PHILINFRANCE Posted January 16, 2022 Report Share Posted January 16, 2022 Ever the optimist, what are the chances of Captain Joe Root leading England to a magnificent victory, and scoring a glorious, maiden Ashes century in Australia in the process? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red7 Posted January 16, 2022 Report Share Posted January 16, 2022 7 minutes ago, PHILINFRANCE said: Ever the optimist, what are the chances of Captain Joe Root leading England to a magnificent victory, and scoring a glorious, maiden Ashes century in Australia in the process? 0.01% Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red7 Posted January 16, 2022 Report Share Posted January 16, 2022 2 minutes ago, Red7 said: 0.01% Sorry, 0.00% 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHILINFRANCE Posted January 16, 2022 Report Share Posted January 16, 2022 2 minutes ago, Red7 said: Sorry, 0.00% Do I get a bonus point for top class jinxing? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lew-T Posted January 16, 2022 Report Share Posted January 16, 2022 Bollockless bunch of cricketers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lew-T Posted January 16, 2022 Report Share Posted January 16, 2022 Even McGrath sounds bored of England’s display. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted January 16, 2022 Report Share Posted January 16, 2022 Worst bunch I can remember. Silverwood can **** off for a start. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
And Its Smith Posted January 16, 2022 Report Share Posted January 16, 2022 This was lost in the first innings when we let them get 300 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted January 16, 2022 Report Share Posted January 16, 2022 1 minute ago, And Its Smith said: This was lost in the first innings when we let them get 300 The whole tour has come down to our pathetic batting. Bowlers have done pretty well on the whole. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted January 16, 2022 Report Share Posted January 16, 2022 68 -0..... 124 all out. There are no words. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lew-T Posted January 16, 2022 Report Share Posted January 16, 2022 Lost our 10 wickets in 22 overs... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red7 Posted January 16, 2022 Report Share Posted January 16, 2022 Well done to Broady for being not out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted January 16, 2022 Report Share Posted January 16, 2022 Probably the bowlers fault again. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lrrr Posted January 16, 2022 Report Share Posted January 16, 2022 They might make the same flight as Malan now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B1ackbird Posted January 16, 2022 Report Share Posted January 16, 2022 Will this give the ECB the green light to re structure the summer by scrapping the blast and just having the Hundred? I wouldn't put it past those duplicitous ***** Perhaps I'm just pissed off with it . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
And Its Smith Posted January 16, 2022 Report Share Posted January 16, 2022 12 minutes ago, Super said: The whole tour has come down to our pathetic batting. Bowlers have done pretty well on the whole. Yea I meant with how poor our batters are, it was game over after their innings 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northern Red Posted January 16, 2022 Report Share Posted January 16, 2022 The faults with structure, coaching etc have been well documented and need urgent action, this has to be a watershed moment. However, that today was nothing to do with any of that, it was purely lack of application and stomach for a battle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cidercity1987 Posted January 16, 2022 Report Share Posted January 16, 2022 ******* crap They wanna stick numbers 1 to 7 in the stocks at Heathrow and throw eggs at them Open top bus tour for winning, take the punishment for humiliation Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northern Red Posted January 16, 2022 Report Share Posted January 16, 2022 Special mention has to go to Sam Billings. If Buttler or Bairstow had come up with a pair of dismissals like that in the same match there'd be calls for them to never play for England again. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
And Its Smith Posted January 16, 2022 Report Share Posted January 16, 2022 1 hour ago, Northern Red said: Special mention has to go to Sam Billings. If Buttler or Bairstow had come up with a pair of dismissals like that in the same match there'd be calls for them to never play for England again. Very harsh for a man making his debut in the circumstances he made it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted January 16, 2022 Report Share Posted January 16, 2022 5 hours ago, Northern Red said: Special mention has to go to Sam Billings. If Buttler or Bairstow had come up with a pair of dismissals like that in the same match there'd be calls for them to never play for England again. Pope 2nd innings must rival that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BanburyRed Posted January 16, 2022 Report Share Posted January 16, 2022 Having just watched the highlights.......absolutely lost for words Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHILINFRANCE Posted January 17, 2022 Report Share Posted January 17, 2022 An excellent, if somewhat scathing article by Tanya Aldred. https://www.theguardian.com/sport/blog/2022/jan/16/england-are-collapse-specialists-but-hobart-ignominy-sets-new-low Interestingly, she writes: Wouldn’t it, you found yourself thinking to yourself, against all odds and the evidence of the last four Tests, be something for Joe Root to win the game and salvage something from the series with that longed-for Australian Ashes hundred? Fool! Great Minds, and all that.