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EmersonsRed

Whether you believe in the manager or not...

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hodge    1,946

I just hope that when the inevitable loss does come, that people don't resort to type and go ott, although I suppose it wouldn't be otib then.... 

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Fordy62    9,061

OTIB is overly positive with a win and overly negative with a loss, it's one of life's guaranteed facts. 

Tonight I think we're just reflective. 

 

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RedDave    4,190
15 minutes ago, EmersonsRed said:

Certainly time to start believing in this group of players we have at our disposal. Becoming much harder to beat, not backing down to a challenge, heads aren't dropping like they have in recent years. Lots to be positive about.

Johnson changed the shape and we were instantly better.  Big credit to him.

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Kodjias Wrist    1,129

The worst reactions i saw on here was the Reading and Cardiff defeats at home last season.

Had we of conceded a late goal this place would have gone off. "We can't keep a lead" and "We all saw it coming why couldn't LJ" and "LJ's a **** for this and that". 

I've been guilty of it, its just the way football fans are. 

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1960maaan    2,736
20 minutes ago, hodge said:

I just hope that when the inevitable loss does come, that people don't resort to type and go ott, although I suppose it wouldn't be otib then.... 

Do you know what, Johnson is just sneaky and crafty enough not to lose for the rest of the season just to try and stop us moaning. As if that would stop us :blink:

9 minutes ago, RedDave said:

Johnson changed the shape and we were instantly better.  Big credit to him.

Something I have wanted him to do for some time. We now have the players to play a 3 and be balanced, far play to LJ to do it early enough. 

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hodge    1,946

Reading was truly awful though, I can still remember being in my seat and saying while level 'we'll concede in a minute' and we actually did, it just became so predictable. 

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hodge    1,946
2 minutes ago, 1960maaan said:

Do you know what, Johnson is just sneaky and crafty enough not to lose for the rest of the season just to try and stop us moaning. As if that would stop us :blink:

Something I have wanted him to do for some time. We now have the players to play a 3 and be balanced, far play to LJ to do it early enough. 

Some would find something to have a moan about regardless

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shelts    1,720

We're little Bristol City and we is doing ok. Massively early to get carried away as we all know the Championship is a marathon not a sprint . 

The test ain't over as it's Derby home Saturday , god this league is relentless.  

Sleep tight . COYR 

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hodge    1,946
6 minutes ago, JamesBCFC said:

Must... Resist... Temptation... To tag a certain poster.

Now who could that be...... :shifty:

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Red-Robbo    6,383
1 hour ago, EmersonsRed said:

Certainly time to start believing in this group of players we have at our disposal. Becoming much harder to beat, not backing down to a challenge, heads aren't dropping like they have in recent years. Lots to be positive about.

******* A, man. 

We can all see the occasional weakness, but one thing I'll never accuse anyone out there nowadays is not giving their all. They are consummate professionals. 

When you hear all the jabber about "DNA" and "fitting in the system" it sounds like corporate bullshit, but one thing you've got to say about the current regime is it requires players to buy into it. They are a unit. 

Early days, but I've been pleasantly surprised.

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WTFiGO!?!    1,679

Actions, or in football results speak louder than words.

We've just taken four points from Reading and Wolves away.  

It is not ott or reactionary to be positive about that in the same way that it is not ott or to be reactionary in being critical after a disappointing point and poor game at home verses Millwall and a less than pro-active point at home verses Aston Villa.  

Brentford was crap and people said it was crap.

What is there to belittle people who are really only calling it as they see it?  One game at a time and all that. . . .

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exAtyeoMax    1,826
8 hours ago, RedDave said:

Johnson changed the shape and we were instantly better.  Big credit to him.

That was one of the biggest criticisms from last season, so happy he/they did change it early on. (I missed what the change was, can someone enlighten me?)

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Silvio Dante    950
11 minutes ago, glos old boy said:

Season 16/17 = 7 games 10pts; Season 17/18 = 7 games 10pts;

If you can't see this is more about the way those points were attained giving optimism then I feel sorry for you.

