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8 hours ago, Red_Alligator said:

I see they're currently running a thread titled "Why we will never be successful" - methinks they may be on to something there. Plenty of mileage in that one.

That's a little bit confusing. 

I'm sure we were told that their foray in to non league football was the best thing that ever happened to them and the resulting years have seen unparalleled success..! 

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1 hour ago, Isawjonshaw said:

brilliant

9 hours ago, Red_Alligator said:

I see they're currently running a thread titled "Why we will never be successful" - methinks they may be on to something there. Plenty of mileage in that one.

I just had a look at it and disappointingly, it’s a statement rather than a question. The OP is stating that it’s because they sell their best players but don’t reinvest the money, seemingly oblivious to the fact that they are losing money hand over fist even when they have punters through the door.

It’s a quite depressing thread full of sensible answers with only a couple of “gifts” for us such as the guy who says he is also a Manchester United fan (never understood how that works) and the usual fantasist who thinks they are a big club with a huge fan base.

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9 hours ago, Red_Alligator said:

I see they're currently running a thread titled "Why we will never be successful" - methinks they may be on to something there. Plenty of mileage in that one.

One guy on that thread wants to get back to the days when they were arch rivals with Aston Villa!?!

Another, slightly more realistic, one has his sights firmly set on being like Doncaster United or Rotherham

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Just now, richwwtk said:

One guy on that thread wants to get back to the days when they were arch rivals with Aston Villa!?!

Another, slightly more realistic, one has his sights firmly set on being like Doncaster United or Rotherham

I bet they crave the days when they were arch rivals to...... US..! 

In something other than location alone. 

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6 minutes ago, richwwtk said:

One guy on that thread wants to get back to the days when they were arch rivals with Aston Villa!?!

Another, slightly more realistic, one has his sights firmly set on being like Doncaster United or Rotherham

they probably were rivals with Villa for a brief period....Villa climbed out of Division 3 in the 70's on their way to a European Cup win in the early 80's

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1 minute ago, Sweeneys Penalties said:

they probably were rivals with Villa for a brief period....Villa climbed out of Division 3 in the 70's on their way to a European Cup win in the early 80's

The rivalry only lasted one season. It was 50/50. Villa had half the tote end.

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12 minutes ago, Sweeneys Penalties said:

they probably were rivals with Villa for a brief period....Villa climbed out of Division 3 in the 70's on their way to a European Cup win in the early 80's

Yes, but you are forgetting that Villas European success was all down to those 2 fixtures against Rovers and for than, they will always hold them dear, as an intrinsic part of the formation of their recent history. 

I fact, if you watch back over their European Cup final, as they lift the trophy aloft, you can just about make out their captain dedicating their triumph to Bristol Rovers. 

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5 minutes ago, Bar BS3 said:

Yes, but you are forgetting that Villas European success was all down to those 2 fixtures against Rovers and for than, they will always hold them dear, as an intrinsic part of the formation of their recent history. 

I fact, if you watch back over their European Cup final, as they lift the trophy aloft, you can just about make out their captain dedicating their triumph to Bristol Rovers. 

Sad but true.

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After signing McCormick , the Chelsea ‘ wonder kid ‘ here is a recap from his time at Shrewsbury.

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Wayne8513 HRS AGO

More research and balance needed.

"hardly saw anything of McCormick, like Colkett from the year before I guess the non competitive nature of life at the Chelsea Under 21’s has not prepared him for real football"

"Showed flashes of brilliance in his first game and looked like he could be an asset. The games after that he put in some terrible performances, he couldn’t do anything right"

"The kid is probably great showing off juggling a ball in a park but can't tackle or pass when the pressure is on"

Coming for us .

 

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2 hours ago, Bar BS3 said:

That's a little bit confusing. 

I'm sure we were told that their foray in to non league football was the best thing that ever happened to them and the resulting years have seen unparalleled success..! 

Depends which way you look at it. 

If I were to say to you that a non-league club who is struggling financially and has a poor Infastructure, has managed to get themselves a few promotions in the last 5 years and are now plying their trade in League 1, then you would say that they have been a relatively successful club wouldn't you?

NLBR - Non League Bristol Rovers. Punching above their weight since 2016.

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11 hours ago, Sweeneys Penalties said:

they probably were rivals with Villa for a brief period....Villa climbed out of Division 3 in the 70's on their way to a European Cup win in the early 80's

So basically, the full and entire extent of their ambition is to play in the third division? Jesus wept.

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2 hours ago, Seneca the Younger said:

Success for me would be playing in the same division as the S@@t and doing the double over them! Preferebly in a nice new ground with a Bristol born lad scoring the winner.

How cute that they see getting the chance to play us as ‘success’.
 

If that doesn’t demonstrate how far behind us they’ve fallen in the last couple of decades then I don’t know what does?
No wonder we just laugh at them these days.

