Eddie Hitler

How can people tell that they are fake?

1 minute ago, Grey Fox said:

Each August we start a new season, it would be nice to try to win the league, or promotion, otherwise there really is little point,

Yes, whilst my views on getting to the premiership hover between not being bothered to active dislike I think that partly a result of my having seen City play (once) at the top level.

The sheer pleasure of promotion to the top league for all those fans who have never seen us up there far outweighs the negative feelings those of us who can remember football before the premiership started have about the current state of the top division.

30 minutes ago, Selred said:

That's unfair. Dele has made it to the VERY top, against all the odds. He's had many many struggles but you don't get to where he is / was without the right attitude. Unfortunately demons have caught up with him, but so different to Bakinson.

I don't see how it's unfair.

I know from how difficult a background Dele came and how well he did despite that but he has entirely lost it now.

That's the parallel, he has no future in higher league football because of his own actions.

2 hours ago, The Humble Realist said:

People were hailing him as a super star when he first came into our team.

Shows how temperamental early player exposure can be in a first team.

Clearly has some talent but letting himself down. Hopefully he turns it round eventually. 

Nah.

I remember years back watching my local team and there was a player, Spencer somebody, who played like Lee Trundle had somehow turned out for a school team.  He had superb close control and the only way for the opposition to negate him was to always have two players marking him.

I asked the obvious question of a regular supporter - why was he not playing at a higher level? - and the answer was bad attitude.

He had had trials at several league teams including Bristol City, I asked about that and he said that when he went there he was told to play out of position in the trial game.  He said he didn't play out of position and just went home.

There is no way back for these players and they bumble around the non league being the big fish in the small pond, a future which I expect awaits Delli Ali.

6 hours ago, Never to the dark side said:

Eddie Hitler

You did not reply to the posting about me knowing about the new EFL deal twelve months ago

regarding the items that secret Sam wants to give away I would be very interested in the paper cuttings

I missed that but know that you have the inside track on the media deals through attending AGMs and following any related news.

What a generous offer @SecretSam.

I know we have some keen collectors on here so it will be going to a good home.

2 hours ago, Numero Uno said:

When the Gas took 75 to Fleetwood and it was expressed as a percentage of their home support and then multiplied by the "nothing riding on the game" co-efficient it was actually the third highest away attendance in the history of the game....................

Spot on.

People get hung up on the headline numbers but fail to bring into account the multiple adjustment factors that have to brought in in order to transform that headline number into a correct, albeit theoretical, attendance figure.

When correctly adjusted, as you have just done, they have a genuinely awesome away support. We are very much not worthy.

The fatal, 34 people died, 1952 Lynmouth flood was thought to be caused by hamfisted attempts at cloud seeding by the RAF.

The rebuttal at the end doesn't entirely convince me.

A theory has spread that the flood was caused by secret cloud seeding experiments carried out by the Royal Air Force (RAF) between 1949 and 1952.[6][7][8]

The theory was fuelled by a 2001 BBC Radio 4 documentary, which suggested that the events of 1952 were connected to Project Cumulus. The programme alleged that "the infamous Lynmouth flood disaster came only days after RAF rain-making experiments over southern England", and that secret experiments were causing heavy rainfall.[6] According to the programme, "classified documents on the trials that Project Cumulus contributed to the conditions that caused this flood have gone missing".[6] A few days before the disaster a seeding experiment was carried out over southern England. Alan Yates, an aeronautical engineer and glider pilot who was working with the operation, sprayed salt in the air and was "elated" to learn of a heavy rainfall in Staines shortly after.[9]

"Survivors tell how the air smelled of sulphur on the afternoon of the floods, and the rain fell so hard it hurt people's faces."[6]

Meteorologist Philip Eden has said the experiments could not have caused the accident: "it is preposterous to blame the Lynmouth flood on such experiments".[10] Eden also said "The storm which caused the 1952 disaster was not confined to the Lynmouth district."[10] while in reality "The East and West Lyn rivers, which drop rapidly down from Exmoor, were swollen even before the fatal storm

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lynmouth_Flood

I used to know a few Germans from work and they loved English football grounds for their atmosphere because their grounds had a running track between the stands and the pitch so that they weren't close to the action.

A decent amount of terracing for those who wish to stand always adds to the atmosphere.

Good stewarding.  If you leave your seat you keep w\lking, you don't stop and block either the view of those sitting or the exit.

10 minutes ago, astrondrew said:

I certainly don't mean to.

Amen. Nice to have the option to listen to people talk about it occasionally on the radio too.

Good to finish on a reasonable position from each.

23 minutes ago, astrondrew said:

*Checks original post of the thread.

Look at the tone of your post and your fellow travellers.

You are painting people who disagree with you as the extremists when all the unreasonable posts are from those who think we should all be taking interest in the women's team.

The reasonable position is actually that it should be optional.

27 minutes ago, astrondrew said:

Do would I. It's about Bristol City football.

Which for most people comprises the the men's first team with some interest in the U23s and youth as reserves or players of the future.