Statistics are all that matter in the end, but they don't show the route you're on 

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Thatch35    315
8 hours ago, EmersonsRed said:

Certainly time to start believing in this group of players we have at our disposal. Becoming much harder to beat, not backing down to a challenge, heads aren't dropping like they have in recent years. Lots to be positive about.

Swings and roundabouts maybe at the moment. Everyone was saying how great the defense is....well last night the defending was shocking. Upfront - no goal threat, but others in the team chipping in which is not common from City.

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RedDave    4,190
13 minutes ago, exAtyeoMax said:

That was one of the biggest criticisms from last season, so happy he/they did change it early on. (I missed what the change was, can someone enlighten me?)

Went from 4-4-1-1 to 5-3-2

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JonDolman    1,045
24 minutes ago, glos old boy said:

Season 16/17 = 7 games 10pts; Season 17/18 = 7 games 10pts;

Yep. Decent start last season. Decent start this season.

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Dolman Block B    418
9 hours ago, EmersonsRed said:

Certainly time to start believing in this group of players we have at our disposal. Becoming much harder to beat, not backing down to a challenge, heads aren't dropping like they have in recent years. Lots to be positive about.

Who would of thought that we would go to 

Watford, Brentford, Reading, Wolves, and not get beaten by any of them?

That really is excellent form, something that would have definately not have happened last season.

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Midlands Robin    776

So far we've played really well and got results, played poorly and salvaged results, played well and came away with a draw, played ok and lost and occasionally played really badly. I think the team is still settling down but the most positive thing is that we are currently 12th in the table and that looks realistic. I'm convinced this year won't be a struggle as last year was. Yes there are areas that we need to work on and Pisano's injury has unsettled the defence a bit (as was shown by last nights goals) and while Bobby's performance so far this season has been great, he needs more help up front, I don't think any one can suggest we are not a better side this season.  

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El Hombrecito    775
44 minutes ago, Thatch35 said:

Swings and roundabouts maybe at the moment. Everyone was saying how great the defense is....well last night the defending was shocking. Upfront - no goal threat, but others in the team chipping in which is not common from City.

Are you this miserable about everything in life, or just City?

Go on, try and concentrate on the positives, you'll be much happier, I promise... :yes:

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Dollymarie    7,787
5 minutes ago, El Hombrecito said:

Are you this miserable about everything in life, or just City?

Go on, try and concentrate on the positives, you'll be much happier, I promise... :yes:

Probably too busy planning his next boo ;) 

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cidered abroad    3,082
41 minutes ago, Dolman Block B said:

Who would of thought that we would go to 

Watford, Brentford, Reading, Wolves, and not get beaten by any of them?

That really is excellent form, something that would have definately not have happened last season.

That's why the defeat at the Brum Scum really hurt!

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Robbored    4,189

I posted on another thread a few days ago that in all years I've been going to AG that I'd never felt that the club is as healthy as it is now off the pitch and that if/when performances on the pitch could match that then the club would be making serious progress.

The win at Reading and draw last night convinced men that things on the pitch are improving. Those two games are both that City would have lost not so long ago and to get 4 points from 6 is a healthy return - if only City could defend a corner.......:whistle: we could have been looking at max points.

I feel really positive about the state of the club right now and SL deserves credit for employing the right professionals to run the ship.

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glynriley    5,027

 

1 hour ago, Thatch35 said:

Swings and roundabouts maybe at the moment. Everyone was saying how great the defense is....well last night the defending was shocking. Upfront - no goal threat, but others in the team chipping in which is not common from City.

 

26 minutes ago, El Hombrecito said:

Are you this miserable about everything in life, or just City?

Go on, try and concentrate on the positives, you'll be much happier, I promise... :yes:

 

23 minutes ago, Dollymarie said:

Probably too busy planning his next boo ;) 

Great Boo's up Edmund...

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1 hour ago, Thatch35 said:

Swings and roundabouts maybe at the moment. Everyone was saying how great the defense is....well last night the defending was shocking. Upfront - no goal threat, but others in the team chipping in which is not common from City.