 

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4 hours ago, Seneca the Younger said:

Success for me would be playing in the same division as the S@@t and doing the double over them! Preferebly in a nice new ground with a Bristol born lad scoring the winner.

 

1 hour ago, Peter O Hanraha-hanrahan said:

How cute that they see getting the chance to play us as ‘success’.
 

If that doesn’t demonstrate how far behind us they’ve fallen in the last couple of decades then I don’t know what does?
No wonder we just laugh at them these days.

 

The most telling thing about that statement is that they'd see it as "success" if that were to happen in league one, due to our failure..! 

 

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30 minutes ago, Bar BS3 said:

 

The most telling thing about that statement is that they'd see it as "success" if that were to happen in league one, due to our failure..! 

 

and Ladies and Gentlemen, that is our Gaseous Friends.....always (in my lifetime, and I'm 58 now) they've always have hated us more than loved their own team. Odd bunch...

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Success in their eyes would be erecting a new tent, importing a bus stop and calling it a stand, adding row M to it, replacing the portaloos with a 21st century solution and finding some unexpired crisps and Fantas to sell to their dwindling fanbase.

In truth, survival is about as much as they can hope for as things stand, though Ben Garner seems to be doing as much as he can to ensure their speedy demise.

 

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Under Rishi Sunak new scheme at the Memorial Ground;

You give the man on disabled gate £10, he gives you back £3.33, he keeps £3.33, and then lets you in. 

When inside you find out that no spectators are allowed in and so you have to leave. You ask the nice man for your tenner back and he says go **** yourself. 

You realise that he actually kept £6.67 and you've been taken for a mug.

Get home to listen to the boyz in blue lose 2-0

 

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On 22/09/2020 at 22:43, Red_Alligator said:

I see they're currently running a thread titled "Why we will never be successful" - methinks they may be on to something there. Plenty of mileage in that one.

Are they seriously asking that question "Why we will never be successful" and nobody from the dwindling blue few can give an  answer that doesn't involve dribbling.

I mean, it's not like it's a difficult question, is it.

 

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12 hours ago, Swede said:

Are they seriously asking that question "Why we will never be successful" and nobody from the dwindling blue few can give an  answer that doesn't involve dribbling.

I mean, it's not like it's a difficult question, is it.

 

The answer is the same as it has been for the last 100 years or more. No money, no fans and no ambition. Some things never change.

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There is a big difference between us and the gas HAVING to rent to survive. They sold eastville because they were skint and ended up renting it . They rented Bath because they could'nt afford the rent increase at eastville. They left Bath to share then take over the Memorial Ground(thanks to dodgy board member) They pay rent to the fake sheik because he owns the ground as security till he builds houses on it.

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On 24/09/2020 at 07:19, 77 punk said:

"hate will make you blind "  that sums up rovers fans

It's more the incessant stroking themselves.

PS whoever put "Walking" in the swear filter, please undo it or just swap it for a starred version.

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On 23/09/2020 at 17:03, Banned User said:

Success for me would be playing in the same division as the S@@t and doing the double over them! Preferebly in a nice new ground with a Bristol born lad scoring the winner.

Sorry; life is full of disappoitments.

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Yes I have heard this too. I remember a kid at my primary school doing it, and that was in  the 1980s when things between fans were already toxic. 
 

But it must have been common in the days before getting to away games was feasible. 
 

I’m intrigued to know how people who did this chose which side to support in a derby match. 

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Yep, seems to have been pretty common “back in the day”.

I’m glad I got in to football at the time Rovers were in Bath, as I grew north of the river. My dad is an Argyle fan, so just took me to any team that was local. Could well have ended up on the other side of the fence if Rovers had still been playing in Bristol then.

Jeez, I’m off for a wash, I feel dirty.

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46 minutes ago, Matthew me said:

Joking aside, were my family unique or was that more common place when football was the equivalent of £2 a ticket?

I can remember paying £2.50 to stand on the East End in 1990ish.

Open end was £3.00 for some reason?

If I remember the atmosphere inside football grounds at that time correctly, I imagine there weren’t too many people visiting Ashton Gate one week and then going to Trumpton the following week unless your name is Roger Malone.

I believe it used to be a reasonably common occurrence in the 50’s and 60’s. Then we got promoted to the top flight in the 70s and the ‘Gas’ who would watch us one week and their own shower the next suddenly forgot where Eastville was.

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9 hours ago, Matthew me said:

Before my time, but my parents and grandparents often told me how they watched city one week and the gas the next. Apparently lots of people did it. 

Joking aside, were my family unique or was that more common place when football was the equivalent of £2 a ticket?

I can't imagine any circumstance in modern football where that would happen. 

Perhaps the tribal rivalry wasn't as intense back then?

