MC RISK77 Posted April 29, 2018 Report Share Posted April 29, 2018 Strange decision to ever go there In the first place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoons Posted April 29, 2018 Report Share Posted April 29, 2018 As read. Another expensive pay off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bard Posted April 29, 2018 Report Share Posted April 29, 2018 Not the man to take them to League 2. Job for Cotts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
22A Posted April 29, 2018 Report Share Posted April 29, 2018 5 minutes ago, MC RISK77 said: Strange decision to ever go there In the first place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cityloyal473 Posted April 29, 2018 Report Share Posted April 29, 2018 He was a fool to take it in the first place (and so too is the next person who takes up the hot seat there). Job for LJ with any luck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Coach Posted April 29, 2018 Report Share Posted April 29, 2018 Absolute shite manager who depended on Bale to get them where they were in the Euros. It was highly likely Sunderland would go down anyway. But with him it in charge it was guaranteed. No club should go near him if they had any sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gillies Downs Leeds Posted April 29, 2018 Report Share Posted April 29, 2018 Club being taken over by foreign consortium. Probably want their own man in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BanburyRed Posted April 29, 2018 Report Share Posted April 29, 2018 Incredibly strange decision to go there in the first place. Whether he was advised or made the decision alone. Deluded. I think he might struggle for another job in the immmediate short term. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 29, 2018 Report Share Posted April 29, 2018 Seems stupid to sack him now. Maybe he should have stayed at Wales but I guess he’d reached all he was ever going to manage with them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slartibartfast Posted April 29, 2018 Report Share Posted April 29, 2018 57 minutes ago, Red_Wizard said: Absolute shite manager You never see Coleman and Dean Saunders in the same room ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pongo88 Posted April 29, 2018 Report Share Posted April 29, 2018 I think this sums up Sunderland. It’s a shambles of a club where the people in charge don’t realise how bad the problem is. It needs a manager to be given time to get rid of the dead wood and sort out the mess. Simon Grayson and Chris Coleman didn’t have a chance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Coach Posted April 29, 2018 Report Share Posted April 29, 2018 11 minutes ago, slartibartfast said: You never see Coleman and Dean Saunders in the same room ! Couldn’t think of anything worse. Both Welsh too! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lorenzos Only Goal Posted April 29, 2018 Report Share Posted April 29, 2018 The Welsh FA pay peanuts for managers, so getting sacked after x months at Sunderland = $$$$$ simple, I don't think we will see Coleman in another role now, he might go back the Wales when Giggs uses it as a stepping stone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicken George Posted April 29, 2018 Report Share Posted April 29, 2018 17 minutes ago, slartibartfast said: You never see Coleman and Dean Saunders in the same room ! True. Saunders, whilst a crap manager, is however a very interesting and funny character. So I do quite like him. Coleman though, is just an arrogant ***** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pickle Rick Posted April 29, 2018 Report Share Posted April 29, 2018 28 minutes ago, Tomarse said: Seems stupid to sack him now. Maybe he should have stayed at Wales but I guess he’d reached all he was ever going to manage. Might as well retire. Fixed that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Coach Posted April 29, 2018 Report Share Posted April 29, 2018 1 minute ago, Enter Sandman said: True. Saunders, whilst a crap manager, is however a very interesting and funny character. So I do quite like him. Coleman though, is just an arrogant ***** I have no respect for Saunders after telling a very disrespectful story on Brian Clough. He's one of the worst managers we've seen, so it gives him no right to be a pundit. Proper bell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BITW Posted April 29, 2018 Report Share Posted April 29, 2018 Not sure what he was supposed to do there in under 6 months given the state of the club! That said he was an awful choice to begin with. Poor manager. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
havanatopia Posted April 29, 2018 Report Share Posted April 29, 2018 How is it a strange decision for him to take the job? :- 1. Who knows what settlement was negotiated by Sunderland, on his behalf, leaving the Wales job? 2. Who knows what salary he was offered by Sunderland? 3. Who knows what settlement was offered when they sack him? All three may have amounted to mouth watering sums that he could not ignore for him or his family and nobody can blame him. And all of the above must have been significant because he knew he was on a hiding to hell and he also knew his reputation would be somewhat damaged, but not much, if he relegated Sunderland; after all, it was already a sinking ship. Had they stayed up he would have been a hero but his reputation hardly has a scar on it from their relegation. How anybody can come out and say, words to the effect, 'he was a fool to go there' suggests they knew exactly what his deal was and if not, they are the ones looking a little foolish here I would contend. Let me be clear, I am not saying anyone is foolish merely suggesting they might be if they do not know the facts. So please lets hear them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dolman Pragmatist Posted April 29, 2018 Report Share Posted April 29, 2018 1 hour ago, Red_Wizard said: Absolute shite manager who