Goals are not always conceded because of shocking defending - sometimes it is because of the quality of the opposition.  We were playing a very good team last night and we competed and came out with a point.  Hard to think of any negatives about that.

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Kodjias Wrist    1,129
58 minutes ago, Thatch35 said:

Swings and roundabouts maybe at the moment. Everyone was saying how great the defense is....well last night the defending was shocking. Upfront - no goal threat, but others in the team chipping in which is not common from City.

Wolves have one of the best teams on paper and have that quality going forward. The way we were set up for a tough away game, it was never going to be easy.

You say up front we have no goal threat yet we scored three goals and one of them from our forward bobby. Out of all the teams we have played so far who had a real goal threat up front? Doesn't really matter as long as we are a threat in the final third.

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Phileas Fogg    7,937
3 minutes ago, Kodjias Wrist said:

Wolves have one of the best teams on paper and have that quality going forward. The way we were set up for a tough away game, it was never going to be easy.

You say up front we have no goal threat yet we scored three goals and one of them from our forward bobby. Out of all the teams we have played so far who had a real goal threat up front? Doesn't really matter as long as we are a threat in the final third.

Diedhiou scored yesterday too and is on course to get 13 goals if he maintains this current average scoring record. Bobby Reid is the league's too scorer.. none of that is important though because Thatch35 from OTIB says we have 'no goal threat'.

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TDarwall    77

As Bobby Reid is the leagues top goal scorer & Jamie Paterson is matching Neymar for assists, you can't really say we lack a goal threat up front?

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RedRoss    240
1 hour ago, Silvio Dante said:

If you can't see this is more about the way those points were attained giving optimism then I feel sorry for you.

Statistics are all that matter in the end, but they don't show the route you're on 

This.

The manner in which way we have reached these points this season is way more important - We look so much more solid and have the bit between our teeth as opposed to last season where we really did rely on Tammy's goals. 

 

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Thatch35    315
31 minutes ago, El Hombrecito said:

Are you this miserable about everything in life, or just City?

Go on, try and concentrate on the positives, you'll be much happier, I promise... :yes:

How about replying to the content of my post.

 

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Thatch35    315
4 minutes ago, TDarwall said:

As Bobby Reid is the leagues top goal scorer & Jamie Paterson is matching Neymar for assists, you can't really say we lack a goal threat up front?

And LJ drops Jamine Patterson...:laugh:.

Didn't know Patterson had been playing 'upfront'.

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El Hombrecito    775
4 minutes ago, Thatch35 said:

How about replying to the content of my post.

 

I did. The content of your post was overly negative. I replied regarding your negativity. 

I was genuinely asking as you don't seem to find positives in anything at all. That must be tiring.

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GasDestroyer    480

LJ has to the keep the momentum going now. Something to build on. There is no doubt that Tomlin was a bad influence on the side last year. Real shame as plenty of talent, but he was not a team player.

This side appears to be up for a fight and will not roll over like last season. Lots of positives for me. Wolves are a good side and we did compete. COYRs.

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RedRoss    240
1 hour ago, Thatch35 said:

Swings and roundabouts maybe at the moment. Everyone was saying how great the defense is....well last night the defending was shocking. Upfront - no goal threat, but others in the team chipping in which is not common from City.

Individual mistakes don't make a defence bad especially when playing a team like Wolves who have spent 40/50 million on players this last year. We've conceded 9 goals which is bang average for the champ at the moment and 3 of those against arguably the best forwards we may face this season.

Your next statement is ridiculous - I'm just gonna post this.. 

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/championship/top-scorers

(enough said)

You just like the attention of being a angry slapper (my opposite to the happy-clapper that gets banded about if your positive)

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simon uk    481

I think someone else mentioned above that we just look solid and hard to beat. In this league, we all know anyone can beat anyone else, and if wolves had snatched a winner last night, i dont think too many will have been overly critical if we have given it a right good go. ive been openly critical of lj, and him being kept on after last season, but there is much more steel to us now than last year. Just hope that we can keep this trait all season, and not go off like last year.

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Fat Cigar    551
40 minutes ago, cidered abroad said:

That's why the defeat at the Brum Scum really hurt!

