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Atmosphere - it is easy to explain...


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I'm sure this will get some interesting responses but for me it is fairly straight forward:

1) We only average a shade over a goal a game

2) We have fairly high possession stats but it's mostly in our own half with the ball going sideways or backwards, we are based around not conceding or trying to nick one-nil wins

3) We absolutely lack leaders, the players that wind the crowd up through tough tackles or where they demonstrate a real desire for the badge - anybody remember psycho and perhaps we are missing the likes of Flinty more than expected?

4) We don't have any players who appear capable of flying down the wing and who go past opposition players with ease, Jacki, Scotty types (Elliason for me is the closest at the moment to be fair but isn't quite there yet)

5) Finally, we hardly ever have shots on goal due to only ever playing one striker or as a result of having little quality in the final third - one shot on target this week against the side bottom of the league and we were at home??

This doesn't feel like rocket science, even when on the good run I very rarely left feeling at all entertained - surely the best form of defence is attack..?

And before you jump on me, I've followed City for decades so have been there through many lows, and yes, I have been a ST holder for most of that, and yes, I have already renewed :) 

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You are overlooking one major fact - an all seater stadium and the design/acoustics  of the SS where the ‘singers’  are located.

Put them in the Atyeo where the acoustics are better and a relatively small number of away fans can generate more sound outwards on onto the pitch.

Bugger all to do what’s being served up on the pitch. The atmosphere was far better before the AG revamp.

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7 minutes ago, Robbored said:

You are overlooking one major fact - an all seater stadium and the design/acoustics  of the SS where the ‘singers’  are located.

Put them in the Atyeo where the acoustics are better and a relatively small number of away fans can generate more sound outwards on onto the pitch.

Bugger all to do what’s being served up on the pitch. The atmosphere was far better before the AG revamp.

This is very strange comment indeed. Remember back when we had the Atyeo as our home end and people moaned that the acoustics were very poor!!

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4 minutes ago, jaydee=inspiration said:

This is very strange comment indeed. Remember back when we had the Atyeo as our home end and people moaned that the acoustics were very poor!!

But they’re not poor.

Why and how can a couple of hundred away fans be heard all around AG?  Better acoustics is why.

In the Dolman we barely hear the singers in the SS.

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26 minutes ago, Robbored said:

You are overlooking one major fact - an all seater stadium and the design/acoustics  of the SS where the ‘singers’  are located.

Put them in the Atyeo where the acoustics are better and a relatively small number of away fans can generate more sound outwards on onto the pitch.

Bugger all to do what’s being served up on the pitch. The atmosphere was far better before the AG revamp.

   Really?  Would have to say it’s got everything to do with what’s being served up on the pitch.............at least when you had Murray tearing down the wing terrorising the opposition left back it gave the fans something to get off their arses for.

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7 minutes ago, swanker said:

Cheer the team on? Not much to cheer about in all honesty. Last night I spent most of the game moaning a cussing Paterson who constantly fell over and gave the ball away. 

 

Did you cheer when City scored?  I did but like you I spent much of game moaning about Paterson...........:facepalm:

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27 minutes ago, Robbored said:

But they’re not poor.

Why and how can a couple of hundred away fans be heard all around AG?  Better acoustics is why.

In the Dolman we barely hear the singers in the SS.

But are those same away fans as loud when they are in their home ground? It has been mentioned many times how better the City away support is. It’s not all down to acoustics.

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57 minutes ago, Robbored said:

You are overlooking one major fact - an all seater stadium and the design/acoustics  of the SS where the ‘singers’  are located.

Put them in the Atyeo where the acoustics are better and a relatively small number of away fans can generate more sound outwards on onto the pitch.

Bugger all to do what’s being served up on the pitch. The atmosphere was far better before the AG revamp.

The "Atmosphere" is so poor because we are playing dreary football that is capable of sending us to sleep.

After a lifetime following City through a few (thick) good periods but mostly thin times, and renewing my ST on the first day, I am seriously wondering whether to call it a day.

I genuinely thought with the stadium rebuild, that we would make some progress. Yes we have, will reply many and in some ways, I will not argue with that point of view.

But with a team in that manages to have an average of two attempts at goal in most home games, the boredom and predictable slow, sideways passing, one striker and two or three players that are chosen every game yet contribute little or nothing, I wonder at my sanity.

How many others are having the same thoughts?

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8 minutes ago, windmillhillred said:

Crowd needs to turn up, both figuratively and literally. Be surprised if there was 17,000 there. For a team in the top six with ten games to go that's really, really poor. 

It was live on tv........that always affects attendances. Plus it was bloody cold......several guys who sit around me weren’t there last Probably watching it live on Sky in the pub or at home.

