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  1. 15 minutes ago, View from the Dolman said:

    Are Bristol City Cerebral Palsy FC, Bristol City Deaf FC, Bristol City Down Syndrome FC and Bristol City Frame FC (who all featured in some form on Saturday) also "leeching"?

     

    They are, but nobody minds that, and as I have said on a previous post I don't mind the women's team being funded as it probably costs less than half a first team player's wages.

    What they are not however doing is passing themselves off as Bristol City.

     

     

  2. 9 hours ago, Graham76 said:

    Why can’t the women’s team have their own separate show? We got 5 minutes of Dave speaking on a bad line and that was it. 

     

    Because the listening figures, like the gate receipts, would be miniscule.

    I am all for women's football becoming successful in its own right but at present it is parasitically leeching money and press coverage from the well supported football team that has been going for over a century.

    It should stand, or fall, on its own two feet instead of the current situation of mixing in (women's players in the men's calendar) and passing off: "Bristol City" beat "Arsenal".

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  3. 57 minutes ago, bs3 said:

    Two separate teams , if Radio Bristol want to do a show about Bristol City women they should have their own show. I switched off because I have no interest in the women’s team .  Does the Rovers programme talk feature their women’s team ?    

    Is  a one hour football show dedicated to Bristol City on our local broadcaster to much to ask for 

     

    Yes.

    Usually it's the last twenty minutes so it just serves to shorten the show for me.

    In another business this would be regarded as "passing off" or copyright infringement.

    Good luck to them and I'm glad that their fans enjoy it but please stop foisting it upon the rest of us.

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  4. 1 hour ago, Cityboy1954 said:

    What a load of tosh tonight all about the womens team Dave pottier was on briefly but so say a bad line had to turn off very disappointing. .

     

    Thanks, saves my bothering this week.

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  5. 2 minutes ago, phantom said:

    A little bit I can add, the club are still waiting for confirmation on how the new kick off days and times will impact us, but we are set to get an additional £2.5m from the deal - which clearly makes up for lost attendances

    But the assumption is a side will be live at least 20 times over the season

     

    That's almost seven Tillsons!

    Ker-ching

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  6. Football club accounts now published, the ones for teh 1883 company are still awaited and will be more interesting as they carry the debt owed to Dwane Sports.

    Operating perforamce is similar to he previous year at a £3m loss which thse days is unremarkable for a third tier club.

    The only big change over the previous year is the appearance of third party debt, though we already knew about that.

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  7. 3 minutes ago, GrahamC said:

    What’s weird to me is Gaschat is now full of people now slagging Barton off.

    The vast majority loved the thug when he was there, absolute revisionism from start to finish.

     

    I can't quote numbers but there were a lot against him, even to the point of refusing to go, and those supporting him were only doing so because he was the current manager.

    When he went there was nothing like the outrage amongst City fans when Nige went.

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  8. 38 minutes ago, petehinton said:

    I honestly can’t believe Tom Gormidge hasn’t been sacked from that place. It’s truly hilarious the amount he’s overseen that continues to make them an absolute joke

     

    I'm sure I read on gaschat that he had been given the push, just his director resignation form hasn't been filed yet.

    When the accounts are finally filed that will show if that is the case as it lists current directors.

     

    Edit: it isn't definitive but covered in this thread.

    https://gasheads.org/thread/11776/tom-gorringe-left-building

     

  9. 3 hours ago, ExiledAjax said:

    If he stops funding at Holdings level yes.

    But it's BCFC Ltd that trades as the football entity in terms of transfers, holds player registrations, owns the share in the EFL and gets promoted, relegated, and receives that football income. Isn't it possible that an owner could, for some reason, cease to fund that BCFC side of the Holdings group, but continue backing the AG Ltd side?

    BCFC then goes into administration, and the stadium isn't involved in that insolvency.

     

    That was precisely the reason for the structure coming into place, the football club company could go bust but the ground wouldn't form part of any liquidation and so a phoenix football club could be started up with a ground already in place.

    Of course an unscrupulous or desperate owner could lose the ground as well by borrowing with a charge against it or, in the case of Kevin Healey, property developer and erstwhile owner of Truro City, actually selling the ground without telling anybody.

    It is now a a big Lidl. Truro City still have no ground.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/19371372

     

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  10. 4 minutes ago, supercidered said:

    When I saw that you had replied to my last post. I suddenly thought that you were going to say you were a Councillor on Torbay Council. 😆

    The problem here is that there is nothing to say Torbay Council won't build houses on it. This has to be the end game in some shape or form i.e. the new owners given land elsewhere to build a new ground for TUFC. Maybe I'm just a cynical old git.

     

    :D

    Maybe so, but the council has done the right thing thus far so I'll give them the benefit of the doubt.

    Meanwhile the football club killer seeks their next victim.

