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Very Bristol City, forwards finally turn up so the defence loses it! We very rarely concede three but we scored two, so guess we had to

No new outs, no new ins, same 18 players as Saturday. Tough game, a point would be good work here ️

Injured:

Tanner

Atkinson

Naismith

James

Benarous

Twine

Bell

I’m never one for messing around with what works but my initial response is I don’t hate this. We’ll see how it goes.

Not sure this helps…

59 minutes ago, marmite said:

We have greatcup history over our 100 plus years.

Anglo Scottish.... Glos Cup....Paint pot trophy.  Wow, makes you proud to be a City fan. Didn't we also win the Welsh cup once?

10 honours in our history. 
 

1 second tier title.

4 third tier titles.

3 JPT’s.

1 Anglo-Scottish Cup.

1 Welsh Cup.

I discount Gloucester cups. Too regionalised a competition.

Not pretty reading I grant you but we’re STILL more decorated than the gas.

3 minutes ago, JoeyVimsantePoet said:

Poems don't have to rhyme. :laugh:.

But I would love Scottish to play English sides every season. Not too many times but not never. 

We’ve actually won an Anglo-Scottish haven’t we. Before my birth but a trophy is a trophy! But with ‘fixture congestion’ being every managers buzzword I’m not sure I can see it coming back without some other reshuffling. 

Following Leicester’s mini collapse those bastards find themselves 3 points off the top spot…

I cannot live in a world where Mark Ashton oversees back to back Ipswich promotions. I’d give a toe to beat them Tuesday. 

Just now, JoeyVimsantePoet said:

It is not bizarre. It is about football. This is a football forum. 

I’m only playing Joey! Just very out the blue. All a bit overcomplicated for my tastes, but hey the FA and UEFA have done whackier than this!

This might be it. The single most bizarre thread on OTIB. Frame it.

The gap is 6 points but about 8 teams. Similar to when we were chasing play-offs, the point gap was small but the number of teams we had to outpace made it tricky. We’ll be fine. But we need to find a win, any way, soon. Just to keep the gap.

Appreciate all the responses and some good counterpoints to my counterpoints raised! And no-one swore at me so I'm calling it a win

I really do think we’ll stay up whoever is in the dugout. I said 6 points will do it, it may be even fewer honestly. I appreciate 0 points from 9 makes it feel like we’ll never win again, we’ll find one or two. Maybe I’m wrong and he should go, and someone made a good point of it’s cheaper to change the manager than remould the squad in LM’s vision. 
 

But even though I think he’s the wrong appointment, I believe four months isn’t a fair crack of the whip. 
 

But hey, we all have our opinions and want the same thing. Onto Tuesday and, everything crossed, a point or three against Mark Ashton’s boys.

1 minute ago, David Brent said:

Is that really what we’ve become? What this season has come to..

Sadly, yes mate. The Lansclowns shot this season in the face in October. I do not back any of their decisions. I’m just thinking damage control. 

2 minutes ago, Swede said:

Not his players!!!! Can't get much better than Andy King and Matty James with Premier League experience.

What you're not saying is that he's changed our style MID SEASON from a counter attacking set up to a possession based team or trying to. There's where the folly is. He has to work with what he's got. IF he was any good he would be able to implement his style with what he has at his disposal. More worryingly the problem is indeed above him. We have a League 1 set up now.

I agree he should be more adaptable with playing style, I wonder if now the wolves are (a bit) at our door he will. But he was always going to try to play his way, and that’s why he was a bad appointment, his way isn’t this squads way. Our board are thick. But he’s here now. We should let him have a fair crack of the whip, not his fault the board are muppets. 

No new knocks I saw. We need Twine for some creativity, anyone know of a timeframe? I thought he was due. 
 

Injured:

Tanner

Atkinson

Naismith

James

Benarous

Twine

Bell

8 minutes ago, South Bristol Red said:

As things stand it is 6 points, could be much closer by the end of this coming week. 

Plus where are these 6 points you claim we need going to come from?

If we don’t get 6 more points this season I’ll apply for Welsh citizenship. Our three losses on the spin were all by one goal, on another day we score a goal off Nahki’s arse or the opposition miss a sitter and it’s 3 points. Those games will come before the seasons end. We’ll be fine. 

1 minute ago, Capman said:

There is nothing I detest more than dishonesty. JL told us that they were making a change because we were underperforming on the pitch with the squad we had and a change in the dugout would make that right. If he lied about the squad, he needs to go. If he was right about the squad, but picked the wrong manager he, Manning and Tinnion all need to go. But for me there is no acceptable outcome which leaves JL as chairman. He needs to go. He has treated all fans as fools. He lied to us, and that can and will never be acceptable. 