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1 hour ago, PFree said:

I'm sure this will get some interesting responses but for me it is fairly straight forward:

1) We only average a shade over a goal a game

2) We have fairly high possession stats but it's mostly in our own half with the ball going sideways or backwards, we are based around not conceding or trying to nick one-nil wins

3) We absolutely lack leaders, the players that wind the crowd up through tough tackles or where they demonstrate a real desire for the badge - anybody remember psycho and perhaps we are missing the likes of Flinty more than expected?

4) We don't have any players who appear capable of flying down the wing and who go past opposition players with ease, Jacki, Scotty types (Elliason for me is the closest at the moment to be fair but isn't quite there yet)

5) Finally, we hardly ever have shots on goal due to only ever playing one striker or as a result of having little quality in the final third - one shot on target this week against the side bottom of the league and we were at home??

This doesn't feel like rocket science, even when on the good run I very rarely left feeling at all entertained - surely the best form of defence is attack..?

And before you jump on me, I've followed City for decades so have been there through many lows, and yes, I have been a ST holder for most of that, and yes, I have already renewed :) 

Outrageous post. How dare you!!

( spot on, by the way!). 🤗

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6 minutes ago, Red94 said:

The atmosphere was very poor last night. At some points during the game only a hand full of people were signing in the singing section, which was a shame as a good atmosphere may have meant we performed a bit better on the pitch. 

... if they were signing then that would definitely have an impact on the noise... add to the visuals though. 

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18 minutes ago, windmillhillred said:

Crowd needs to turn up, both figuratively and literally. Be surprised if there was 17,000 there. For a team in the top six with ten games to go that's really, really poor. 

I was thinking more like 15/16k last night. It seemed busier for Bristol vs Gloucester and that was 16911 

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Amazed Robbored says its nothing to do with what happens on the pitch.

It's everything to do with what happens on the pitch. Exciting football , near missies , winning hard tackles and 50 /50 balls all get any crowd going.

Last night was typical of so many home games this season.  Very slow start , we didn't have a kick until 20 minutes in.Nothing to get excited about , opposition having  larger share of possession  and more goal attempts . We had hardly any shots on goal, lost almost every second ball  and our possession was sideways or backwards  with little or no attacking threat. 

Fans near me in the Lansdown were  dismayed and angry with the way we played and the lack of leadership from the manager who failed to make any changes until Ipswich has equalised. Our 3 subs were out warming up for at least 15 minutes before asked to get changed. Even when they were changed ,Lee  waited another 5 minutes before bringing them on.

 

 

 

 

 

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I have said on here countless times that LJ struggles to motivate players when heads are down.

This is a key attribute to successful man management. Last night was painful to watch as a City fan. Season ticket renewals/sales will be interesting.

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18 minutes ago, Marlborough Red said:

Amazed Robbored says its nothing to do with what happens on the pitch.

It's everything to do with what happens on the pitch. Exciting football , near missies , winning hard tackles and 50 /50 balls all get any crowd going.

Last night was typical of so many home games this season.  Very slow start , we didn't have a kick until 20 minutes in.Nothing to get excited about , opposition having  larger share of possession  and more goal attempts . We had hardly any shots on goal, lost almost every second ball  and our possession was sideways or backwards  with little or no attacking 

Remind me where we are in the Championship table?

Remind me when it was City we’re on an unbeaten run?         :cool2:

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5 minutes ago, The Horse With No Name said:

I've spent most of the season moaning about Paterson 

As we all have.

Oddly enough when Palmer started ahead of Pato recently most of us were delighted but even more delighted at the start of the second half when Pato replaced Palmer..........:dunno:

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1 hour ago, Robbored said:

It was live on tv........that always affects attendances. Plus it was bloody cold......several guys who sit around me weren’t there last Probably watching it live on Sky in the pub or at home.

add in the fact its almost impossible to park anywhere I know blokes that have drove to ag and give up and gone home loads of times.....

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I'd love to know how many fans go to 'Support' City, or watch City play.

I go to watch City play...I support them with my attendance and money, but I'm not a shouter, chanter or singer.

Tbh...most people I know who go are like me, and most who sit around me are the same. We watch, chat and applaud...sometime 'encourage' or moan. But it's all done in low tones.

Now if you go as a 'Supporter' who loves to sing and chant whilst watching, this for me is a different scenario.

It's a chicken and egg scenario between vocal supporter and team.

We all want the team to turn up from the first minute...do the vocal supporters turn up from the first minute? Or do they just react?

From a 'watcher'...it seems to me, the majority of 'singers' are reactionary and most vocal when we are winning.

Doesn't it need to be more so when we are losing or under the Kosh? Encouraging the players to react positively?

Surely we expect the tem to turn up every week...but do we expect the 'vocalists' to turn up every week?

From a watchers point of view it's an interesting scenario.

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