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  11. 6 minutes ago, supercidered said:

    I think you give Torbay Council far too much credit Eddie.

     

    I can't say that I have been following the saga closely but this is from Feb 2024 and says that the council had very sensibly refused to sell Osborne the freehold.

     

    The Gulls’s Plainmoor ground is owned by the council and leased to the club under and agreement which has nearly 60 years still to run.

    Previous owner Clarke Osborne, who stood down last week, had wanted to build the club a new stadium away from Plainmoor. But the council had been adamant that Plainmoor itself is not for sale, and Mr Osborne would never be able to build homes on it.

    https:w//www.torbayweekly.co.uk/news/home/1435351/council-pledges-to-be-an-anchor-for-torquay-united.html

     

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  12. Any sensible potential buyer will wait until the club goes into administration before making an offer as then they are negotiating with the administrator who will sell much more cheaply than the owner, as the owner has already lost their money and only the creditors have a vote on each bid.

    I don't know why people are surprised that Torquay have gone into administration as this almost always happens and it is actually a better deal for the club's future as the buyer's money goes purely to the creditors and not to the previous owner.

     

    Also AFAIK the freehold on Plainmoor is owned by the council and the strategy of the previous owners was to have this transferred to them, which didn't happen as the councillors are not retarded.

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  13. 18 minutes ago, Swede said:

    I mean all joking aside, that is terrible. How anyone can provide "facilities" like this and deem it acceptable is beyond me.

     

    I worked with a Plymouth season ticket holder, each season a group of them used to have an away weekend at a game.

    One season they were in the same league as Rovers for the first time for a few years and I asked if they were going there, given how close it was.

    He said that the facilities for away fans were so poor the last time they had gone that they had decided not to go back there until the ground was rebuilt.

    Similarly I went to watch City at Brighton in an evening game when they were still at the Goldstone Ground. It was terrible, the terraces were crumbling to the extent that some had to be roped off for safety and the toilets were swimming in piss. I was never going to go there again, though TBF they were in their last season there as the ground had been sold.

    It does make a difference.

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  14. Having mulled over this the likeliest scenario, that the registers weren't kept properly up to date, makes these corrections a non-event.

    The correct shareholders haven't missed out on any dividends and any voting rights missed wouldn't have made a difference to Board decisions.

    It's also not unknown, I was assigned to update the shareholder register of a very well known listed company and the first thing I was told was not to try to reconcile it as it won't reconcile, this was being worked on as a separate exercise, but just to book the changes.

    The company didn't know that its shareholder register was wrong, albeit only in a very small way.

     

    An outside chance though is that there is a more fundamental error in that substantial shareholdings have actually been missed, there will then be a prior year adjustment in the accounts and possibly the last two takeover deals will be revisited. If you paid for a 75% shareholding but only received 70% then you will want some of your money back.

    As I say though this is highly unlikely and, if the accounts had actually been filed when they were meant to be filed, then this option could be easily shown to be incorrect.

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  15. I noticed an oddity in that the 2020 and 2021 Confirmation ststemenst have been re-filed.

    In the 2021 refiling nothing shows up but in the 2020 refiling there look to have been major changes to the shareholdings of some individuals, the below being the most obvious change.

    I assume that is connected to the change of firm being their Company Secretary, who upon taking it over have realised that the register of shareholders is wrong.

    Hmm.

    https://find-and-update.company-information.service.gov.uk/company/04501223/filing-history?page=1

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  16. Their accounts are late again.

    BRISTOL ROVERS (1883) LIMITED

    Company number 04501223

    Registered office address
    The Memorial Stadium, Filton Avenue, Horfield, Bristol, BS7 0BF
    Company status
    Active
    Company type
    Private limited Company
    Incorporated on
    1 August 2002

    Accounts overdue

    Next accounts made up to 30 June 2023
    due by 31 March 2024

    Last accounts made up to 30 June 2022

     

    https://find-and-update.company-information.service.gov.uk/company/04501223

     

    That's currently a £150 fine doubled to £300 as they were late last year.

    £750 if they don't file by the end of April.

    Max £3k if they go over six months.

    https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/late-filing-penalties/late-filing-penalties

     

    This doesn't mean they're in trouble and the amounts aren't material but it suggests that the back office is a shambles, based on their past behaviour they probably have an unpaid intern trying to make sense of their accounts.

    City doesn't file late accounts, Steve as a business man knows the importance of a good back office.

     

     

    Edit: and double those already doubled fines because the football club subsidiary hasn't filed yet either.

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  17. 56 minutes ago, TV Tom said:

    My god, there’s some touchy sods on here, what’s this forum coming to?

     

    Yes.

    It was a throwaway line rather than a personal attack as it has been taken as being. It's not like you know the guy.

    A humorous response noting war service would have been the appropriate response rather than a meltdown.

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