depended on Bale to get them where they were in the Euros. It was highly likely Sunderland would go down anyway. But with him it in charge it was guaranteed. No club should go near him if they had any sense. I love this! A manager who got one of the smallest countries in Europe to the semi-final of the Euros is ‘absolute shite’. That Alf Ramsey, he was rubbish too. If Geoff Hurst hadn’t scored a hat-trick in the World Cup Final, Germany would have won, you know. Same for Ferguson, all those titles he won, he’d never have done it if he hadn’t had good players. There’s a serious point here. When a team is doing well, all the credit seems to go to the players. When they’re doing badly, it’s the manager’s fault. Actually what Coleman did for Wales was astonishing. Picking up a squad that was absolutely devastated by the suicide of Gary Speed and converting them into such a highly-ranked side is one of the great feats of modern football management. Taking very average players like Robson-Kanu, Vokes and Hennessy as far as they did almost defies belief. Wales only had two top-quality players, Bale and Ramsey, yet they nearly got to a tournament final.. But to you he’s an ‘absolute shite manager’. I despair, I really do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Coach Posted April 29, 2018 Report Share Posted April 29, 2018 36 minutes ago, The Dolman Pragmatist said: I love this! A manager who got one of the smallest countries in Europe to the semi-final of the Euros is ‘absolute shite’. That Alf Ramsey, he was rubbish too. If Geoff Hurst hadn’t scored a hat-trick in the World Cup Final, Germany would have won, you know. Same for Ferguson, all those titles he won, he’d never have done it if he hadn’t had good players. There’s a serious point here. When a team is doing well, all the credit seems to go to the players. When they’re doing badly, it’s the manager’s fault. Actually what Coleman did for Wales was astonishing. Picking up a squad that was absolutely devastated by the suicide of Gary Speed and converting them into such a highly-ranked side is one of the great feats of modern football management. Taking very average players like Robson-Kanu, Vokes and Hennessy as far as they did almost defies belief. Wales only had two top-quality players, Bale and Ramsey, yet they nearly got to a tournament final.. But to you he’s an ‘absolute shite manager’. I despair, I really do. He relied on Bale. Just like all the Portuguese coaches rely on Ronaldo . Look at his club record. Case closed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dolman Pragmatist Posted April 29, 2018 Report Share Posted April 29, 2018 25 minutes ago, Red_Wizard said: He relied on Bale. Just like all the Portuguese coaches rely on Ronaldo . Look at his club record. Case closed. Case closed? You’ll have to do a little better than that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Coach Posted April 29, 2018 Report Share Posted April 29, 2018 10 minutes ago, The Dolman Pragmatist said: Case closed? You’ll have to do a little better than that! Case dismissed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redcityman Posted April 29, 2018 Report Share Posted April 29, 2018 1 hour ago, Red_Wizard said: I have no respect for Saunders after telling a very disrespectful story on Brian Clough. He's one of the worst managers we've seen, so it gives him no right to be a pundit. Proper bell Absolutely, a total fabrication of a story too, what a see you next tuesday saunders really is. https://www.theguardian.com/football/2016/sep/07/brian-clough-dean-saunders-nottingham-forest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E.G.Red Posted April 29, 2018 Report Share Posted April 29, 2018 Don't think Coleman really understood all the baggage that came with the Sunderland job. Could see him at Cardiff if & when Neil Warnock leaves Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Isewater Posted April 29, 2018 Report Share Posted April 29, 2018 Coleman, should be used to sacks . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BS4 on Tour... Posted April 29, 2018 Report Share Posted April 29, 2018 57 minutes ago, Red_Wizard said: He relied on Bale. Just like all the Portuguese coaches rely on Ronaldo . Look at his club record. Case closed. Coleman took Fulham to a 9th place finish in the premier league when they were favourites for relegation - no manager who does that is ‘shite’...case not closed... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanterne Rouge Posted April 29, 2018 Report Share Posted April 29, 2018 9 minutes ago, E.G.Red said: Don't think Coleman really understood all the baggage that came with the Sunderland job. Could see him at Cardiff if & when Neil Warnock leaves I don`t think he will go to either of the `big two` (in South Wales terms). He`s a hero to the country (or whatever it is) and if he went to either of them he would go from that to being hated by 50% of it overnight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unan Posted April 29, 2018 Report Share Posted April 29, 2018 Rumour is it’s a mutual decision and he’s off to Ipswich, Sunderland have been sold so it’s also part of their takeover. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E.G.Red Posted April 29, 2018 Report Share Posted April 29, 2018 17 minutes ago, Unan said: Rumour is it’s a mutual decision and he’s off to Ipswich, Sunderland have been sold so it’s also part of their takeover. Opportunity for Cole Skuse to work with Coleman, prior to returning to City? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malago Posted April 29, 2018 Report Share Posted April 29, 2018 3 hours ago, Red_Wizard said: I have no respect for Saunders after telling a very disrespectful story on Brian Clough. He's one of the worst managers we've seen, so it gives him no right to be a pundit. Proper bell Plus the shocking tackle that ended Paul Elliot’s career. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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