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So looks like Rennie might have known what he was talking about, after all…dear oh dear - the first international break after the club sacks DR for giving players the last one sometime to rest and they thought they knew better and we now have this mess…. Take a bow Tinnion!

I look at those names coming back and I’ll I really see is cover and competition, which is helpful - not sure how many of the below really improve the current first team, certainly not in sense of a promotion push which I just can’t see happening without spending in Jan: Williams - CM competition, McCrorie - Jury’s out still hopefully an upgrade, Benarous - will surely need time to develop still, if stays fit more key next season onwards?, Atkinson - does he get in ahead of Vyner and Dickie now? Wells - obviously key competition for Conway, may depend of system Manning uses, Wiles-Richard’s, King and Robert’s - cover.

Forget working on tactics during the international break….just hope he’s done his research and doesn’t give the remaining players any time off……

And remarkably they’ve all got the same opinion that Manning would be a great appointment…

Actually one of the benefits of the injuries was seeing TGH and Knight in the ‘deeper’ centre mid positions. Thought Knight especially was more effective from deep vs. Cardiff and had one of his best games. So I kind of hope they stay with TGH and Knight there, rather than bring in Naismith. I’d be happy with either Weimann or Mehmeti in the 10. Sykes back outwide FW - so Tanner has to come back in. Vyner and Dickie for me at CB.

Wow, that paragraph sounded so much like you were talking about yourself… But then I realised - Oh you’re talking about me…I’m flattered you’ve been watching my posts so much

Just wondering what your bonus is in £££’s from Bristol Sport for every time you try and gaslight people with your posts on here?

THANK YOU. Yes said something like - we’ve given the players long time off at international breaks before and it was never a problem or mentioned then…

The whole interview was unpinned with a philosophical, “that’s football” kind of vibe - but the meanings were clear. As @petehinton said, he came out swinging for his mates, often in a read between the lines way, got some excellent points in and as always what he didn’t say was as loud as what he did say.

Slightly paraphrased but main takeaways: Players and staff in shock Knock on to 30 or 40 people, other employees, when a manager goes - not just one person is sacked. Nige will be back and they will work together again David Rennie one of the best in the business and has done a fantastic job 2 wins in next 2 games and table would have/will look very different 4 weeks time and the conversations over injuries would be very different - i.e many are returning over next 4 games or so, already 3 back in contention for Saturday His focus is on Saturday and that's it - focus is on the boys(players) - absolutely no conversation about putting name in the hat Talked a bit about Nige's achievements and legacy - culture installed and proud of what they've done here. Sad to be leaving, it's a great club, who wouldn't be sad

Fleming dropping a grenade or two there. That interview puts to bed anyone who thought they'd appoint him...

Out of emojis - but absolutely this. They wouldn't have all just gone on holiday - they would have been in the gym and light training. It's the kind of thing you review and learn from, not fire good people for....

Again - contradictions in the various lines being put out there. Personally I think given the pretty good record DR had over previous seasons, that this "offence" of giving them a week off to rest, is hardly a sackable offence. Also In JE's case. Especially when you scrutinise the details - who actually are we talking about getting injured since/during the international break? Williams - impact injury in training. Naismith? James - impact injury vs Ipswich So the reality is the difference between the line ups pre (Leeds) and post (Coventry) last international break was 2 players, Nays and Williams? Doesn't align with the story that the week off has caused more trouble. On the contrary, maybe the rest helped the recovery of others?? Weimann, Conway etc. Hardly sackable...

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Run out of emoji's again - thank you!!

Just for clarity, what were my "worst words"? And also can you find the point where I said BT has "done nothing for the club since he's been brought back"? So yes, you have put words in my mouth. You may be annoyed with people giving Tinnion abuse, you seem very protective of him, fine - but I am not one of those people giving him personal abuse, i've actively it actually. So go and reply to those people directly about that if you want, not me. This is a BCFC football forum, all i'm doing is debating the job he's doing at BCFC and the quality of his opinion.

Agree apart from bold part. Those following OTIB for the last 2 weeks (or even following the club for the last 20 years!) have seen everything that has panned out called virtually to the day - there is more than enough information out there to blow holes in what SL and the board are saying vs. doing...again.

I think you've put a few words in my mouth there. As I said, I feel for him - he clearly has played a big role, alongside many others, in finally getting our academy sorted and up and running and producing at the levels it should have 10/15 years ago. No one is taking that away from him. My question would be, does that qualify him for the role he's now in? Personally i'd like a more ambitious appointment - but as always, we wait and see and time will tell, as it always does in the end what his legacy will ultimately be.

Yes this is very true - could well be self-preservation. When the, absolutely spot on, rumours about NP's sacking, even down to the timing of it - were starting to appear on OTIB weeks before the event....so too were very strong rumours, from the same sources, that Tinnion was briefing against NP, at the time along the lines of "he never comes to training anymore...". So I think a few are inclined to believe that too, given the rest was all true - yeah we don't know if he was leading or following though, but he is a key (one of 3) part of the process, that's the job he took.

I do feel a bit sorry for Tinnion TBH - Clearly a Bristol City man through and through, in large part due to the fact that the vast majority of his footballing life has been at BCFC. But there's the problem - good player, failed (badly) manager. Little CV outside our club and what the fans see is him working his way up the greasy pole and it looks like more cronyism, something that is cancerous at this club under SL. Suddenly he's going from being co-host of Robins TV and being the go to man for youth prospect info and development...to being instrumental in firing one of the most popular managers for decades, and people are rightly asking, hang on, how did that happen. Has he earned that? Clearly many think, no. Pearson vs. Tinnion on footballing matters...sorry there's only one winner. A very harsh lesson these past two weeks for Tinnion that with power comes responsibility and consequences.

I agree there are too many personal attack on here at the moment but I do feel the vast majority of posts are sensible debate based around 'performance' rather than 'personalities'. However; not as a justification, but discussion point - the disdain with which Lansdown(s) and Tinnion have treated the fans (or should I say customers) with the - strong words but a spade's a spade - lies and arrogance of a) their words and actions and b) those 2 awful, awful statement interviews - frankly if that's the way you treat people, you set yourself for it.

Don't think anyone has suggested any injury conspiracy theories, or anything along the lines of your active imagination there...you seem to be the one jumping to conclusions IMO.....?! More that on Sunday NP and DR were fired, in part due to injuries and a day or so later, 4 key players (who DR would have got/been getting back to fitness) and NP would soon have at his disposal - are back in training. They would have known that and therefore not giving NP a chance to see how we get on with a few less injuries - given with a fuller squad we've been in/within touching distance of the play offs (the clubs expectation, as we've been told...) - would have seemed fair. I think IMO people are more interested in the continued 'contradictions' coming out of the hierarchy of the club.

5-1 now - you lot been splashing out?!

Good post - as far as they are concerned it's all clearer than ever - "THE TESTAMENT OF TINNION" Challenging the top 6 is expected. They believe this squad is good enough for that. Tinnion is leading the football side, our DOF in all but name and therefore ultimately responsible. Ethos/style is clear, high energy and press/buy cheap and develop - manager will work to that. So over to you then gents... But all joking aside, we all want this to work, don't **** it up Tinnion.

All emotions aside - whose football judgement do you trust more? Jon Landsown and Brian Tinnion or Nigel Pearson and Dave Rennie I know the answer to that all week and unfortunately the former have the casting vote. At least they've both spoken finally (chickened out of an actually outside interview) but it's a huge number of contradictions in both statements and the most worrying question for me is, do they actually believe what they're saying?? Because if they do, we are ****** with these guys at the helm.