I agree with you completely. And we’re suffering for his lies now.

9 minutes ago, joe jordans teeth said:

So basically he’s blameless for this turgid football his team are producing is what you are saying 

Not blameless, but massively diminished responsibility. Look higher. They don’t know anything about football and it shows.

2 minutes ago, Graham76 said:

Is this a wind up?

Your last point is ridiculous.  Manning is tactically inept. 

No it’s not. With these owners the kitchen will always be on fire. What’s the point in changing the head chef? 
 

They screwed up by sacking Pearson then appointed the wrong man. The next one will likely be wrong too. What’s the point in just restarting the cycle?

Anticipate a battering here but I’ll post my thoughts anyway. 
 

We should keep him. LM is going poorly - let’s have it right. We’ve lost to three teams with worse squads than us on the spin. Criticism is more than fair and us, as paying and long-suffering supporters, are qualified to give it.

But.

- These are not his players. They don’t suit his style. His one ‘big’ signing in his mould is injured (an ongoing issue here that long precedes LM). He will need the summer.

- The same idiots still own the club. The next appointment will also struggle - they struggle at appointing managers.

- He’s got over 3 years of contract left. So has his assistant. We’ve sorted our money issues, let’s not piss all that money away now.

- This will be the least popular one. We showed some signs of progress today. We nicked the ball high on about 4 occasions, that’s our best avenue of attack and we saw signs of it. I actually think we were the better team today. They scored one set piece, and their keeper had a solid game. Today was better, albeit against a low bar.

We’re safe this season. Some will say we’re not but we are. 9 points AND 9 places clear. 6 more points from 11 games will do it. 
 

The problems lie above his head, and until they’re gone, we will always fail at this level. No amount of chopping and changing managers will change that fact. And even if they do finally get it right and appoint a man to take us forward… we know they’ll sack him anyway. 
 

Congrats on your daughter buddy.

All the same players as last week, minus Tanner who must be unwell or injured. We don’t replace him in the squad as we name 7 subs (8 last weekend). Naismith was touted for a potential return… not to be today. Hopefully we find out more on that soon. So not great news to start the day, but hopefully come 14.30 we all have some great new to discuss! COYR. Into these blue ******.

Injured:

Tanner

Atkinson

Naismith

James

Benarous

Twine

Bell

TGH wing?!

BOOOOO.

He plays for Cardiff and we won nothing in his time here anyway. The only (recent) ex-players I really have any love for were the double winners. 

I'm not going to be Manning out this summer pretty much regardless. Owners are the issue. I won't go on my 8th tirade about that!

For me, I'll look down more of a performance lens than a result lens for the remainder of this season since points return is relatively academic now. However, I want to pick out 3 games where I think we need a result above all else, even if we play crap.

Cardiff on Saturday, as it's a derby. And we could all really do with a lift right now.

Swansea, another derby. 

Stoke. Last game of the season so a chance to take some feel-good into the summer. And we could relegate one of the shiny 'former prem teams' that the media/Sky love so much, which would just be really funny.

All the rest, we can focus on getting Manning-ball instilled into the squad and identify changes the squad may need in the summer.

If we lose all three of my pinpointed matches. Painful but so be it. I'll still want Manning to be given the summer. The problems are above his head. 

On 25/02/2024 at 13:09, Gert Mare said:

The bloke was on a hiding to nothing due to a ridiculous non footballing decision to sack the previous manager who had made us competitive in most games without any funds to improve and wage constraints.

The most laughable thing I’ve heard was that Nigel Pearson had taken us as far as he could. Really? The bloke took Leicester to the Premier League with actual backing and kept them there with a great escape when they looked dead and buried and basically built the squad which won the Premier League at 5000-1 against odds, but if some want to believe that he had taken Bristol City as far as he could then in my opinion I think that’s a totally deluded view.

We have no choice but to back Manning at the moment. We need to get this season over with and it’s too dangerous to create any further instability at this time.

The ones that should be sacked in my opinion are the ones that made one of the most ludicrous decisions since the dark days of the early 80’s. They also blatantly lied to the supporters about the decision and they made it abundantly clear that success had to happen this season, not next.

If anyone needs to go it isn’t Manning, he’s been sold a lie like the rest of us, but he hasn’t helped by failing to play to our strengths with what he has got at his disposal which is most definitely not top end championship challenging.

There are 2 people that need to die by their swords and that is the Chairman and DoF sidekick. Out of touch with reality, egotistical, toxic and clueless when it comes to taking this club forward.

Love this post.