I know those of us who aren't interested in women's football, which is a clear majority, are often painted as being the extremists but I would say on this thread that it's the women's football fans who are throwing their toys out of the pram that people have the sheer temerity not to share their interest.

41 minutes ago, astrondrew said:

It's a shame that some are so vehemently against women's football but I don't mind them forcing their opinions on us all.

 

There don't seem to be any examples of anyone "vehemently against" women's football, just a lot of people who are not interested in it.

As I am also not interested in Formula 1 racing.

I would also object if Formula 1 was covered in SOTC.

3 minutes ago, shahanshahan said:

And Sound of the City is a dedicated show to Bristol City. One episode just happens to focus more on City Women (a team that is in the top flight in a league with more exposure than ever) and people are losing their minds...

Hardly that.  Rather objecting to tuning in to hear about one team and then being told about another one in the middle of it.

Though I have cherry picked from what is a very balanced post with which I mostly agree.

As an analogy I think a lot of us were fed up with hearing about Yeovil on Saturday afternoons or TTB on the RB frequency when they were in the league because they are a Somerset club and should instead be covered on BBC Radio Somerset, leaving RB for Bristol clubs.

I'm not against Yeovil, but I don't support them so am not much interested in their day to day activities.

5 minutes ago, Sir Geoff said:

That's exactly the point being made. The women should have their own show, then we wouldn't have a shortened programme for the men's team.

Out of reactions but yes.

It's easy to do:

6.00 - 6.45 Sound of the City - men's first team

6.45 - 7.00 Sound of the City - women's first team

Radio Bristol isn't a commercial broadcaster so it doesn't matter what the listening figures are and they won't be disclosed.

I usually listen on Sounds so have to skip the women's football segment which is an inexact science given that there are no chapters.

9 minutes ago, Barrs Court Red said:

Yes, but they’re not the men’s team are they. 
 

Lets not forget how the owner ditched the original women’s team like a hot potatoe when it wasn’t commercially viable. 

Yes, but to be fair the men's team is far more commercially unviable unless and until it breaks into the Premiership and stays there.

3 minutes ago, Bristol Oil Services said:

I believe that the ladies were trying to establish their game a century ago but ran into some ... difficulties with the, er, blokes at the FA (otherwise they might be a bit more, stand alone, by now)

And also during the last war when there many very successful women's teams.

It's a proper sport with its own support, it's the passing off by the media that irriates me.

6 minutes ago, shahanshahan said:

As Nigel Pearson once said, the women's team are also a first team, just like the men's...

But if you have no interest in that team then you don't want it mixed in with the coverage, either in Sound of the City or online news, of the team in which you are interested.

You are welcome to support both of course but most people do not and this should be recognised, on here by having a separate subforum now that the "Ignore threads" functionality doesn't work.

15 minutes ago, View from the Dolman said:

Are Bristol City Cerebral Palsy FC, Bristol City Deaf FC, Bristol City Down Syndrome FC and Bristol City Frame FC (who all featured in some form on Saturday) also "leeching"?

They are, but nobody minds that, and as I have said on a previous post I don't mind the women's team being funded as it probably costs less than half a first team player's wages.

What they are not however doing is passing themselves off as Bristol City.

9 hours ago, Graham76 said:

Why can’t the women’s team have their own separate show? We got 5 minutes of Dave speaking on a bad line and that was it. 

Because the listening figures, like the gate receipts, would be miniscule.

I am all for women's football becoming successful in its own right but at present it is parasitically leeching money and press coverage from the well supported football team that has been going for over a century.

It should stand, or fall, on its own two feet instead of the current situation of mixing in (women's players in the men's calendar) and passing off: "Bristol City" beat "Arsenal".

57 minutes ago, bs3 said:

Two separate teams , if Radio Bristol want to do a show about Bristol City women they should have their own show. I switched off because I have no interest in the women’s team .  Does the Rovers programme talk feature their women’s team ?    

Is  a one hour football show dedicated to Bristol City on our local broadcaster to much to ask for 

Yes.

Usually it's the last twenty minutes so it just serves to shorten the show for me.

In another business this would be regarded as "passing off" or copyright infringement.

Good luck to them and I'm glad that their fans enjoy it but please stop foisting it upon the rest of us.

1 hour ago, Cityboy1954 said:

What a load of tosh tonight all about the womens team Dave pottier was on briefly but so say a bad line had to turn off very disappointing. .

Thanks, saves my bothering this week.

The Wurzels are superb, but it isn't compulsory for all Bristol City fans to like them.

2 minutes ago, phantom said:

A little bit I can add, the club are still waiting for confirmation on how the new kick off days and times will impact us, but we are set to get an additional £2.5m from the deal - which clearly makes up for lost attendances

But the assumption is a side will be live at least 20 times over the season

That's almost seven Tillsons!

Ker-ching

May I just note how hugely disappointed I am that ourt expert in the world of sports broadcasting, @Never to the dark side, didn't start this topic