My Dad did that and actually met my mum at a Rovers match when City’s away game was called off him and his mates went to watch Rovers, would have been early/mid 70’s as I’m 41

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I used to occasionally watch Rovers when I was at school in the 60s. Living closer to Eastville than Ashton Gate  it was relatively easy to get there (children used to actually walk long distances to places in those days). A lot of things were different including a lack of live football on TV and hardly any highlights. So if you wanted to watch a match when the team you supported wasn’t playing you had to go to watch another team. There was rivalry between the two sets of supporters then, but not the hatred you get now, so it didn’t seem strange for City supporters to occasionally watch Rovers and vice versa. Of course, when I went to Eastville I always supported the opposition 

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10 hours ago, Matthew me said:

Before my time, but my parents and grandparents often told me how they watched city one week and the gas the next. Apparently lots of people did it. 

Joking aside, were my family unique or was that more common place when football was the equivalent of £2 a ticket?

I can't imagine any circumstance in modern football where that would happen. 

Perhaps the tribal rivalry wasn't as intense back then?

The shared experience of the war years produced a lot of social cohesion that persisted probably into the sixties. The pathe news footage of Rovers v City games in the fifties doesn’t seem to show any fan segregation and games passed without trouble. I remember speaking to some people at Eastville who watched Rovers one week and City the next, something I can’t imagine doing.

While rivalry/banter between teams is part of being a football fan, the illogical vitriol that can be found on any of the football forums, towards people who enjoy the same sport and come from the same city, I have to say I find rather saddening.

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1 hour ago, pongo88 said:

I used to occasionally watch Rovers when I was at school in the 60s. Living closer to Eastville than Ashton Gate  it was relatively easy to get there (children used to actually walk long distances to places in those days). A lot of things were different including a lack of live football on TV and hardly any highlights. So if you wanted to watch a match when the team you supported wasn’t playing you had to go to watch another team. There was rivalry between the two sets of supporters then, but not the hatred you get now, so it didn’t seem strange for City supporters to occasionally watch Rovers and vice versa. Of course, when I went to Eastville I always supported the opposition 

Just to confirm other posters my mum and dad used to watch both team right through the 50's, but were always City first. You have to remember that travelling away was more of a one off special than an every week event. 

When I started going to watch City in the mid sixties, if we weren't home we would go to the reserves games, Rovers if they played anyone of note (I remember games against Chelsea, Southampton and Sunderland) or Bath City. My mother was disabled so we rarely travelled away and if we did the furthest I think we went was Birmingham.

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11 hours ago, Matthew me said:

Before my time, but my parents and grandparents often told me how they watched city one week and the gas the next. Apparently lots of people did it. 

Joking aside, were my family unique or was that more common place when football was the equivalent of £2 a ticket?

I can't imagine any circumstance in modern football where that would happen. 

Perhaps the tribal rivalry wasn't as intense back then?

Quite a common occurrence then..

My father was what you might call "open minded" and of course at Ashton to watch his reds with me one week,,,the next we'd be at eastville meeting his rovers supporting pal - a great guy,,won an MM in WW2....a very unassuming man as such people often are..

Seemed a normal thing for us to do at the time..very happy memories.

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1 hour ago, Matthew me said:

Amazing isn't it. Hard to imagine you could watch both teams. But it looks like plenty of people did!

The thing is in the 70’s there were no games on Tv in the pub to watch or anything like that, so if you wanted to watch football and your team was not playing then it was the logical thing to do, from speaking to my Dad about it He was always a City fan but also a fan of football

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46 minutes ago, Lanterne Rouge said:

It`s the mighty Doncaster United away for them today I believe.

Yes it is. Even despite the lack of attendance, I'm sure they've produced a lovely crystal vase to present to the match sponsors. 

"Doncaster Rovers Vs Bristol Albion" 

It's such a nice touch...! 

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12 hours ago, Matthew me said:

Before my time, but my parents and grandparents often told me how they watched city one week and the gas the next. Apparently lots of people did it. 

Joking aside, were my family unique or was that more common place when football was the equivalent of £2 a ticket?

I can't imagine any circumstance in modern football where that would happen. 

Perhaps the tribal rivalry wasn't as intense back then?

Christ!

If any of my family had done this no matter what generation, they would have been disowned and ridiculed forever!

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12 hours ago, Matthew me said:

Before my time, but my parents and grandparents often told me how they watched city one week and the gas the next. Apparently lots of people did it. 

Joking aside, were my family unique or was that more common place when football was the equivalent of £2 a ticket?

I can't imagine any circumstance in modern football where that would happen. 

Perhaps the tribal rivalry wasn't as intense back then?

My dad and his brothers did it in the late 1940’s early 50’s until one day when city were away my grandad was ready to take his boys to eastville , when my dad said to him . I don’t want to go to rovers anymore , city’s my team ?