I think I'm going to be grumbling about that one all season! Everyone knows they're crap. They know they're crap. And it's wonderful to see them struggling. 

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Alessandro    1,779
40 minutes ago, The Dolman Pragmatist said:

Goals are not always conceded because of shocking defending - sometimes it is because of the quality of the opposition.  We were playing a very good team last night and we competed and came out with a point.  Hard to think of any negatives about that.

This is something I always say, not enough credit is given to the opposition in games.

Reading a few comments recently saying things like "not vintage City", or "decent performance, but not great" and I think too often people's expectations are just too much? 

That vintage performance will happen a few times a season for most teams in this league. The rest of the time we will be scraping for points along with the vast majority of teams. 

We are doing that right now and getting results and points without really hitting top gear. 

If you watch plenty of championship football, I think you'll see, on average, teams at the bottom scraping for points with rare moments of quality in a game, teams in the middle scraping having a few moments of quality in a game and teams at the top scraping with several moments of quality in a game.

Is it too soon too mention 'fine margins'?!? ;)

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Jack Dawe    3,954
45 minutes ago, Thatch35 said:

And LJ drops Jamine Patterson...:laugh:.

Didn't know Patterson had been playing 'upfront'.

Rotated Paterson, Thatch. Rotated.

Get with the programme/project, Thatch. This is a good year to be a City fan.

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RedSA    947
58 minutes ago, Thatch35 said:

And LJ drops Jamine Patterson...:laugh:.

Didn't know Patterson had been playing 'upfront'.

Are these what you're grasping for? 59b8f5b85e868_ScreenShot2017-09-13at10_10_39.thumb.png.179f3886d3fa671eda622b1b7408f93e.png

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hoxton casual    144
2 hours ago, glos old boy said:

Season 16/17 = 7 games 10pts; Season 17/18 = 7 games 10pts;

if I recall correctly - and if I don't, some kind person may correct me - whilst  we got results last year early in the season, the performances were weak and flattered by Tammy's goals. The interesting stat I would like to see is about chances created. Last year we couldn't defend a 3 -0 lead but we could create and put them away.

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handsofclay    1,737
1 hour ago, Phileas Fogg said:

Diedhiou scored yesterday too and is on course to get 13 goals if he maintains this current average scoring record. Bobby Reid is the league's too scorer.. none of that is important though because Thatch35 from OTIB says we have 'no goal threat'.

Don't forget that this is the same Thatch35 who after the Barnsley game said that Bobby Reid could only score against non-league teams and compared Barnsley to a non-league team. Obviously, since that goal another 4 teams have proven themselves to be non-league the latest being Wolves last night.

He said that all the opposition had to do was stop Bobby Reid scoring and City would be up a certain creak without the proverbial paddle. Well, City scored three yesterday and only one came from Bobby, who thankfully, the opponents again failed to simply stop him from scoring.

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I was very angry about what happened to Pembo and MA's bullshit explanation didn't help but have to own up and say McAlistair has made a significant difference. He's Mr Positive and this plus his gravitas and nouse seems to have inspired the players and he must also be influencing LJ.? eg in his interview nonchalantly mentions the change of shape which worked last night. Very well done all.

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Phileas Fogg    7,937
5 minutes ago, southvillekiddy said:

I was very angry about what happened to Pembo and MA's bullshit explanation didn't help but have to own up and say McAlistair has made a significant difference. He's Mr Positive and this plus his gravitas and nouse seems to have inspired the players and he must also be influencing LJ.? eg in his interview nonchalantly mentions the change of shape which worked last night. Very well done all.

I reckon there's more to Pemberton's departure than we know. He wasn't 'LJ's man' and obviously LJ would want his own people around him. 

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Thatch35    315
2 hours ago, El Hombrecito said:

I did. The content of your post was overly negative. I replied regarding your negativity. 

I was genuinely asking as you don't seem to find positives in anything at all. That must be tiring.

Its not 'my negativity' its a comment on fact, no emotions involved. Its just your misunderstanding and rushing into replies without thinking.

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