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tin Posted January 17, 2022 Report Share Posted January 17, 2022 Aggers is usually bang on the money and while I agree it’s time for radical change, I’m not sure this is the way to go. https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cricket/60016410 Glos and Somerset to merge into Wessex, for example, in a new 10-team first-class county setup? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Globe Trotter Posted January 17, 2022 Report Share Posted January 17, 2022 Focus needs to return to Test cricket for the ECB and it needs to be the ongoing priority. The review and changes to our one day cricket were needed after the 2015 World Cup but our T20 / ODI team is now one of the best in the world and will continue to be. As new, young players come through they will be used to this aggressive, expansive form of cricket and I see no reason why we won’t continue to thrive. In short, if it’s not broke don’t fix it. Test cricket as the name suggests is a mental and physical test over 5 days, often in unfamiliar conditions and can include being away from home for months at a time. We need to do all we can to prepare players for this rather than chuck them in at India or Australia and hope for the best. I hope there are changes for the upcoming WI tour, the England camp seems to comfy for one. Get Kirsten in and identify players who have the temperament as much as the skill to succeed in Test cricket. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tin Posted January 17, 2022 Report Share Posted January 17, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, TomF said: I ******* despair at this. What we need to be doing is prioritising the CC not killing it off. I can see the potential benefits, but I'd rather my county (Glos) wasn't taken away from me when we're finally looking like we mean business. As far as Aggers' proposal goes, we already have a 10-team First Division of County Cricket. How would an 8-team Second Division going down to three days (from four) benefit the Test XI, especially when there are some big counties in it? I loathe The 100 and franchise sport in general, and the concept of potentially rewarding some of the big ground counties (Glamorgan being a prime example) turns my stomach. Edited January 17, 2022 by tin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nbafc Posted January 17, 2022 Report Share Posted January 17, 2022 I've perhaps misjudged Agnew's piece, but I'm not sure he believes that is what should happen, rather as a bit of a grenade/talking point. He also points out where responsibilities lie during this debacle of a tour Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichaelRobartes Posted January 17, 2022 Report Share Posted January 17, 2022 Apart from anything else, I don't understand how you can hope to aid development and increase your player pool by almost halving the amount of First Class sides. Makes no sense. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calculus Posted January 17, 2022 Report Share Posted January 17, 2022 (edited) 3 hours ago, TomF said: I ******* despair at this. What we need to be doing is prioritising the CC not killing it off. I can sympathise with your view, but County Cricket just isn't producing battle hardened Test players for England these days. Contrast this with Sheffield Shield in Australia where just 6 teams play the sort of cricket that produces Test players. In England we have gone for one day comps, the blast, the hundred all to attract spectators and generate cash to support the existing structure. If you want to see the best players you'll see them in these comps and rarely in the county champs, where red ball contracted test players don't even play anymore. Much as I've loved county cricket I can see that it's no longer fit for purpose, doesn't produce Test players, is of little interest and attracts a diminishing number of spectators. Perhaps reducing the number of counties would be sensible, which would leave space for the money making stuff, and also make sure that the best players play in the 4 day game against the best opposition. Edited January 17, 2022 by Calculus Typos 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northern Red Posted January 17, 2022 Report Share Posted January 17, 2022 I was at a sportsman's charity dinner about 3 years ago where Agnew was the guest speaker and did a Q&A. The subject of county cricket was raised and he thought it was inevitable that the number of counties would reduce at some point. He made the point that his own county Leicestershire would likely be one of the prime casualties so he had no desire to see it happen, but he couldn't see how all of them could remain competitive and viable long term. He was also very much not in favour of the Hundred, though his view may have changed since. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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