the form? So if they’d kept the flag red but made the lines curved instead of straight that would have been OK yeah?

Just need to check the rules on what we’re supposed to be offended by.

Is there a yawn emoji available?

2 hours ago, Tim Monaghan said:

St George wasn't even English

It's a sh!te argument which usually gets banded about on or around St George's Day. If you don't know the story behind why St George is England's Patron Saint then perhaps you should.

Any flag on any England Football kit should be as it is without any artistic licence required or needed.