How lucky was I . If he’d gone the other way , I’d be a bitter sand twisted sag now  

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My first City game was at Eastville when our Cubs leader (a gashead, though the term hadn't been invented then, let alone adopted by the masochistic oddbods) took us along to a Glos. Cup Final. Looking back undoubtedly with the sinister aim of indoctrinating us all to become Rovers' supporters. Fortunately I took an immediate dislike to the look of Rovers' vile shirts and their even more putrid club song, City won handsomely, and I departed Eastville that night as a new City supporter - much to the chagrin of the failed gas brainwasher.

Went to Eastville a few times to watch games in the early 70's - Man.Utd, Watney Cup Final, Southampton and Ipswich in the Cup - but certainly not to support Rovers!

Also v. West Ham when a City away game was called off last minute and we were already assembled to go.

Never wished them anything but a crushing defeat, then and since.

Have to say I wouldn't dream of going anywhere near their current pit now unless City were about to give them a well deserved thrashing.

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7 minutes ago, Nogbad the Bad said:

My first City game was at Eastville when our scout master (a gashead, though the term hadn't been invented then, let alone adopted by the masochistic oddbods) took us along to a Glos. Cup Final. Looking back undoubtedly with the sinister aim of indoctrinating us all to become Rovers' supporters. Fortunately I took an immediate dislike to the look of Rovers' vile shirts and their even more putrid club song, City won handsomely, and I departed Eastville that night as a new City supporter - much to the chagrin of the failed gas brainwasher.

Went to Eastville a few times to watch games in the early 70's - Man.Utd, Watney Cup Final, Southampton and Ipswich in the Cup - but certainly not to support Rovers!

Also v. West Ham when a City away game was called off last minute and we were already assembled to go.

Never wished them anything but a crushing defeat, then and since.

Have to say I wouldn't dream of going anywhere near their current pit now unless City were about to give them a well deserved thrashing.

After that lot sold Gary mabbutt to spurs , they arranged a friendly with the fewers as part of the deal . The junior football club I played for (Somerdale wanderers) we’re given free tickets , thankfully In the muller rd end. Me & a mate noticed the gate was unlocked and walked across the dog track, sat right behind the net and started chatting to Ray Clemence ?

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12 hours ago, Matthew me said:

Before my time, but my parents and grandparents often told me how they watched city one week and the gas the next. Apparently lots of people did it. 

Joking aside, were my family unique or was that more common place when football was the equivalent of £2 a ticket?

I can't imagine any circumstance in modern football where that would happen. 

Perhaps the tribal rivalry wasn't as intense back then?

As others have said, it was commonplace before (impossible to believe now, yes !)

My late father always took an interest in the 15ers results.

We would watch that crappy teleprinter thing on BBC1 where the results would come in. Always looking for the City result first of course.

"City won !" he would shout. This would then be followed by a "Oh, the Rovers won as well !". That outcome always made him happiest.

"But Dad," I would reply, "We want the Rovers to lose !"

(I never did tell him about the goings on at my primary school where we reds were in the minority, and why I despised the sags).

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For a very brief time I myself watched City and Rovers alternately. When I was a young lad in the mid-70s my mate's old man, who just liked to watch football and was not at all partisan, started taking us to whichever Bristol side was at home each Saturday.

For me at the time this was quite an eye-opener. Even then The Gap was huge and obvious. Everything about City was far superior, the quality of the football, the stadium, the size of the crowds, the atmosphere.

Fair to say my colours were nailed to the mast almost immediately, and within a few weeks I started becoming strangely 'unavailable' when Rovers were at home. Correct decision made; a life of derision and inferiority averted :city: 

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I can recall back in the mid 80s and a girl I was going out with at the time had the unfortunate disposition that her dad was a staunch gas head, her sister was married to a Walsall fan and they were playing at Eastville in a league game and invited me down with them knowing I was city through and through

Having stood in the run down inclosure listening to them moan and berate their players and watching what was a dire game end up 0-0 I said at the end to my girlfriends dad. That was s**t and why I am red through & through 

About 2 months later I dumped her and put it down as a bullet dodged ?

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16 hours ago, Matthew me said:

Before my time, but my parents and grandparents often told me how they watched city one week and the gas the next. Apparently lots of people did it. 

Joking aside, were my family unique or was that more common place when football was the equivalent of £2 a ticket?

I can't imagine any circumstance in modern football where that would happen. 

Perhaps the tribal rivalry wasn't as intense back then?

Same for me, my Dad used to do the same in the 50s and 60s, but luckily for me my Mums Dad steered me towards City :laugh:

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16 hours ago, Matthew me said:

My word.... £2.50!

It's amazing how prices have increased about inflation. 

Arsenal being £90. A pound a minute for a game of football 

we used to pay 50 p to watch from the school boys enclosure to watch top flight football

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